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aball1035
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I’m wondering what to say when homosexuals say (knowing I’m against gay marriage) “don’t push your beliefs on me! I’m not hurting you, so let me live how I like!”
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Cable
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Were you the one that brought it up? Just wondering
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georget
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I’d say, OK.
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PeterJohn
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It’s a simple self refuting statement.
When someone tells you not to push your morals on others, they are pushing that morality on you.
Also, due to anti discrimination laws, LGBT views on marriage equality, as well as homosexual sex Ed will be taught in schools, more and more. If you disagree, you may not be able to do much. And these morals will be pushed on you, and your children.
When someone tells you not to push your morals on others, they are pushing that morality on you.
Also, due to anti discrimination laws, LGBT views on marriage equality, as well as homosexual sex Ed will be taught in schools, more and more. If you disagree, you may not be able to do much. And these morals will be pushed on you, and your children.
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ccmnxc
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^^Beat me to the punch.
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IBombAtomically
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Having a difference of opinion on a moral issues doesn’t physically inhibit anyone else from doing anything. You are not imprisoning this person against their will to prevent them from acting on their inclinations, nor are you a member of the Supreme Court who will personally determine whether or not they can marry. Your point of view is, in reality, not impeding them in any way, so there’s no need to restrict you from having one.
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jonathan_hili
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Society always imposes its views on others through various means and, in the extreme case, by law and incarceration.
The question is: why should or shouldn’t view X be imposed upon someone?
The question is: why should or shouldn’t view X be imposed upon someone?
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CopticChristian
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Aball,
If someone says
I would say…let me ask you a few questions.
Do you believe that homosexuality is normal?
Do you believe that Same Sex Marriage is normal?
Do you believe Homosexual couples should have children?
Do you believe in God?
Now for simplicity let assume that you get yes/yes/yes/yes/ no perhaps yes…
Then I would say. Do you believe that these beliefs should be accepted and believed by all people…
If they say yes…then you disagree and express your contrary beliefs and say…while I understand that you have this belief, I do not, and I have the right to express those beliefs that are contrary to your beliefs with all the vehemence and fervor that you express yours…and if I believe that they are harmful to you and society I have the right to believe that…if you do not believe in God then I wish you did and I shal pray for you…
If they say no…then you say praise God…and express your beliefs…
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SamH
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Its like this, when people say stuff like “If you don;t like homosexual marriage don’t have one, or don’t like abortion don;t have one” I respond with “Don’t like slavery, don’t own one”. If you don’t like guns, don’t buy one".
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ahs
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You can remind them that being opposed to same-sex “marriage” is not necessarily only a religious view. It’s also for the good of society. The social arguments are just as strong, if not more so to non-Christians, as the moral/religious ones:
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estesbob
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I have just as much right to have my views incorporated into the law as they do.
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marymary1975
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I really like this answer, I am going to start using it
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Regular_Atheist
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Leave them alone, maybe? I suppose it depends whether or not it was you that approached them and brought up the subject. It depends on the context. Stereotypically, Christians in general do have a reputation for being pushy, self-righteous, and having little to no respect for other people’s beliefs. It could mean that you should lay off with the preaching slightly.
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fix
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You might ask when the gay agenda folks will stop imposing on the rest of us? TV, radio, newspapers, internet, movies, books, magazines, plays, you name it and the push to normalize homosexual conduct is every possible place it can be. Who protects us from the constant indoctrination?
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markomalley
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Homosexuality is aberrant. It is patently obvious from nature (not from religion, but from biology) that man is intended to have sex with woman and woman with man. Not man with man and woman with woman. If the latter was the intended norm, any species, including homo sapiens, would cease to exist.
Only a delusional person could say otherwise.
Because of the length of time it takes for the offspring of humans to reach physical and psychological maturity, coupled with the fact that human offspring are normally born in litters of one, it follows that human relationships are intended, by biology, to be long term…measured in decades rather than hours, days, weeks, months, or years.
It defies logic to say otherwise.
Humans secrete certain hormones as a consequence of sexual relations. Oxytocin is the primary example. Oxytocin has the effect of stimulating emotional trust and bonding (Oxytocin in females also is released in large quantities during childbirth and breastfeeding btw). This hormonal response of bonding indicates that exclusive bonding of the sexual partners and the female and the offspring are by biological design.
It is not religion saying this: it’s biology.
So from biology we can see that the norm is a male-female relationship, long term, and exclusive, resulting in offspring who are raised until full maturity.
Not religion. Biology.
Sadly, in our society, long term exclusive relationships are becoming the exception, as well. This degradation and the nonsensical re-affirmation of that degradation as being perfectly “normal” (e.g., single parenthood, promiscuity, and serial relationships) is not a good thing and is a violation of the natural law.
But, rather than trying to restore societal norms to be in concert with the natural law, we are trying to yet push it farther away from the natural law.
Only a delusional person could say otherwise.
Because of the length of time it takes for the offspring of humans to reach physical and psychological maturity, coupled with the fact that human offspring are normally born in litters of one, it follows that human relationships are intended, by biology, to be long term…measured in decades rather than hours, days, weeks, months, or years.
It defies logic to say otherwise.
Humans secrete certain hormones as a consequence of sexual relations. Oxytocin is the primary example. Oxytocin has the effect of stimulating emotional trust and bonding (Oxytocin in females also is released in large quantities during childbirth and breastfeeding btw). This hormonal response of bonding indicates that exclusive bonding of the sexual partners and the female and the offspring are by biological design.
It is not religion saying this: it’s biology.
So from biology we can see that the norm is a male-female relationship, long term, and exclusive, resulting in offspring who are raised until full maturity.
Not religion. Biology.
Sadly, in our society, long term exclusive relationships are becoming the exception, as well. This degradation and the nonsensical re-affirmation of that degradation as being perfectly “normal” (e.g., single parenthood, promiscuity, and serial relationships) is not a good thing and is a violation of the natural law.
But, rather than trying to restore societal norms to be in concert with the natural law, we are trying to yet push it farther away from the natural law.
I would use some version of the scientific argument above.
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Lana_Morgana
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It does sound the way that if it was in your power you would take away gays and lesbians own children they gave birth to \or participated in 'child making" process. “for their own sake”
Did i understand you correctly?
What does it mean “homosexuals shouldn’t have children”
You would take away children from these moms? mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lesbian-couple-show-off-quintuplets-in-australia-114670
Maybe its catholics that shouldn’t have children so as to not harm their critical thinking and perception of reality?
“god” or "gods’ is a matter of belief(and in regard to “normal” related to it)
Homosexuality is not. According to official science, medicine and ,what is more important, mother Nature itself (that has nothing to do with gods or your social construct “natural law”).
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Lana_Morgana
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Just as Nazis i suppose.No offense meant.
there are no sound arguments for that.
And all professional organization that deal with “the good of society” support same -sex unions at least for the sake of their own children that need to be socially protected.its catholics who wage war of families and children. Disgusting.
All people are equal and must have equal opportunities.
Have you even read declaration of human rights?
Catholcis have a place on TV and radios programes. On what ground you want to deny the same for this social group? because your god and you dont like them much? Well, guess what, they too might not like you much and who cares in a secular country what your god “thinks”?
Normalize?There is nothing to normalize. It is normal according to official stance of science and medicine. And according to mother Nature itself that prospers in diversity.
In other words you ar enot happy that truth and facts of reality are spread via TV. Well, poor you. it must be hard when the fantasy u’ve been lving all your life is confronted with reality.
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Publisher
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No one is imposing their views upon you. If you don’t believe in same sex marriage…don’t have one. If you want your religous views imposed on society…why can’t others? That’s the point…no one is imposing their views upon you…you have the right to accept or reject their views…you do not have the right to deny them their rights to determine the course of their lives because you have a religious issue with it.
Their marriage does not in any way effect the status of your marriage. No more than my views that “annulment” is in reality “Catholci divorce”…you say “No it is not.”…I’m ok with it…you don’t believe it is divorce. Just because I do…doesn’t change anything…it is my opinon…you have yours…we don’t have to agree…but you do not have the right to demand I accept your views of "annullment’…as I have no riight to demand my opinion on the matter be accepted by you.
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It does sound the way that if it was in your power you would take away gays and lesbians own children they gave birth to \or participated in 'child making" process. “for their own sake”
Did i understand you correctly?
What does it mean “homosexuals shouldn’t have children”
You would take away children from these moms? mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lesbian-couple-show-off-quintuplets-in-australia-114670
Maybe its catholics that shouldn’t have children so as to not harm their critical thinking and perception of reality?
“god” or "gods’ is a matter of belief(and in regard to “normal” related to it)
**Homosexuality is not. According to official science, medicine and ,what is more important, mother Nature itself (that has nothing to do with gods or your social construct “natural law”)./**QUOTE]
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Gay and lesbian couples can adopt and raise children…the children that “straight” biological moms and dads cast aside and no one wants…sounds like many religious people opposing same sex adoption are like an old dog who has a bone buried somewhere…he doesn’t want it…but he doesn’t want any other dog to have it either.
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Publisher
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:clapping:
Gay and lesbian couples can adopt and raise children…the children that “straight” biological moms and dads cast aside and no one wants…sounds like many religious people opposing same sex adoption are like an old dog who has a bone buried somewhere…he doesn’t want it…but he doesn’t want any other dog to have it either.
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