Rethink incarceration, bishops urge [CNAU]

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Great idea! We need more focus on rehabilitation and less on punishment. Our laws need to both ensure justice is carried out while at the same time loving the sinner and acting accordingly.

I’m just glad that Christ doesn’t treat us how we treat our criminals. I would be in serious trouble.

I am a big fan of prison ministry. I wish our solution to everything wasn’t locking people up and throwing away the key.
 
I will admit that my first reaction to the title was, what are they thinking of? but then some things I have read floated into my mind, such as those who do not return to a life of crime usually have closer family ties, yet the (US) prison system seems to be set up to reduce this by having prisons in remote locations and requiring that phone calls (which all end up being long distance) be collect, which is really expensive… and that many people in prison are there on drug charges… etc.

And it really bothers me that the victim is so out of the picture. If a person steals something, shouldn’t part of the consequence be to re-pay the victim?

In so many child-raising books, natural or logical consequences are emphasized. While I think that sort of thing can go too far, the is a certain amount of that which is a good idea. Thieves should have to repay their victims, drug users undergo treatment, and the like. One punishment should not be applied to all crimes, and of course we should be careful that we don’t have violent people pleading down to a non-violent crime and then getting out on the streets, buy it does indeed seem like we should do something different.

(And it has always seemed odd that those who are better behaved in prison get supervision when they get out [early], but the worst people get out with no supervision because they fill their full sentence. Just plain weird to me!)
 
(Criminal lawyer talking.) I believe incarceration is the current “thing” much like death or corporal penalty was before. There’s basically not a better idea except for a number of probationary measures for lesser crimes that nobody believes to merit a long time behind the bars.

The problem with incarceration is, in my view, primarily the subculture that’s there. People are sentenced to one year of imprisonment (for example) but not to one year of being beat up or even raped daily by a couple of stronger inmates, before we even begin to list all the forms of psychic abuse. That needs to be taken into consideration and governments can’t pretend they aren’t responsible for it, just because it’s the inmates acting on their own and not on government instigation.

Secondly, as the previous poster pointed out, why not focus on repaying the victim instead? I remember a case where the company that was the victim of theft so badly didn’t want the thief to go to jail… because he wouldn’t be able to work and pay back. Sometimes it also makes little sense to prosecute people for criminal violations and more to sit them at the mediation table and get them to solve their mutual problems.

Thirdly, going to jail messes up your life so hard it’s really hard to come back to an honest life. Find employment if you have a nasty file. Get any credibility if you’re a “convicted felon” (which in some jurisdictions lasts forever even if the record is expunged) and especially known to have been in jail. This is a kind of punishment not included in the tariff and in the sentencing process but possibly much worse, much harder to the inmate than the short prison sentence itself (unless he gets raped and beaten by his inmates).

Then, prisons are a breeding ground for serious criminals. Ties are formed there. Comraderie is formed for ever after (a bit like on military campaigns). Experience is exchanged. People get demoralised. Their brains don’t necessarily get better, either, for being locked up in a cramped space and being bored (which is why it’s a great thing if work is available for serving inmates).

Also—costs. Real estate costs, security, staff, feeding, laundry, everything costs. Making sure dude is working and paying the damages probably costs less.

On the other hand, IMHO rapists and habitually violent people need to be stopped as a primary concern. The safety of potential victims is a more important concern to me than the well-being of those folks.
 
tallahassee.com/article/20110828/NEWS01/108280335/Grosmaire-McBride-families-discuss-healing-after-tragedy

A link to an article about two families’ using restorative justice to promote healing.

I post it not because it’s about murder, but because it’s about thinking differently than we normally do. (In the US, I think that most murders are of people like drug dealers vying for turf, so this does not seem like a good plan for people like that).

Two families who seem to have already been friends had a terrible tragedy: the son of one family shot and killed the daughter if the other family, his fiance.

The dather of the young man immediately went to the hospital and apologized to the family. The son turned himself in.

The family who lost their daughter chose to forgive in a big way and worked for a lesser sentence for the young man.

In some cases, I can see how this might work. They also mentioned a different focus, instead of saying: what law was broken and what shall we do about it, to say, what is the situation and how can we make it better?
 
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