Resurrection apperance to Mary

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Fooled ya! I mean the mother of Jesus Mary.
There is a tradition that the first person to see the resurrection of Jesus was his mother. There was an article by a church father on the Catholic Encyclopedia online. For the record, she was praying somewhere- in the Cenacle, perhaps? Anyone else know anything?
pax
 
Fooled ya! I mean the mother of Jesus Mary.
There is a tradition that the first person to see the resurrection of Jesus was his mother. There was an article by a church father on the Catholic Encyclopedia online. For the record, she was praying somewhere- in the Cenacle, perhaps? Anyone else know anything?
pax
I remember hearing about an apparation to Mary but not allowing her to touch Him. But I’m pretty sure that’s the other Mary.

-Pax
 
Hi Ite,

It is logical to think that Jesus appeared to his mother, but there is nothing in scripture or Holy Tradition that speaks about this.

Verbum
 
Hi Ite,

It is logical to think that Jesus appeared to his mother, but there is nothing in scripture or Holy Tradition that speaks about this.

Verbum
If a couple of Church Fathers speak about it maybe it could be considered a tradition.
 
If a couple of Church Fathers speak about it maybe it could be considered a tradition.
Like the other poster it would seem to make sense that Jesus would appear to his mother but there really is nothing in scripture or tradition to suggest this.
 
Fooled ya! I mean the mother of Jesus Mary.
There is a tradition that the first person to see the resurrection of Jesus was his mother. There was an article by a church father on the Catholic Encyclopedia online. For the record, she was praying somewhere- in the Cenacle, perhaps? Anyone else know anything?pax
If you search my posts, there was a thread on this. Despite the nay-sayers, YES! this is a tradition. There were links in the thread.
 
Here in Matthew 28 it speaks of both Mary’s:

Matthew 28
The Resurrection
1After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

2There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.

5The angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7Then go quickly and tell his disciples: ‘He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.’ Now I have told you.”

8So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”
 
Here in Matthew 28 it speaks of both Mary’s:

Matthew 28
The Resurrection
1After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

2There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.

5The angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7Then go quickly and tell his disciples: ‘He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.’ Now I have told you.”

8So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”
I assume you are joking. I doubt very much if Scripture refers to the mother of Christ as “the other Mary”. The other Mary is a different Mary. She is the mother of James and Joseph.
 
There’s a tradition. We don’t know much about it, 'cause it’s not our business. But yes, it was always said that Jesus did come to see His mother.

I mean, if He’d come back to life and not come to see His mother? His Jewish mother? She’d have had to kill Him! Again! 🙂
 
**There’s a tradition. **We don’t know much about it, 'cause it’s not our business. But yes, it was always said that Jesus did come to see His mother.

I mean, if He’d come back to life and not come to see His mother? His Jewish mother? She’d have had to kill Him! Again! 🙂
There is no tradition. If you claim there is then please cite your sources.
 
Food for thought, from the Catholic Encyclopedia:

The inspired record of the incidents connected with Christ’s Resurrection do not mention Mary; but neither do they pretend to give a complete account of all that Jesus did or said. The Fathers too are silent as to Mary’s share in the joys of her Son’s triumph over death. Still, St. Ambrose [95] states expressly: “Mary therefore saw the Resurrection of the Lord; she was the first who saw it and believed. Mary Magdalen too saw it, though she still wavered”. George of Nicomedia [96] infers from Mary’s share in Our Lord’s sufferings that before all others and more than all she must have shared in the triumph of her Son. In the twelfth century, an apparition of the risen Saviour to His Blessed Mother is admitted by Rupert of Deutz [97], and also by Eadmer [98] St. Bernardin of Siena [99], St. Ignatius of Loyola [100], Suarez [101], Maldonado [102], etc. [103] That the risen Christ should have appeared first to His Blessed Mother, agrees at least with our pious expectations.

Though the Gospels do not expressly tell us so, we may suppose that Mary was present when Jesus showed himself to a number of disciples in Galilee and at the time of His Ascension (cf. Matthew 28:7, 10, 16; Mark 16:7). Moreover, it is not improbable that Jesus visited His Blessed Mother repeatedly during the forty days after His Resurrection.

Pax, Ioseph
 
This doesn’t necessarily answer any questions, but it made me think of this:
Because Mary remained hidden during her life she is called by the Holy Spirit and the Church “Alma Mater”, Mother hidden and unknown. So great was her humility that she desired nothing more upon earth than to remain unknown to herself and to others, and to be known only to God.
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Even though Mary was his faithful spouse, God the Holy Spirit willed that his apostles and evangelists should say very little about her and then only as much as was necessary to make Jesus known.
From St Louis de Montfort’s True Devotion
ewtn.com/library/montfort/truedevo.htm
 
Food for thought, from the Catholic Encyclopedia:

The inspired record of the incidents connected with Christ’s Resurrection do not mention Mary; but neither do they pretend to give a complete account of all that Jesus did or said. The Fathers too are silent as to Mary’s share in the joys of her Son’s triumph over death. Still, St. Ambrose [95] states expressly: “Mary therefore saw the Resurrection of the Lord; she was the first who saw it and believed. Mary Magdalen too saw it, though she still wavered”. George of Nicomedia [96] infers from Mary’s share in Our Lord’s sufferings that before all others and more than all she must have shared in the triumph of her Son. In the twelfth century, an apparition of the risen Saviour to His Blessed Mother is admitted by Rupert of Deutz [97], and also by Eadmer [98] St. Bernardin of Siena [99], St. Ignatius of Loyola [100], Suarez [101], Maldonado [102], etc. [103] That the risen Christ should have appeared first to His Blessed Mother, agrees at least with our pious expectations.

Though the Gospels do not expressly tell us so, we may suppose that Mary was present when Jesus showed himself to a number of disciples in Galilee and at the time of His Ascension (cf. Matthew 28:7, 10, 16; Mark 16:7). Moreover, it is not improbable that Jesus visited His Blessed Mother repeatedly during the forty days after His Resurrection.

Pax, Ioseph
This is at odds with Scripture which states pretty clearly that Mary Magdalene was first to see the resurrected Jesus. Do we believe Holy Scripture or St Ambrose?
 
newadvent.org/bible/joh020.htm
newadvent.org/bible/mat028.htm
newadvent.org/bible/mar016.htm
newadvent.org/bible/luk024.htm

Here are the resurrection accounts of all 4 gospels. I doubt any of them say, “The very first person to see the Risen Jesus was Mary Magdalen.”
Pax
Matt 28:1-7

After the sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, approached, rolled back the stone, and sat upon it.
His appearance was like lightning and his clothing was white as snow.
he guards were shaken with fear of him and became like dead men.
Then the angel said to the women in reply, “Do not be afraid! I know that you are seeking Jesus the crucified.
He is not here, for he has been raised just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay.
Then go quickly and tell his disciples, ‘He has been raised from the dead, and he is going before you to Galilee; there you will see him.’ Behold, I have told you.”

Mark 16:1-7

When the sabbath was over, **Mary Magdalene, Mary, the mother of James, and Salome **bought spices so that they might go and anoint him.
Very early when the sun had risen, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb.
They were saying to one another, “Who will roll back the stone for us from the entrance to the tomb?”
When they looked up, they saw that the stone had been rolled back; it was very large.
On entering the tomb they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a white robe, and they were utterly amazed.
He said to them, “Do not be amazed! You seek Jesus of Nazareth, the crucified. He has been raised; he is not here. Behold the place where they laid him.
But go and tell his disciples and Peter, ‘He is going before you to Galilee; there you will see him, as he told you.’”

Luke 24:1-11

But at daybreak on the first day of the week they took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb.
They found the stone rolled away from the tomb;
but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.
While they were puzzling over this, behold, two men in dazzling garments appeared to them.
They were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground. They said to them, “Why do you seek the living one among the dead?
He is not here, but he has been raised. Remember what he said to you while he was still in Galilee,
that the Son of Man must be handed over to sinners and be crucified, and rise on the third day.”
And they remembered his words.
Then they returned from the tomb and announced all these things to the eleven and to all the others.
The women were Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary the mother of James; the others who accompanied them also told this to the apostles,
but their story seemed like nonsense and they did not believe them.

John 20:1-18

On the first day of the week, Mary of Magdala came to the tomb early in the morning, while it was still dark, and saw the stone removed from the tomb.
So she ran and went to Simon Peter and to the other disciple whom Jesus loved, and told them, “They have taken the Lord from the tomb, and we don’t know where they put him.”
So Peter and the other disciple went out and came to the tomb.
both ran, but the other disciple ran faster than Peter and arrived at the tomb first;
he bent down and saw the burial cloths there, but did not go in.
When Simon Peter arrived after him, he went into the tomb and saw the burial cloths 6 there,
and the cloth that had covered his head, not with the burial cloths but rolled up in a separate place.
Then the other disciple also went in, the one who had arrived at the tomb first, and he saw and believed.
For they did not yet understand the scripture that he had to rise from the dead.
Then the disciples returned home.
But Mary stayed outside the tomb weeping. And as she wept, she bent over into the tomb
and saw two angels in white sitting there, one at the head and one at the feet where the body of Jesus had been.
And they said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping?” She said to them, “They have taken my Lord, and I don’t know where they laid him.”
When she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus there, but did not know it was Jesus.
Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you looking for?” She thought it was the gardener and said to him, “Sir, if you carried him away, tell me where you laid him, and I will take him.”
Jesus said to her, “Mary!” She turned and said to him in Hebrew, “Rabbouni,” 9 which means Teacher.
Jesus said to her, “Stop holding on to me, 10 for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am going to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
Mary of Magdala went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord,” and what he told her.

Scripture makes it clear that Mary Magdalene and other women were first to the tomb. Magdalene stayed behind and saw Jesus. He told her to go and tell Peter and the other disciples. That means he appeared to Mary Magdalene before the disciples.
Does it mean he had not already appeared to his mother. We don’t know. That would just be speculation and imply he appeared to his mother either on the second day or when it was still dark when she would have been sleeping which is less likely.
 
…OR, He went to see His Mom at the same time…or just before dawn. Remember, He is now in His Glorified Body and time and space mean nothing for Him (walking into a locked room.) It makes sense that He went to see His Mother first, and She was the very first person to see Him ressurected. Others came to see Him, but, He went to see Her.
 
…OR, He went to see His Mom at the same time…or just before dawn. Remember, He is now in His Glorified Body and time and space mean nothing for Him (walking into a locked room.) It makes sense that He went to see His Mother first, and She was the very first person to see Him ressurected. Others came to see Him, but, He went to see Her.
I’m not disagreeing with anyone who says Jesus appeared to Mary first. I’m neutral on what the real answer is which is something we don’t know.
I’m simply pointing out that no matter what our speculation is there is nothing in scripture or tradition to back that up.
 
I’m not disagreeing with anyone who says Jesus appeared to Mary first. I’m neutral on what the real answer is which is something we don’t know.
I’m simply pointing out that no matter what our speculation is there is nothing in scripture or tradition to back that up.
If you look at the other thread, there is tradition to back it up. That is why I am so adamant about it.
 
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