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FenianMan
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Just by way of clarification, priests can only administer five (5) of the seven sacraments. They can preside at weddings, but do not properly confer them, and they can’t ordain.
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katherine2
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Well, another example of Catholics who think they are traditional but who cling to the innovations of a previous generation and think they are affirming tradition.
Where did you get the idea that the clerical attire was the sole possession of the Catholic church? The clerical collar is a relatively recent innovation and Catholic and Protestant clergy have made use of it in various cultures.
Where did you get the idea that the clerical attire was the sole possession of the Catholic church? The clerical collar is a relatively recent innovation and Catholic and Protestant clergy have made use of it in various cultures.
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beng
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Well, I should’ve said: “most of them are outside the Church”
Thus they are not part of the royal priesthood.
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beng
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Sorry, Protestant are outside the Church. You call it smug, I call it fact. Or do you want me to lie?
They are absolutely NOT part of the royal priesthood.
If minister is define as just helping other, than fine, they can have that title.
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beng
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No, I’m not.Hi beng!
Are you a Catholic who rejects everything after VII? Some of your posts are making me think that you are. Set me straight.
In Christ,
Nancy
I like being able to drink the blood. I like vernacular too.
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beng
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If this is directed to me than you’re arguing strawman.
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Thomas2
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Why is it so hard to get a straight answer to a simple question?
Peace and all good,
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Peace and all good,
Thomas2
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Timidity
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Do Eastern Catholics call their priests “Father”?
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katherine2
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In the East, the honorific is used by priests, deacons and laymonks.
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SaintJVMan
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thann said:
A Deacon is “reverend Mr.”, a priest is “reverend” ,rector or a monsignor is “very reverend”, a Bishop or Arch-Bishop is “Most Reverend”.
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Apologia100
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For clarification, a priest “officiates” a wedding, the participants (bride and groom) are the ones that actually administer the sacrament, the priest is there to ensure they follow the proper form and substance. With regards to ordination, only bishops have the proper disposition to confer that sacrament.
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ahimsaman72
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1 Peter 2
- Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
- As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
- If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
- To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
** 5. Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.**
Fact??
Lying is one of the seven deadly sins, so no, if pride is already there and you add lying, then that’s not a good path to travel.
Sorry, Christ is the head of the church with those who believe in Him as His body. Protestants are not outside THE church. They are outside of YOUR church. There’s a difference.
Read the book of Hebrews and you will get a clear idea of the priesthood. It does not exist since the New covenant was put in place. Christ is the Great High Priest who entered the Holy of Holies once for all to take away sin. There’s absolutely no need for more sacrifices or priests to offer sacrifices.
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Gottle_of_Geer
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Unless the CC has a patent or a monopoly in it, or other “men of the cloth” are forbidden by their own churches to wear it, does it matter ?
In England at least, Nonconformists who wore it did so because of a Romeward tendency in late 19th-century Christianity. Which was not limited to Anglicanism, by a long way.Though it would be nice if priests in England went back to wearing cravats as they used to, before the Church in England went all “Roman”; and Geneva bands do help to show the wearer is a Reformed pastor of some sort.
Some of the English Reformers were very strongly opposed to the use of vestments “tainted” by their Catholic past. Sufficiently so, to go to prison rather than wear them. ##
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Gottle_of_Geer
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Yuck - too informal 
It should be: the Reverend Mister X or Father X“the Reverend Mister X” for Anglicans
“the Reverend Father X” for High Anglicans (if so desired) & for RC priests.
RC priests can also be: Father Bob/Joe/Bill, or the like, as appropriate.
Though one has to wonder what the familiar form of “Darren” is: “Dazza”, perhaps ? Perhaps it would be a good idea to be a bit stricter about baptismal names. ##
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beng
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ahimsaman72 said:1 Peter 2
The priesthood belongs to every believer as Peter states here.
- Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
- As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
- If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
- To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
** 5. Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.**
Fact??
You don’t believe what Jesus thought, thus you’re not a believer, thus you’re not part of the royal priesthood.
It’s not lying. Just the fact.
There’s only ONE Church which you’re not a part of.
Really?
Then what is this prophecy for?
Mal 1:10-11
10 Who is there among you, that will shut the doors, and will kindle the fire on my altar gratis? I have no pleasure in you, saith the Lord of hosts: and I will not receive a gift of your hand. 11 For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.
For more info click this (Check out the intriquing “Closing Remark”) and this excellent articles on Priesthood by Jimmy Akin
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beng
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Ahh forget about this:
Isaiah 66:21
2*1 And I will take of them to be priests, and Levites, saith the Lord. *
Jeremiah 33: 17-2
For thus says the Lord: David shall never lack a man to sit on the throne of the house of Israel, and the Levitical priests shall never lack a man in my presence to offer burnt offerings, to burn cereal offerings, and to make sacrifices forever. The word of the Lord came to Jeremiah: Thus says the Lord: If you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so that day and night will not come at their appointed time, then also my covenant with David my servant may be broken, so that he shall not have a son to reign on his throne, and my covenant with the Levitical priests my ministers. As the host of heaven cannot be numbered and the sands of the sea cannot be measured, so I will multiply the descendants of David my servant, and the Levitical priests who minister to me.
Read more from this article on CatholicLegate.com
Isaiah 66:21
2*1 And I will take of them to be priests, and Levites, saith the Lord. *
Jeremiah 33: 17-2
For thus says the Lord: David shall never lack a man to sit on the throne of the house of Israel, and the Levitical priests shall never lack a man in my presence to offer burnt offerings, to burn cereal offerings, and to make sacrifices forever. The word of the Lord came to Jeremiah: Thus says the Lord: If you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so that day and night will not come at their appointed time, then also my covenant with David my servant may be broken, so that he shall not have a son to reign on his throne, and my covenant with the Levitical priests my ministers. As the host of heaven cannot be numbered and the sands of the sea cannot be measured, so I will multiply the descendants of David my servant, and the Levitical priests who minister to me.
Read more from this article on CatholicLegate.com
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ahimsaman72
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It’s sad to hear your beliefs.
Acts 4:12
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (speaking of Jesus)
It is only through Christ and His name that we are saved, not through eccleastical bodies. The Roman Catholic Church does not save, nor can it save. Only Christ, apart from mankind, can save.
We obviously differ on what Jesus thought. Jesus thought He was Saviour of the world. He thought that He was the Way, the Truth and the Life and that nobody could come to the Father except through Him. (paraphrased John 14:6)
Explain to me what this prophecy states. I have no idea considering the subject matter.
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ahimsaman72
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Priesthood:
Hebrews 2
Christ sancifies believers (which I am one). He calls me His brethren and a child that the Father has given Him. He’s made the ultimate sacrifice which nobody can do again. Redemption has been accomplished.
Hebrews 2
- For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
11. For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, - Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
- And again, I will put my trust in him. And again,** Behold I and the children which God hath given me.**
- For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
- For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
27. Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. - For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
- But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
- The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
- Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
- Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
- But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12. Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. - For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
- How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15. And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. - For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Christ sancifies believers (which I am one). He calls me His brethren and a child that the Father has given Him. He’s made the ultimate sacrifice which nobody can do again. Redemption has been accomplished.
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patricius
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I’m not sure where you’re writing from, Geer, but in my parts “Reverend Mister,” for a Roman Catholic, means a deacon.
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