Respect during Mass

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I am so glad to see this topic in the forums! There is constant annoyance and disruption at my parish. I have felt judgemental for being upset about this, but feel a little differently now after seeing everything that has been posted here and hearing the homily at Mass last evening. Father said we are not to judge others, but actions. So it seems we should certainly do something about wrong actions, but just not condemn the person doing them. I think I will talk to Father about this now or write him a letter. A letter might let me articulate myself better.

It seems there is always at least one cell phone going off every Saturday evening in the church, sometimes before mass begins, but still in the church. On one occasion it was the same phone going off three different times and Father did look annoyed although he didn’t say anything. At my previous parish, a woman in front of me actually answered her phone during communion and loudly held a short conversation! The really bad part is that she had been “correcting” her disruptive child the whole time for making noise. She was much louder herself saying “Shh!” a hundred times and answering a ringing cell phone. I also saw a man at another parish I was visiting answer his phone and step out the back door he was near… I don’t think I will keep silent if these things happen again.

My other major complaint is when people show up late to Mass and disrupt. They make noise and squeeze in the pews. Last night a woman sat her children but then stood in the aisle on the side up until the homily! A few people tried to tell her where there were seats and she just said, “Oh, no that’s ok.” She was making the woman next to me nervous and I found it to be very distracting. It is almost every week that it feels like a battle to my husband and I to just be able to go to Mass and worship without interruption. We almost always get shoved over and squeezed up against someone else, and then bothering them as well. I can’t participate in the mass at the beginning because I have to shift over so much. I think that sometimes the people are just visitors, but some are parishioners that commit the same offenses every week. In either case, common courtesy should be used.

I always think about attending Mass as a child in grade school. My parents, the sister that was my teacher, our priests, etc. would have NEVER tolerated this sort of behavior from us! I always do what I know I am supposed to do and try to lead by example, but I don’t think it gets across to anyone. I don’t really care if there are no rules about it, if you are late to Mass, you should not come in. I knew a priest that said he studied under a priest that would lock the door so if you were late you were not coming in. I also think it is very rude to leave before Mass has ended. I always wait until Father has completely left the aisle and the closing hymn is over. (BTW the woman in the aisle today, after all of that, left during communion. ???)

I am sorry for such a long post. This has just been bothering me so much. I could certainly say even more on the subject. Before I go I will say, I liked reading the reference to pajama mass above somewhere. My husband worded it best after a Mass on All Soul’s Day at a church we were just visiting before we chose our parish. There was a band, which was good, but inappropriate we felt for All Soul’s Day… And children gyrating around dancing, etc. as well as the adults… I really don’t like the “charismatic” thing. My husband said that rather than teach children to sit still and behave and learn that they are being taught it is okay to act out in church. (Ugh his actual words were much better than mine!) It’s a tragedy. I know that when we have children, they will be expected to act appropriately in church, as elsewhere.
 
I always turn off my cell phone before entering the sanctuary… but ONE time… apparently it turned back on in my pocket and… go figure… rang right in the middle of the consecration. 😊 I could have died. ugh…

I now leave it in the car. 😉
Yes, I have been terrified of that ever happening to me, especially since it annoys me so much when someone else does it. We live close enough to our parish that we walk and we almost always leave the cell phone at home.
 
Gone astray. Welcome back! Please do not allow a couple of parishioners who have made some poor decision sway you from your return.
We make general announcments at my Parish. “Good Morning, and welcome to the celebration of the Fifth Sunday in Lent. In respect to the Liturgy today lease ensure all cell phones and pagers are turned off. Please stand and joing in our opening hymn #…”
Then my Pastore will give the glare if anyone does not comply and their cell phone rings. I have a gift of a very reverent and respectful Pastore and Co-Pastor.
Speak with them, announce it in the bulletin. Make people aware of it. Introduce yourself to those speaking during Mass and ask them “Wasnt that a ‘great homily’?” They will understand what you really mean.
Even when Jesus gave his sermon that ’ It is easier for a camel to go through the head of a needle than a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God." Think about it he still did it respectfully.
Good luck and thank you for caring about your faith.
 
I always turn off my cell phone before entering the sanctuary… but ONE time… apparently it turned back on in my pocket and… go figure… rang right in the middle of the consecration. 😊 I could have died. ugh…

I now leave it in the car. 😉
One time I forgot to turn off my cell phone and it went off just before Mass started. I was mortified, but the woman sitting next to me said, ‘Don’t worry about it. Everyone’s phone goes off. No body cares.’

Can you believe that? I cared! Now I leave the phone in the car, just to be sure.
 
Lol I am sorry but as bad as all your stories are about the rudeness in Mass, they hold nothing compare to the Mass at my parish. 1)** it’s PACKED always.** 2) Late arrivals ALWAYS and they always come in through the front. 3) Always a LOUD crying baby 4) There is always someone sick around. 5) Parents don’t control their children, they are always playing or using vulgar language 6) Every Mass at my parish has at least one person who’s style of dress leaves very little to the imagination :eek: 7) Have seen people not eat the Sacred host, upon receiving it and eat it on the walk back 8)CELL Phones! Even after we give the announcement to shut them off before mass begins 9)Holding hands during the Lord’s prayer 10) People talk after taking communion and distract those in prayer and there are so much more. The last thing I saw was a girl next to me chewing gun and blowing bubbles with it :eek: I really just don’t get it!

What’s worse is that I can’t ever say anything because I am always told that I am judging and that I should be happy that these people are at mass. Even my parents have gotten upset at me when I’ve mention this. I don’t even talk to my priest after the way he reacted when I mention about the TLM.
hallelujah!!!
 
Human beings attend Mass, and human beings forget.

I’m a convert to Catholicism from evangelical Protestantism. My POV is that it’s worth anything to be near Jesus and receive Him in Holy Communion.

There’s an old Protestant hymn that I think Catholics would do well to learn:

Turn your eyes upon Jesus.
Look full in His wonderful face.
And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
In the light of His glory and grace.


Funny thing is, Protestants CAN’T “turn their eyes upon Jesus” the way Catholics can. The only way Protestants can “see” Jesus is in other Christians, and so they turn to other Christians in the pews next to them to “see” Jesus.

But Catholics CAN “turn their eyes upon Jesus.” Yet instead of doing so, they, like the Protestants, turn their eyes upon each other and of course, notice all the flaws and sins and failings of their fellow human beings.

This is wrong for many reasons. First of all, when Jesus is in the room, why would we look at each other? Second, Jesus Himself said that we need to take the log out of our own eye before we take the speck out of someone else’s eye.

As an ex-Protestant, I plead with you to ignore all the many things of this earth and just look at Jesus. He’s right there, in our Church, in the tabernacle! Can’t you see Him? What a miracle, to have Jesus right there with us in our midst. I don’t understand how anything or anyone can distract you when He is there! Just turn your eyes upon Him and you will see that the things of this earth, including cell phones and revealing outfits and screaming children and chattering families–all these things will grow very dim and hard to hear in the light of HIS Glory and Grace!

Maybe it’s a Protestant thing, this ability to ignore our surroundings and see only Jesus (that’s ANOTHER great Protestant hymn–“Jesus Only”). But I don’t believe that only I can do this. Surely those of you who have been born and raised with Jesus in your midst should be even better at shutting out the world and seeing only Him. You’ve had Him for so many years, and I’ve only just discovered that He’s really here with us on this earth.

Why not ask and then trust Jesus Himself to deal with those who you feel are failing to show Him proper respect in the Mass? He’s right there and He’s Lord and He’s fully capable of speaking to those who are dishonoring Him. He can choose to make use of His priest or deacon to correct those who are offensive to Him, or He can direct the Holy Spirit to move in the hearts of those who insist on taking the world into the Mass with them by bringing in cell phones and or wearing titillating outfits. We should mind our own eyes and keep them fixed on Jesus, not on our brothers and sisters in the Lord. And we should mind our own hearts and present them to Jesus, and pray only that our brothers and sisters will be holier than we are.
 
I’ve already mentioned people attending Mass while obviously suffering from colds and flu and then shaking hands with everyone. I carry hand sanitizer and I use it. They should stay home, IMHO.
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I know this wasn’t the main point of your post, but I feel compelled to comment here. Please, don’t assume the worst. Many people suffer from allergies. In my own case, I suffer from a chronic cough due to acid reflux. If I stayed home due to this cough, I would not have been able to attend Mass for the last 10 years. Just don’t always assume the worst.

Elizabeth
 
Is it wrong to read a prayer or the propers for the day on your iphone during mass? Certainly this is better than people reading the church newsletter or other profane materials. I wouldn’t do it but only because people would assume I am doing something frivelous.
 
Is it wrong to read a prayer or the propers for the day on your iphone during mass? Certainly this is better than people reading the church newsletter or other profane materials. I wouldn’t do it but only because people would assume I am doing something frivelous.
What is the fixation people have nowadays with those infernal devices? Can’t they live without them for an hour? :confused:

Anyway, as far as I’m concerned, the answer is yes. Anyone who wants to read the propers can get a Missal. Most OF parishes have them in pews. For the EF, lots of nice volumes available.
 
The only disagreement I have is crying babies. I feel very uncomfortable at Sunday Mass where I don’t hear at least one baby cry at least once; its a part of a Catholic Sunday Mass, at lest in my mind.
 
Philippines Church Society at present offer TV masses thereby making the sick and well as you have said, with colds and flu to stay home and instead watch the T Mass and take a communion in spirit, however to the fact that some are talking to the mass, well, yes its a somekind f disrespect for other people attending the mass Physically present. but what can we do,m if we invite them for a church community they may not give their time etc… so theres nothing we can do
 
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As I have mentioned in previous posts, I am a lapsed Catholic who has returned after quite a few years.

I’ve already mentioned people attending Mass while obviously suffering from colds and flu and then shaking hands with everyone. I carry hand sanitizer and I use it. They should stay home, IMHO.

Then there are people who have conversations during the entire Mass.

Last weekend was another first for me.

During Liturgy of the Eucharist, a man’s cell phone rang. Loudly. He answered it while leaving the church. He then stood in the vestibule with the cell phone on speaker and carried on a conversation which everyone could hear both sides of.

And it wasn’t an emergency but a social call. I know this since I could hear everything that was said.

Does this kind of thing happen often now? It was extremely distracting.
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Oh yes! I have seen it and heard it all during all my 39 years of life. I saw it as an altar server from ages 12-18 years old. However, I think it is worse today.No,I take that back,it is worse with the advent of the cell phone. Respect starts at home and especially by parents who are the primary teachers. Parish priests should also remind the congregation the importance of the Mass and how we must all show respect for the house of God and the Tabernacle.
 
As I have mentioned in previous posts, I am a lapsed Catholic who has returned after quite a few years.

I’ve already mentioned people attending Mass while obviously suffering from colds and flu and then shaking hands with everyone. I carry hand sanitizer and I use it. They should stay home, IMHO.

Then there are people who have conversations during the entire Mass.

Last weekend was another first for me.

During Liturgy of the Eucharist, a man’s cell phone rang. Loudly. He answered it while leaving the church. He then stood in the vestibule with the cell phone on speaker and carried on a conversation which everyone could hear both sides of.

And it wasn’t an emergency but a social call. I know this since I could hear everything that was said.

Does this kind of thing happen often now? It was extremely distracting.
There is always at lease one person each Sunday who didn’t turn their cell off and it rings during mass. Every once in a while there are people who talk during mass but that usually happens during the youth mass on Sunday evenings. It can be a bit annoying.

A little off subject. I was raised that a Rosary was not a piece of jewelry to be worn around your neck but but something sacred used for prayer. Am I the only one who gets offended when I see people wearing them as a necklace? 🤷
 
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