Responsible for spouse’s sexual sin? ...continuation

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We’ve been married for 17 years, 15 of which have been a total sexual missery since my wife gave birth to our first daughter 2 years into the marriage. Newly weds sex was fantastic, everything and more of what I expected I won the lotterywith her. After my daughter was born my wife entered a severe post partum depression and since then her hormones have been out of control, had been diagnosed for bipolar disorder other doctors just severe PMS, etc, she never follows through any treatment as she doesn’t like medications because of the possible side effects

I had cancer 3 times seven years into the marriage, radiation treatment got my foreskin severely burn and after surgery with severe scar tissue, having sex is vary painful as my skin does not expand anymore. I had my thyroid removed, diabetic, high blood pressure, cholesterol, one side effect of the medications is lost of libido. To say the least, I wish it was true. I love my wife very much and I desire her every day for the last 25 years since she was my girlfriend, I don’t know if I love her more than I desire her or viceverse.

For 15 years we have sex 1-3 times a month if lucky, 1 or two months had passed. She blames her horminal problem, and continues her life normal, I feel like a street dog begging for sex almost every day for 15 years. She spends hours cleaning, working, reading, hours praying as she is very devoted, but she is too tired for 10 minutes of intimacy, she says that needs sleep or simply silence, if I hug or simply place my hand on her she gets mad and then for the next few days it is my fault because I didn’t let her sleep.

I am tired of begging for sex to my wife, it is not life, 3 times this years she did it out of the obligation by the church to “take care” of her husband… it was absolutely pathetic, I could see her total desinteres, no reactions, no emotions, really not what I want. Every morning she wakes up like nothing is happening and we are happily married. We have two beautiful kids that I rather die than not living with them for the few years we have before starting their lives. Whe I get angry, she says that I don’t support nor understand her hormonal problem, maybe I’m selfish, but I had severe hormonal problems and still get aroused just by watching her on lingerie or touching her.

It is now 3:52am and I’m here venting to see if I find a clear solution, I don’t want to go back to a church that obligates my wife to have sex with me, just like a sex slave; but I refuse to continue to live this emotional and physical torture of wanting her so bad just to be rejected every time of every day, by my own wife.

I want to stay at my house for my children, but I refuse to beg for sex. Maybe a fake life pretending every day that this is normal as my wife does. I will pay for sex not to pest my wife. I’ll get my 10 minutes of attention whenever it starts to get painful from all the times I get aroused at home; she gets to sleep peacefully all she wants, and we can live like this until she finds whom she desires to have sex with or my children move out to college, whatever comes first.

Now, your comments.
 
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Good Morning My Brother,
Thank you for sharing a very personal part of your life with us. From man to man, I admire you for putting this out on a forum and may all your comments back be one of charitable uplifting hope. I have also experienced some of the same things. In 20 years now I have learned that the source of much of my suffering has originated from my own stories I make up in my head. Before life got better for wife and I, I really had to pull a lot of weeds from my own self first and throw out a lot of garbage that was bogging me down. It has taken many many visits to the adoration chapel and confession. It has taken many hours of reading and thinking about what it really means for me to be a married man. And had to learn also had to gain at least a little understanding of my wife as woman. I got into “Theology of the Body” and it has helped me very much. Straight talk, figure out what is spiritually jammed up within you first and work thru that with hope and assurance GOD is directing you to much greater understanding. Peace be with you and your family.
 
Straight talk, figure out what is spiritually jammed up within you first and work thru that with hope and assurance GOD is directing you to much greater understanding.
I agree with this. I would also say this has to be a two way thing. You should have some understanding for your wife. But she should also return the understanding and see your perspective. You may need to challenge her to do that in order to get past this situation.
 
Now, your comments.
The two of you need professional marital counseling. But I’m sure you already know that. Also if she’s diagnosed bipolar get into a support group for families who have mental illness in them.

If she won’t go to marital counseling with you, go alone.

You also need spiritual counseling from your priest, your troubles at home have turned into spiritual despair.
 

It is now 3:52am and I’m here venting to see if I find a clear solution, I don’t want to go back to a church that obligates my wife to have sex with me, just like a sex slave; but I refuse to continue to live this emotional and physical torture of wanting her so bad just to be rejected every time of every day, by my own wife.

… I will pay for sex not to pest my wife.
Psychology Today estimates that 15 to 20% of marriages are sexless. The estimate in the article is that about 25% truly both enjoy marital relations.

The church does not obligate couples to have marital relations like sex slaves, in fact such activity must be both procreative and unitive.

So you must know that to avoid sin means to develop temperance in conjugal chastity.

Catechism
2349 "People should cultivate [chastity] in the way that is suited to their state of life. Some profess virginity or consecrated celibacy which enables them to give themselves to God alone with an undivided heart in a remarkable manner. Others live in the way prescribed for all by the moral law, whether they are married or single."136 Married people are called to live conjugal chastity; others practice chastity in continence:
There are three forms of the virtue of chastity: the first is that of spouses, the second that of widows, and the third that of virgins. We do not praise any one of them to the exclusion of the others. . . . This is what makes for the richness of the discipline of the Church.137
 
Thank you very much for your words.

I know that I’m not even close to where I need to be spiritually, I’ve always been attached to my love for God, and have received countless blessings, including listening a live changing word which is cancer 3 times in a row. I know HE has a plan, but all I want is a simple married life and live in peace with my family without losing so much sleep and peace. I will read your recommendations, thank you for taking the time to share it.
 
Thank you for your words,

This is very complicated. We both have very strong personalities and both agree on saying that the other do not understand each other issues. My argument is that I least not only I recognize my health issues and work on them with medicine and keeping in mind that my thyroid issues made me very irritable and short fused and try to keep a leash on my response at every reaction; while she refused medicine treatments and just stick to the sentence that I don’t support her, I belive that 15 years with this issue and still love her and faithful says otherwise.
 
Thank you. IT IS a very lonely and frustrating issue, hence myself venting here.

I know she has issues, and it is frustrating that wvery specialist she visits has a different diagnostic
Psychologist says she is borderline bipolar, endocrinologys some say us its hormonal. Gynecologist say that she has a severe form of PMS, with the only common denominator that she doesn’t follow any of their treatments. Nonetheless I couldn’t love her and resent her more if I could, her mostly verbal agressive demeanor brings mine out as well and not always can keep it controlled.
 
In that case I would say try to talk to a Catholic marriage counselor…It sounds like you need outside help at this stage.
 
I do help, used to be the one who cook as well until I started to work on a job with no set end hours. I do the homework with my children. I spend endless hours listening to her investigations about her issues and mine and have conversations which always end in that I need to understand that even though she spends hours doing other staff not having sex is what I need to understand.

I also know that she purposely clens and do other stuff until I fall asleep, and then she enters.
 
But, do you do anything FUN together? I am not talking about investigating medical issues.

Do you go dancing? Go for a long drive? Go to a theater or museum? Go fishing? Whatever you guys did when you were dating for fun, do that again!
 
I do help, used to be the one who cook as well until I started to work on a job with no set end hours. I do the homework with my children. I spend endless hours listening to her investigations about her issues and mine and have conversations which always end in that I need to understand that even though she spends hours doing other staff not having sex is what I need to understand.

I also know that she purposely clens and do other stuff until I fall asleep, and then she enters.
If my husband begged for sex every day I’d do that too.

Good grief.

Try to do things for and with her for a month without ever insinuating you want sex. Even if you do want it. My guess is that you have broken her trust, patience and love by your daily insinuations.

The fact that you actually say that she spends endless hours doing other things when, by gosh darn it, she could just stop and have sex with you for 10 minutes explains a lot about your mindset.
 
The fact that you actually say that she spends endless hours doing other things when, by gosh darn it, she could just stop and have sex with you for 10 minutes explains a lot about your mindset.
I don’t think so. I’d be a bit upset too if my wife didn’t seem interested in sex for years.
 
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The fact that you actually say that she spends endless hours doing other things when, by gosh darn it, she could just stop and have sex with you for 10 minutes explains a lot about your mindset.
I don’t think so. I’d be a bit upset too if my wife didn’t seem interested in sex for years.
It’s a snake eating itself. How terrible would it feel if day after day, moment after moment you had someone scrutinizing your every move trying to find time to have sex with you? Even as a guy, you have to admit it’d feel tiresome and awkward. She has a spotlight on her 24/7. With that kind of pressure, it’s no wonder she doesn’t want sex. On the off chance she actually wants sex his hound-dog persistence is going to basically guarantee that he turns her off.
 
I agree with the idea of going to a marriage counselor together. This sounds like a very delicate problem that needs to be worked out. I also think taking some time away together might really help. It’s hard to not be on the same time clock. My husband and I sometimes have that problem. When I’m interested, he’s “cooling down” after a long day. By the time he gets around to it, I’m asleep. (I HATE getting woken up too, for pretty much anything! Even that.) You should try to make time to be emotionally intimate before you attempt to be sexually intimate. Whatever it is you like to do, preferably without the kids around. Spend time together. That is key!
 
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