This thread is interesting isnt it because it does bring to the front your knowledge of history,politics and economics and opinions but my gut feeling is the current economic and political governance is changing and that banking policy has a huge influence on govt policy across the globe which hasn’t worked and people are not satisfied with secularism…are you?
Yes, it’s Miffy, Kaninchen is German for Rabbit and ‘coniglia’ (in my sig) is Italian for rabbit. My ancestors lived in Germany and Italy.
I think a lot of people are intrigued and interested in monarchy in the abstract (that would include fantasy / RPG buffs, of course), but only a small fraction are “monarchists”.
I’m a “soft monarchist” in that I see the potential advantages of the system under certain specific conditions, but I’m not blind to its potential flaws as well. So maybe we could change the figure to 0.0020001%
(Also, OT, but is that Miffy in your signature and avatar? My wife’s a huge fan of Miffy.)
Live and learn a little more every day, I guess!
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(We had lots of local kings and princes in our history, but few large-scale, united kingdoms - which is why the Mughals, and then the British, had easy pickings.)Forums. But there are also alot of articles about polls and the possible restoration of monarchies.
Serbia has 64% support of monarchy(according to polls), Portugal 15% answered that a monarchy would be better, according to a survey, around 20% people in Germany would like monarchy restored, that number is particulary high among youth.
These are all protestant countries, it is another thing with Catholic monarchs.
Well, Juan Carlos of Spain supports gay marriage. So I don’t think “Catholic monarch” is an automatic ticket to moral or fiscal paradise.
On this side of heaven I doubt if there will ever be moral or fiscal paradise… no one is saying that but im hopeful of the future still in that people are really getting into debate about capitalism, monarchy,role of the banks,globalisation etc we are in time of change. Monarchy is linked to desecularisation I think?? But whatever we are in interesting times of change.Well, Juan Carlos of Spain supports gay marriage. So I don’t think “Catholic monarch” is an automatic ticket to moral or fiscal paradise.
Where?
The Crown Prince claims 40%
Some kind of evidence would be nice.
Ah, but your list included some unlikely candidates for Catholic monarchy - you expect a Catholic monarch for Serbia? A Catholic monarch for Russia? You expect that the German monarchists would support a Wittelsbach pretender over a Hohenzollern?
I live in the UK and I suppose I could be described as a Monarchist - to me it beats having a President with power who is hated by half the population (as in the US or France) or one of the a purely ceremonial Presidents - usually a geriatric politician - one finds in countries like Germany or Italy. Most people like Liz or quite like Liz.Live and learn a little more every day, I guess!
I’ve got to tell her about this, though. She’ll be thrilled to hear of a “Miffy sighting” (especially since that picture at the top with the teddy bear looks a bit like her…
And I’m sure that, as a European, you’ll know a lot more about the ins and outs of monarchy.
Whenever things appear a bit complicated, you can be sure that they’re far more complicated than that.
As an Anglophile Indian, I can endorse that.
I do agree…and prince charles does princes trustetc for homeless a great supporter of renewable energy. …the Queen and Prince Charles have also vetoed various bills so I agree that they have enormous stabilising Influence. I think the Church of England and the Catholic church will come closer to unity…I am ever hopeful! !
Ummm. I understand your liking the Brit monarchy, and that’s fine enough since it has no power. But Britain has swung through political extremes even more than the U.S. has. Monarchy didn’t save Britain from that. And from what moral excess has monarchy preserved the Netherlands?
Umm, no.
Not that it detracts from your basic point. but the opinion on Hirohito role varies with the scholar.Ummm. I understand your liking the Brit monarchy, and that’s fine enough since it has no power. But Britain has swung through political extremes even more than the U.S. has. Monarchy didn’t save Britain from that. And from what moral excess has monarchy preserved the Netherlands?
And Hirohito was very much the moving agent in the start of WWII. And Louis XIV was virtually the Hitler of his time in terms of territorial aggression. Turned out well for France in the long run, but it was terrible for a lot of people during his reign. And let us not forget that if Kaiser Wilhelm had held fast to his belief that there was no good excuse for Austria’s war on Serbia, there would have been no WWI. But for the vanity of one man, it would never have happened.
I still think of the proper role of monarchs today in terms of decor and selling titles for charitable contributions. They ought to do that unabashedly, but they’re pretty close with titles. Having said that, however, I do like the Italian version of the Austro-Hungarian Empire’s uniforms. My Italian grandfather always said his father came from “the Empire”, since his part of Italy was in the Empire when he left. The Hungarian version is a little too much though, and was hard on the leopard population.
Hitler was head of the Nazi party, which was only one of the several major parties in the Reichstag. After President Hindenburg threw out the previous chancellor, Heinrich Bruning, he had to find a new chancellor. Since Hitler was the leader of a major party, he was eventually chosen by Hindenburg to be the new chancellor. So, in this scenario, only Hindenburg was elected, but Hitler was chosen.
