Revelation of christ to john (interp. by walt2000)

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Only God knows the future. Why do you waste time trying to figure out Revelations? Jesus made it very clear we do not know the day or hour of our death and we should live a sin free life so that if we are suddenly taken we can be sure of being saved. It is irrelevant when the end days are. There is nothing to prepare for as Jesus said we should always be ready.
We do not know the day or hour of our death.THIS IS REVELATIONS.Revelations is an opening. prop.of our future,second coming of Christ .And this thread is not talking of our death. this thread talks of our life.

Would you call life with Christ ,DEATH.
If you do,you are on the wrong thread.walt2000
 
Only God knows the future. Why do you waste time trying to figure out Revelations? Jesus made it very clear we do not know the day or hour of our death and we should live a sin free life so that if we are suddenly taken we can be sure of being saved. It is irrelevant when the end days are. There is nothing to prepare for as Jesus said we should always be ready.
And why I am compelled to Revelations,for over thirty five years, actually it is over that, but let us say thirty five years.Ask Christ when you see him.And tell him to take it away from me it,s been a trouble all the way. The thirty five years is how long it took to figure out how to write it down, so that you and other people can understand it.walt2000
 
And why I am compelled to Revelations,for over thirty five years, actually it is over that, but let us say thirty five years.Ask Christ when you see him.And tell him to take it away from me it,s been a trouble all the way. The thirty five years is how long it took to figure out how to write it down, so that you and other people can understand it.walt2000
What is it you have been trying to figure out that you think we need to know? Jesus told us to be always ready. If we are always ready then what does Revelations do for us?
 
Thistle read revelations 1/1-3 why is that in there,if Revelations is not relevant?
Could that be it, I am not sure?
And you are right about being ready,are you?
I with all the thirty five years on studying ,I am not sure I am ?worthy ,only Christ saves me.walt2000
 
Thistle read revelations 1/1-3 why is that in there,if Revelations is not relevant?
Could that be it, I am not sure?
And you are right about being ready,are you?
I with all the thirty five years on studying ,I am not sure I am ?worthy ,only Christ saves me.walt2000
Sorry but your post is largely incoherent. What are you saying?
Jesus said we don’t know the when and we have to be ready. Are you saying he lied?
 
Sorry but your post is largely incoherent.** sorry **do not be sorry, that is why revelations was hidden for 2 thousand years. Jesus said we don’t know the when ,and we have to be ready.
you are right on.but that is off thread.

Christ does not lie.
We do not interp. truth.We interp what we wish to be truth.
 
Like I told you before this is not for every body,some see but do not see, some hear but do not hear,walt2000
 
You Walt, should look at December 12, 2012 the end of The Mayan calender. The Mayans had a sacred tree in their text, just as in the Indo-European cultures. They also had a knowledge of astronomy reaching far beyond any other of that time. There is much craze over it now because of the Mel Gibson film. Dec 21, 2012 does actually have a significance astronomically, it is rather difficult to understand unless rigorously studied, it has something to do with the sun’s shadow being aligned with the center of the milky-way galaxy. Of the brief once over I did of one of these fanatic sights, I discover that we, they preach, will enter a hall of mirrors in which we look at ourselves deeper and painfully truer, and began a deeper respect for others by facing our own faults, those who don’t question their own flaws perish, and those who go through, live were technology and former wants are futile.
How does the Sun have a shadow???
 
Like I told you before this is not for every body,some see but do not see, some hear but do not hear,walt2000
I have a strong faith and believe and accept the fullness of truth of Jesus’ teachings through the Catholic Church he established and I try to follow a sin-free life (not perfect of course which is why we have Reconciliation), love God and my neighbour and I know if I die in a state of grace I am morally confident of being saved.

Are you saying that there is something more (which is hidden in Revelations) in order for me (and others) to be saved?
 
Revelations is the proof ,of what the prophets were saying in the first 26 books ,of the new testement.and the whole old testement.
The truth,Like see,I told you so,sort of thing, If you only had the ears to hear ,and eyes to see,and asked,and it would be given unto you.
We have faith, given by the holy spirit,but some need proof.some have to put their hand in the side of Christ, to believe.
walt2000
How do you spell testement,is this right?
 
Revelations is the proof ,of what the prophets were saying in the first 26 books ,of the new testement.and the whole old testement.
The truth,Like see,I told you so,sort of thing, If you only had the ears to hear ,and eyes to see,and asked,and it would be given unto you.
We have faith, given by the holy spirit,but some need proof.some have to put their hand in the side of Christ, to believe.
walt2000
How do you spell testement,is this right?
Again you are being incoherent.
You absolutely do NOT need proof of anything. If you need proof it means you have no faith. Faith is belief without proof!!!
 
I,m glad you have every thing figured out,thistle
I guess I am not your equal .walt2000
 

----------------------------------INTRODUCTION--------------------------------------
----------------------------I like to keep my victory on the top -----------------
--------------------------------Read from bottom up---------------------------------​

VISION OF IMAGERY EXPLAINED--------------------------------Rev.1/20
CONQUERER OF DEATH---------------------------------------------Rev.1/18​

VISION OF CHRIST------------------------------------------------------Rev.1/13​

VISION OF SEVEN CHURCHES-----------------------------------Rev.1/11​

VISION ON PATMOS---------------------------------------------------Rev.1/9​

VISION OF SECOND COMING-------------------------------------Rev.1/7​

MESSAGE TO THE CHURCHES----------------------------------Rev.1/4​

REVELATIONS OF CHRIST TO JOHN---------------------------Rev.1/1​

FIRST PAGE OF------- ELEVEN ELEMENTS-------------Rev.1/1-20
 
Re.1-3 PROMISES things john seen

Promise Seven church of laodicea Re.3/4 A THRONE

Promise six church of Philadelphia Re.3/7 PROTECTION
Promise five church of Sardis Re.3/1 CLOTHED IN WHITE
Promise four church of Thyatira Re.2.18 POWER
Promise three church of Pergamas Re.2/12 FORGIVENESS
Promise two church of Smyrna Re.2/8 NO SECOND DEATH
Promise one church of Ephesus Re.2/1 LIFE EVER LASTING

I LIKE MY REWARD TO BE ON TOP so I put my victory at the top. REMEMBER LOOK AT THE NUMBERICS
7 THRONE
6 MAN
5 WORD
4 EARTH
3 UNITY IN THETRINITY
2 DIVINE PROTICTION
1 ONENESS,IN THE LIGHT
HAY GUYS ,WE WINNERS ,SEVEN TIMES A WINNER-------------​

SECOND PAGE------------------SEVEN MORE ELEMENTS-------------
 
I,m glad you have every thing figured out,thistle
I guess I am not your equal .walt2000
You comment has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Are you on medication or something.
I said Faith does not require proof because Faith is belief without requiring proof.

What is your response to that?
 
This is the end of things Thu seen .
Rev.3-4 go in to the THINGS WHICH SHALL BE HEREAFTER They will be looked at the end,and compaired with Rev.21-22. John is shown the open door.Rev.3/8
To sum-up.
John in his cave, in Pat mos,is shone visions in front of him,he is given promises,then he is transported with the help of the HOLY SPIRIT,through the open door of Rev.3/8 and is taken to THE HEREAFTER,
He skips past THE THINGS WHICH ARE.These two chapters will be dealt with later on, as not to confuse the issue.
Next thing in line, we will look at, will be the SEVEN THUNDERS The things which are.

We have gone through two pages of fourteen elements.
The number 2 in gem atria is the number of union.
the next 7 is the number of ,Resurrection;Spiritual completeness;Fathers perfection.walt2000
 
You comment has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Are you on medication or something.
I said Faith does not require proof because Faith is belief without requiring proof.

What is your response to that?
OFF THREAD, LOOK UP FAITH walt2000
 
OFF THREAD, LOOK UP FAITH walt2000
So you are lost for words?? I’ll give you a chance to (name removed by moderator)ress all the posters with a one word answer.

Does our Faith in Christ require proof? YES or NO??
 
So you are lost for words?? I’ll give you a chance to (name removed by moderator)ress all the posters with a one word answer.

Does our Faith in Christ require proof? YES or NO??
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 Even if this is off thread,and doe's not deserve an answer, I will lower my self anyway,and, give you an answer.
 The answers is axiomatic,do you really think,I would spent over thirty five years in revelation alone,literaly wore out, at least four complete bibles.
  Worked the bible at least 10 hr. a day,(and sometimes nite )just about every day and nite, If I did not have any faith,in our lord Jesus Christ.give me a brake.
  Look  for your answer, do your search, on this forum, or goggle it, see if you,have the faith It takes.There is your one word answer.Did you pick it out ,I think not.walt2000
 
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