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Hi,

I would like to learn more about Eastern Catholicism. Are there any oneline resources or books I can get to sort it out? I hear so much talk I’d like to see how others are worshipping. In our community we have:

Roman Catholic
Eastern Catholic
Eastern Orthodox
Orthodox
Byzantine Catholic

I am wondering would I be allowed to take communion (I’m Roman Catholic) if I visited? I’d love to experience different forms of worship. I visited the Byzantine Catholic Church and totally loved it. I’m majorly into icons and their church was breathtaking. Communion was different for me but everyone was very friendly.

Thanks for any help,

Lorrie
 
Irishgal49 said:
In our community we have:

Roman Catholic
Eastern Catholic
Eastern Orthodox
Orthodox
Byzantine Catholic
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I’m not sure what “Eastern Catholic” means here (since “Byzantine Catholic” is noted separately), but depending on just where in Michigan, there might also be Maronite and Chaldean parishes available.
Irishgal49 said:
I am wondering would I be allowed to take communion (I’m Roman Catholic) if I visited?
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Yes.
 
Start with *The Orthodox Church *and The Orthodox Way by Timothy Ware (he also goes by his name in religion Kallistos).

In the mean time look up online texts and videos of their liturgies and peruse the Wikipedia and Catholic Encyclopedia articles on the subject.

p.s. If you visit an eastern church one Sunday, quietly “borrow” a liturgical manual if they have them in the pews or by the door, study it during the intervening week to get a feel for how their liturgies work, then return it the next Sunday on your next visit. (See how this gives you 2 visits plus an in-depth introduction?)
 
Irishgal49 said:
Hi,

I would like to learn more about Eastern Catholicism. Are there any oneline resources or books I can get to sort it out? I hear so much talk I’d like to see how others are worshipping. In our community we have:

Roman Catholic
Eastern Catholic
Eastern Orthodox
Orthodox
Byzantine Catholic

I am wondering would I be allowed to take communion (I’m Roman Catholic) if I visited? I’d love to experience different forms of worship. I visited the Byzantine Catholic Church and totally loved it. I’m majorly into icons and their church was breathtaking. Communion was different for me but everyone was very friendly.

Thanks for any help,

Lorrie
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You can go to Communion in the Greek/Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Churches.🙂
Probably not Orthodox though, because they generally have rules against that.
 
malphono said:
I’m not sure what “Eastern Catholic” means here (since “Byzantine Catholic” is noted separately), but depending on just where in Michigan, there might also be Maronite and Chaldean parishes available.

Yes.
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It very much depends on where in Michigan. In southeastern Michigan you can find the Maronite Chaldean and probably others as well as the Byzantine. Once you get out of that area there is really nothing north or west of Bay City with the exception of a Ukrainian Catholic parish in Grand Rapids. I am in northwestern Michigan and so I know this for a fact. I notice Irish is in Central Michigan so I am just curious as to where she attended the Byzantine Catholic Liturgy.
 
kitkatty said:
It very much depends on where in Michigan. In southeastern Michigan you can find the Maronite Chaldean and probably others as well as the Byzantine. Once you get out of that area there is really nothing north or west of Bay City with the exception of a Ukrainian Catholic parish in Grand Rapids. I am in northwestern Michigan and so I know this for a fact. I notice Irish is in Central Michigan so I am just curious as to where she attended the Byzantine Catholic Liturgy.
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Flint Michigan. We have a Byzantine Church here in Flint.
 
Irishgal49 said:
Flint Michigan. We have a Byzantine Church here in Flint.
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You can also check out Sacred Heart Byzantine Catholic Church in Livonia. It shouldn’t be too far from you. Both the priest and the deacon at that parish are friends of mine. 😃

The Maronite priests in Flint are wonderful. Some of them used to come out to Ann Arbor to celebrate daily (Roman) Mass and hear confessions at Domino’s Farms. Just being around them was very formative for me. 👍
 
Phillip_Rolfes said:
You can also check out Sacred Heart Byzantine Catholic Church in Livonia. It shouldn’t be too far from you. Both the priest and the deacon at that parish are friends of mine. 😃

The Maronite priests in Flint are wonderful. Some of them used to come out to Ann Arbor to celebrate daily (Roman) Mass and hear confessions at Domino’s Farms. Just being around them was very formative for me. 👍
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I’m jealous. The closest Maronite parish for me is 4+ hours away. Needless to say I’ve only been there once. I’m blessed to have many EO parishes, an OO parish, many Roman Catholic, and even a Ruthenian Catholic parish all within a short drive. I pray someday there will be a closer Maronite parish…guess I’m greedy.
 
Please do** not** attempt to receive Communion in an Orthodox Church , by all means ask the Priest beforehand if you may receive Antidoron this is blessed bread - not Consecrated ] at the end - this is permitted but it’s regarded as polite to ask first - a few Orthodox Churches don’t permit it , most do.
 
rciadan said:
If you ask, they will most likely allow it if your interest appears genuine. The parish I went to did.
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Yes, but … there is a 14.3% chance they will say no. (Remember that Star Trek episode?)
 
Rainaldo said:
Start with *The Orthodox Church *and The Orthodox Way by Timothy Ware (he also goes by his name in religion Kallistos).

In the mean time look up online texts and videos of their liturgies and peruse the Wikipedia and Catholic Encyclopedia articles on the subject.

p.s. If you visit an eastern church one Sunday, quietly “borrow” a liturgical manual if they have them in the pews or by the door, study it during the intervening week to get a feel for how their liturgies work, then return it the next Sunday on your next visit. (See how this gives you 2 visits plus an in-depth introduction?)
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Thanks I will check out those books!
 
Rainaldo said:
p.s. If you visit an eastern church one Sunday, quietly “borrow” a liturgical manual if they have them in the pews or by the door, study it during the intervening week to get a feel for how their liturgies work, then return it the next Sunday on your next visit. (See how this gives you 2 visits plus an in-depth introduction?)
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Now I understand where our books go, even with labels on them “For use during Liturgy. Please return.” We had about a dozen copies and that dropped to 3 before we recently ordered more. No pews. We have copies of the The Divine Liturgy: An Abridged Text for Students near the candles and prosphora. My own experience is when people do choose to pick one up and take it into Liturgy they have their eyes down on the text almost the whole time and miss what is going on around them. So I’m glad your suggestion is not using it during the Liturgy but studying it outside of Liturgy.
 
Phillip_Rolfes said:
You can also check out Sacred Heart Byzantine Catholic Church in Livonia.
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A great church!

You could also check out their sister parish, St. Basil the Great in Sterling Heights. They celebrate their 50th anniversary the weekend after Mother’s Day (19th & 20th), and it would be a particularly nice time to visit.

The “mother church” in metro-Detroit, St. Nicholas, recently relocated to Clinton Twp., which is a closer drive that either St. Basil’s or Sacred Heart from Flint.
 
5Loaves said:
Now I understand where our books go, even with labels on them “For use during Liturgy. Please return.” We had about a dozen copies and that dropped to 3 before we recently ordered more. No pews. We have copies of the The Divine Liturgy: An Abridged Text for Students near the candles and prosphora. My own experience is when people do choose to pick one up and take it into Liturgy they have their eyes down on the text almost the whole time and miss what is going on around them. So I’m glad your suggestion is not using it during the Liturgy but studying it outside of Liturgy.
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Aha! I thought they disappeared into the sock wormhole behind the clothes dryer.

I’m a Latin-rite Extraordinary Former and they way our liturgy is set up - especially low mass - my head is in the missal pretty much the whole time, but it works for us, because we already know what’s going on up front, and besides there isn’t anything to see anyway, and low mass is so low-key you’d think it was several clerics up front getting ready for something while the congregation waits quietly for something to begin … and then nothing begins, and everybody disperses. “What was that all about?” “Um, that was low mass.”

But that’s to an outsider. My heart is right up there contemplating the same things at the same time as the ministers and the people. And I feel like slowing down and thinking through the collects, or reading the saint-of-the-day’s bio, or just set the missal down and just watch, I can, because … time works differently in the EF.

That’s why we have bells punctuating the canon, so that time doesn’t actually stop.
 
ByzCathCantor said:
A great church!

You could also check out their sister parish, St. Basil the Great in Sterling Heights. They celebrate their 50th anniversary the weekend after Mother’s Day (19th & 20th), and it would be a particularly nice time to visit.

The “mother church” in metro-Detroit, St. Nicholas, recently relocated to Clinton Twp., which is a closer drive that either St. Basil’s or Sacred Heart from Flint.
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True a little bit closer but not all by that much taking into account she is coming from the Flint area anyhow. I am curious to see St.Nicholas in Clinton Twsp myself;.I have nieces living in the area and the next time I`m go down I just might attend Liturgy there.

Does anyone on here know anything about or has attended Divine Liturgy at St.George`s in Bay City?
 
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