Resurrection is a false concept

[Peter_Plato]

There are consciousness which in charge of changes in cosmos when we are unconscious.

How would you know that without you, yourself, being conscious of it?

I suppose you presume that it must be happening based upon your assumption that consciousness is the basis of reality.

That, however, is not a deduction. It is a presumption that comes from your prior assumption.

Clearly, it begs the question.

On the same warrant, I could conclude that God remains conscious of souls even when they leave their bodies because consciousness supercedes physicality.

I am “deducing” THAT using the same assumption that you are: that consciousness is the basis of reality and God’s consciousness is such even more so than yours or mine.

Therefore, your “argument” that God cannot keep track of souls because he can ONLY track what is physical is utterly destroyed by your own assumption that consciousness is the ground for all reality, since it MUST, then, also be the ground for physical reality.

 

[utunumsint]

Hi Bahman,

Thanks for the clarifications.

Could you elaborate on this one?

New 11-Atoms and Neurons are conscious (self conscious???).

Correct. Everything that experience and affect is conscious.

So the following would be true for you?

• Atoms and neurons experience things.
• Atoms and neurons affect things.
• Therefore atoms and neurons are conscious.

I don’t understand how you arrive at this conclusion. Can you explain further?

God bless,
Ut

 

[truetofaith]

There are other conscious beings.

Everybody.

I deduce others as conscious beings.

There are consciousness which in charge of changes in cosmos when we are unconscious.

I think my position is clear now.

Consciousness doesn’t take up any space yet it can experience when there is something to be experience and then can affect reality.

You two should talk with the scientist, Hawkins.

 

[Bahman]

would you know that without you, yourself, being conscious of it?

I suppose you presume that it must be happening based upon your assumption that consciousness is the basis of reality.

That, however, is not a deduction. It is a presumption that comes from your prior assumption.

Clearly, it begs the question.

On the same warrant, I could conclude that God remains conscious of souls even when they leave their bodies because consciousness supercedes physicality.

I am “deducing” THAT using the same assumption that you are: that consciousness is the basis of reality and God’s consciousness is such even more so than yours or mine.

Therefore, your “argument” that God cannot keep track of souls because he can ONLY track what is physical is utterly destroyed by your own assumption that consciousness is the ground for all reality, since it MUST, then, also be the ground for physical reality.

Of course I see changes that I am not responsible for it after I become conscious again.

 

[Bahman]

Hi Bahman,

Thanks for the clarifications.

Could you elaborate on this one?

So the following would be true for you?

• Atoms and neurons experience things.
• Atoms and neurons affect things.
• Therefore atoms and neurons are conscious.

I don’t understand how you arrive at this conclusion. Can you explain further?

God bless,
Ut

That is definition of consciousness: Essence of any being with ability to experience and affect reality. Atoms and neurons belong to this category.

 

[utunumsint]

That is definition of consciousness: Essence of any being with ability to experience and affect reality. Atoms and neurons belong to this category.

But why should I accept your definition? What proof do you have of this?

God bless,
Ut

 

[Bahman]

But why should I accept your definition? What proof do you have of this?

God bless,
Ut

Things have something in common: they experience and affect other things.