Restoration to OT covenants?

[Anneg]

Hello, I am new to this forum and have a question. I have a friend who is very into “Restoration” theology. Lots of her theology is the same as a book by D. Thomas Lancaster called RESTORATION. Basically, she believes and this group teaches that we should obey all the Hebrew covenant including obeying dietary laws, keeping the Sabbath, circumcision, etc. I have big problems with that, but when I bring up the scriptures saying just don’t eat meat strangled or sacrificed to idols, she says, no, that I am taking the scriptures out of context. Can you help me with this issue? Thanks, & blessings, Anne

 

[savedsinner]

Hello, I am new to this forum and have a question. I have a friend who is very into “Restoration” theology. Lots of her theology is the same as a book by D. Thomas Lancaster called RESTORATION. Basically, she believes and this group teaches that we should obey all the Hebrew covenant including obeying dietary laws, keeping the Sabbath, circumcision, etc. I have big problems with that, but when I bring up the scriptures saying just don’t eat meat strangled or sacrificed to idols, she says, no, that I am taking the scriptures out of context. Can you help me with this issue? Thanks, & blessings, Anne

And they have read the New Testament?
Maybe their bible might have a few pages missing.
Especially the ones written by St. Paul.

Though they are probably “bible alone” Christians, I would recommend reading The Epistle of St. Ignatius of Antioch to the Magnesians
and
The Epistle of St. Ignatius to the Philadelphians

This clearly shows the early Christian teachings about all things “Judaism”.

Also this article might help explain things to your friend.
THE WORKS OF THE LAW
James Akin

 

[FightingFat]

The Law is amazing.

I think it’s very important that we remember the Sadducees and the Pharisees who were concerned and overburdened with the letter of the Law to the point where they had forgotten its meaning. It is common for a modern perspective to look at the rigorous tenets of the Law and see it as something ridiculous and outdated. But any earnest study of the text reveals some of the incredibly important principles it embodies; principles that are as relevant today as they were then; principles and ordinances that have guaranteed Israel’s continued existence through millennia and all the vicissitudes of history. For example, Leviticus 19:9 directs that a portion of harvest be left for the poor; in other words, God asks that you consider your neighbour. Verse 14 commands deference for the handicapped. The Law offers a concept of justice; it introduces the idea of partiality and asks that you eradicate hatred from your heart. In reading the tenets of the Law, one is struck by the relevance and forward thinking much of it embodies. Some of it is indeed dated, and the difficult job of considering what aspects of the Law have aged falls to hermeneutics and exegesis, but there is little doubt that much of what is written is eternally pertinent. Although a careful analysis of the Law is richly rewarding, the reader is confronted with a mixture of the strangely archaic and the amazingly relevant. The Jewish dietary regulations are a good example of a tenet long ridiculed, however, the recent BSE crisis in the UK, brought about by the feeding of offal to herbivorous animals, must lead to a re-evaluation of the purpose and value of these Laws which are the sensible pragmatism of a primitive, nomadic people to facilitate their survival in a hostile environment. In today’s society, we can see many issues like cruelty to animals and slavery are vehemently condemned, but this condemnation is a recent phenomenon, despite the fact that these attitudes have been present in the Torah for thousands of years. Considering this enormously important heritage it seems reasonable that more attention should be given to it and more respect afforded.

 

[clmowry]

Personally, I don’t think following the dietary rules of the Old Covenant Covenant would be a “bad” thing. It looks like a good low scavanger content diet to me.

But it’s not going to get you too or keep you out of heaven.

But if they really plan on Restoration of the old covenant, ask your friend how the animal sacrifices and the stonings are going.

I’m guessing they don’t really believe in the restoration of the old covenant, they just believe in the restoration of the bits and pieces they like.

Chuck

 

[FightingFat]

But it’s not going to get you too or keep you out of heaven.

Not on its own, but as a sign of personal devotion and fidelity to YHWH?? As an outward indication of commitment to God? Remember the Jews are still here, this law has kept them going through all the centuries, it should not be underestimated IMO.

 

[clmowry]

Not on its own, but as a sign of personal devotion and fidelity to YHWH?? As an outward indication of commitment to God? Remember the Jews are still here, this law has kept them going through all the centuries, it should not be underestimated IMO.

Really?

So how many Jews that have worked on Saturday have been stoned to death as commanded lately?

This is part of the old covenant correct?

This would be honoring God right?

Chuck

 

[FightingFat]

Its easy to be glib, and as I stated in my first post, there’s no doubt some of it has aged and seems archaic, what I’m saying is that the Law deserves more respect from us Christians IMO.

 

[clmowry]

Its easy to be glib, and as I stated in my first post, there’s no doubt some of it has aged and seems archaic, what I’m saying is that the Law deserves more respect from us Christians IMO.

That the law deserves more respect from Christians, I fully agree with.

But this is much different than saying that we should embrace the law as a sign of devotion to God and that the Law got the Jews through the centuries.

Chuck