Revenge of the Sith - things that make you go hmmm

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Scott_Lafrance:
And for those interested in the Jedi side of things, it is Yoda who is ultimately responsible for bringing balance to the Force, albeit indirectly.

Yoda trains Count Dooku.
Count Dooku trains Qui-Gon Jinn.
Qui-Gon Jinn trains Obiwan Kinobi
Obiwan Kinobi trains Anakin Skywalker.
Anakin Skywalker kills Count Dooku (aka Darth Tyraneous)
Anakin turns to the Dark Side and becomes Darth Vader
Yoda trains Luke Skywalker
Luke Skywalker turns Darth Vader back from the Dark Side
Anakin Skywalker kills Darth Sidious and suffers mortal injury from Force Lightning, thus the last of the Sith perish together.

Thus, it is from the line of Jedi Knights that passes through Yoda that ultimately brings balance to the Force.
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A little like the Blessed Mary who was indirectly responsible for the salvation of herself and of all…
 
Since I just seen this totally awesome flick which closes out the entire Saga just fine, I figure this would make for my 1st Post! 👍
 
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UnworthySoul:
Two things that annoyed me:
  1. They mentioned Master Sifa-Dias <sp?> in Ep. II as the guy who ordered the clone army. I was hoping they would explain who the heck he was in Ep. III. Of course, they did not. Grrrr…
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Maybe he was an apprentice after Darth Maul, but before Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku who was killed in between movies.
 
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wabrams:
Maybe he was an apprentice after Darth Maul, but before Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku who was killed in between movies.
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I don’t think so. The clone army was ordered about 10 years before the events of Episode II, roughly the same time that Qui-Gon Jinn finds Anakin. I think that Count Dooku becomes Sidious’ apprentice and his first mission is to order the Clone army and remove evidence of Kamino from the Jedi Temple. It fits the timeline.
 
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wabrams:
Maybe he was an apprentice after Darth Maul, but before Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku who was killed in between movies.
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Nope. Master Sifo-Dyas was a Jedi. He only had the clone army created when he foresaw the unrest between the Jedi Order and the Republic. He confided this unrest to Darth Tyranus (his friend and confidante Count Dooku) who was the new Sith Lord after Darth Maul. Tyranus took this news to Sidius, and Sidius order Tyranus to murder his friend Sifo-Dyas and gain control of the clone project. The Kaminoans took for granted later that Sifo-Dyas and Count Dooku (Tyranus) were working together on the project.
 
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Shiann:
Nope. Master Sifo-Dyas was a Jedi. He only had the clone army created when he foresaw the unrest between the Jedi Order and the Republic. He confided this unrest to Darth Tyranus (his friend and confidante Count Dooku) who was the new Sith Lord after Darth Maul. Tyranus took this news to Sidius, and Sidius order Tyranus to murder his friend Sifo-Dyas and gain control of the clone project. The Kaminoans took for granted later that Sifo-Dyas and Count Dooku (Tyranus) were working together on the project.
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Is this in novels or other material outside of the movies? I’ve read of this backstory elsewhere, but I don’t know what the original source is. Because it’s not all explicitly in the movies, is it? Or was it all explained when I went to get a refill on my popcorn?
 
Bobby Jim:
Is this in novels or other material outside of the movies? I’ve read of this backstory elsewhere, but I don’t know what the original source is. Because it’s not all explicitly in the movies, is it? Or was it all explained when I went to get a refill on my popcorn?
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That information is mostly outside of the actual film versions. I don’t read all the novels and comics myself, but I have read many of the compilations of the outside info… Timetales is actually my favorite. It is basicly a detailed timeline of these stories. If you want the exact literature that this information is from I could probably dig it up through the compendiums that I read. They are generally quite full of references. 🙂
 
At least in Episodes IV, V, and VI, Lucas made an attempt to develop believable relationships between the characters and obey the laws of science.
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Laws of science? What laws of science incorporate the Force, stars flying past the windshields of ships, noise in space, lightsabers, faster-than-light travel, stone weapons taking down robotic war machines and blaster-proof armor, ect. Lucas has never, ever focused on science.

And what was honestly believable about the relationship between Han and Leia? It was forced, spotty, and if they hadn’t kissed at the end of Empire Strikes Back no one would have believed it was developing the way it was. And the dialogue? Puh-leez! People have been watching the old movies with rose-colored glasses.
 
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Ghosty:
And what was honestly believable about the relationship between Han and Leia? It was forced, spotty, and if they hadn’t kissed at the end of Empire Strikes Back no one would have believed it was developing the way it was. And the dialogue? Puh-leez! People have been watching the old movies with rose-colored glasses.
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I’ve developed a certain parameter that I think correlates very well with the quality of the movies. It’s called the Wookie Factor.

Episodes 3, 4, 5, and 6: Substantial screen time for Wookies = good movies.

Episodes 1 and 2: No Wookies = not as good.
 
Bobby Jim:
I’ve developed a certain parameter that I think correlates very well with the quality of the movies. It’s called the Wookie Factor.

Episodes 3, 4, 5, and 6: Substantial screen time for Wookies = good movies.

Episodes 1 and 2: No Wookies = not as good.
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Didn’t need wookies in I and II, there were Gungans and Jar Jar Binks.
 
Bobby Jim:
I’ve developed a certain parameter that I think correlates very well with the quality of the movies. It’s called the Wookie Factor.

Episodes 3, 4, 5, and 6: Substantial screen time for Wookies = good movies.

Episodes 1 and 2: No Wookies = not as good.
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:rotfl:

Works for me
 
How come no one ever replies “And also with you” when someone says “May the force be with you”? How rude!
 
I just realized something profound… In Mexico “Chewie” (sometimes spelled “Chuy”) is a common nickname for men with the name Jesus.

So who’s the real Christ figure in Star Wars? Is it Yoda? Anakin? Luke? Nope, it’s CHEWIE!!!
 
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Here is a link to a really good analysis of Western and Eastern philosophy in Star Wars. Summary: the Jedi of the Old Republic are Buddhist (no attachments). Luke, the “new hope” of the Jedi in the New Republic is a Christ-like figure (salvation for the lost achieved by love…and a good light saber).
 
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milimac:
How come no one ever replies “And also with you” when someone says “May the force be with you”? How rude!
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I completely agree!
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
Didn’t need wookies in I and II, there were Gungans and Jar Jar Binks.
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Oh, puh-leeeze!!! How can you say Gungans can possibly compare to Wookies?? I mean, seriously, which do you prefer: Oversized frogs with annoying voices, or oversized teddy bears with laser guns? Cooome oooonn…😉
 
the Hatter:
Oh, puh-leeeze!!! How can you say Gungans can possibly compare to Wookies?? I mean, seriously, which do you prefer: Oversized frogs with annoying voices, or oversized teddy bears with laser guns? Cooome oooonn…😉
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You have to admit that the little blue globs of energy that the Gungans used were kinda cool. And you can honestly say that you prefer Chewbaca to Jar Jar Binks? Here a sample convo.

Chewy: Roooooooooar. roar.
Jar Jar: Wassa yousum saying, biggim fuzzy wuzzy.
Chewy: Roooooooooar. roar roar.
Jar Jar: Meesa soooo sowwy Fuzzy. Meesa no can understand wassa yousum sayin’.
Chewy: Roooooooooar. (Grabs jar jar by the ears and pulls them off).
 
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milimac:
How come no one ever replies “And also with you” when someone says “May the force be with you”? How rude!
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That’s because those of us in the audience are doing it!
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
You have to admit that the little blue globs of energy that the Gungans used were kinda cool. And you can honestly say that you prefer Chewbaca to Jar Jar Binks? Here a sample convo.

Chewy: Roooooooooar. roar.
Jar Jar: Wassa yousum saying, biggim fuzzy wuzzy.
Chewy: Roooooooooar. roar roar.
Jar Jar: Meesa soooo sowwy Fuzzy. Meesa no can understand wassa yousum sayin’.
Chewy: Roooooooooar. (Grabs jar jar by the ears and pulls them off).
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As a wise droid once said “Let the Wookie Win”
 
As for likeability factor, I’ll take Chewie over Jar Jar…but I will take Jar Jar over C3PO ANY DAY… he’s an annoying Gold Plated “Jeeves” 😃
 
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