Reverencing The Rosary

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The Luminous mysteries:
  1. The Baptism in the Jordan
    And a voice came from the heavens, saying, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” (Mt. 3:17)
  2. The Wedding at Cana
    “Women, how does your concern affect me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servers, “Do whatever he tells you.” (Jn 2:1-12)
  3. The Proclamation of the Kingdom of God
    “This is the time of fulfillment. The kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.” (Mk 1:15)
  4. The Transfiguration
    While he was praying his face changed in appearance and his clothing became dazzling white. (Lk9:29)
  5. The Institution of the Eucharist
    Before the feast of Passover, Jesus knew that his hour had come to pass from this world to the Father. He loved his own in the world and he loved them to the end. (Jn 13:1)
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
The Glorious mysteries:
  1. The Resurrection
    Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. An angel appeared and said, “Do not be afraid! I know that you are seeking Jesus the crucified. He is not here, for He has been raised just as He said.” (Mt 28:1-10)
  2. The Ascension of Our Lord
    As Jesus blessed them He parted from them and was taken up to heaven. (Lk 24:44-53)
  3. The Descent of the Holy Spirit
    Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, “Peace be with you. Receive the Holy Spirit.” (Jn 14:15-21)
  4. The Assumption of Our Lady into Heaven
    “Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory.” (from Munificentissimus Deus (1950):DS 3903)
  5. The Coronation of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    “We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Christ.” (from the Solemn Profession of Faith: Credo of the People of God)
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
…and for good measure, even though you already know them–just to round it out here (while were at it), the Sorrowful mysteries:
  1. The Agony in the Garden
    Jesus went to a place called Gethsemane to pray. “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me; yet, not as I will, but as you will.” (Mt 26:36-46)
  2. The Scourging at the Pillar
    The chief priests with the elders and the scribes held a council. They bound Jesus, led him away, and handed him over to Pilate. Pilate, wishing to satisfy the crowd, had Jesus scourged and handed him over to be crucified. (Mk 15:1-16)
  3. The Crowning with Thorns
    They stripped off his clothes and threw a scarlet military cloak about him. Weaving a crown out of thorns, they placed it on his head, and a reed in his right hand. And kneeling before him, they mocked him, saying, “Hail, King of the Jews!” (Mt 27:27-31)
  4. The Carrying of the Cross
    Jesus, weak from being beaten, was unable to carry His cross to Golgotha alone. Simon, a Cyrenian, helped him. (Mk 15:20-22)
  5. The Crucifixion
    When they came to the place called the Skull, they crucified him and the criminals there, one on his right, the other on his left. Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, they know not what they do.” (Lk 23:33-46)
All of the above, taken from:

familyrosary.org/TheRosary/HowToPrayTheRosary/Mysteries%20of%20The%20Rosary.aspx

…amongst many other cites.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
FWIW: I compiled a Christocentric combo of my own, which I sometimes use, just to mix things up:

The Nativity (from the Joyful mysteries)–the culmination of the Incarnation;
The Crucifixion (from the Sorrowful mysteries)–the culmination of the Passion;
The Resurrection (from the Glorious mysteries)–the apex of the Liturgy;
The Ascension (from the Glorious mysteries)–the culmination of Christ on earth, and
…the nexus between the Resurrection, and the Kingdom of God; and

The Eucharist (from the Luminous mysteries)–the summit and apex of the Faith, and the Kingdom on earth.

This last one to me is the most important (just my humble opinion)–as it contemplates Christ among us, to this very day.

Note: sometimes I’ll sub the Pentacost for the Ascension, as it is the birth of the Church, the instrumentality by which the Eucharist is given to us, and the next logical link between the Res’n and the Eucharist.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
Absolutely yes! All Christians should pray the rosary for the savation of the world.
 
No concerns about ‘mechanical repitition of formulas’, or Christ’s admonition in Mt 6:7 (as I expressed in my post, immediately before yours?)
No, that is not a concern because as long as you are saying the prayers with a prayerful attitude and are meditating on the words of the prayer then it doesn’t matter how many times you repeat the prayer. How many times could someone repeat the fact that they love you until you got tired of hearing it? Most people would NEVER tire of hearing it! Unless it was apparent that the sentiment was not behind the words being spoken… The only time a prayer is in danger of being a “vain repetition” is when it is said thoughtlessly. That scripture is not simply talking about the activity of repeating the prayers. It is talking about those prayers that are said thoughtlessly without a prayerful attitude and love of God and those other Saints to whom we may be speaking. And as the person stated in the question, they are meditating on prayer intentions while saying the rosary. We should strive to learn the meditations that are prescribed for this particular devotion, but as long as the prayers are being offered up for some intention they will not be wasted. I had this very same concern when I was in RCIA and that was how the priest explained it for me.

You are absolutely right to quote the fact that the Rosary without contemplation is like a “body without a soul.” But my whole point is simply that if a person is in fact meditating on a worthy intention or mystery, it is not wasted prayer–that is a form of contemplation. It would be very good to learn the mysteries, but in the meantime you don’t always have the resources handy to follow along with the mysteries as you pray and there is nothing wrong with contemplating on another worthy intention while you say it. I prayed the Rosary many times this way before I learned it completely and I reaped many spiritual benefits and blessings from this.
 
No, that is not a concern because as long as you are saying the prayers with a prayerful attitude and are meditating on the words of the prayer then it doesn’t matter how many times you repeat the prayer. How many times could someone repeat the fact that they love you until you got tired of hearing it? Most people would NEVER tire of hearing it! Unless it was apparent that the sentiment was not behind the words being spoken… The only time a prayer is in danger of being a “vain repetition” is when it is said thoughtlessly. That scripture is not simply talking about the activity of repeating the prayers. It is talking about those prayers that are said thoughtlessly without a prayerful attitude and love of God and those other Saints to whom we may be speaking. And as the person stated in the question, they are meditating on prayer intentions while saying the rosary. We should strive to learn the meditations that are prescribed for this particular devotion, but as long as the prayers are being offered up for some intention they will not be wasted. I had this very same concern when I was in RCIA and that was how the priest explained it for me.

You are absolutely right to quote the fact that the Rosary without contemplation is like a “body without a soul.” But my whole point is simply that if a person is in fact meditating on a worthy intention or mystery, it is not wasted prayer–that is a form of contemplation. It would be very good to learn the mysteries, but in the meantime you don’t always have the resources handy to follow along with the mysteries as you pray and there is nothing wrong with contemplating on another worthy intention while you say it. I prayed the Rosary many times this way before I learned it completely and I reaped many spiritual benefits and blessings from this.
Your point is well taken, but please note that I did not assert that it was wrong completely–here is what I said:
Not necessarily wrong, but it can be, potentially, problematic.
Then I went on to cite the admonitions against ‘mechanical repetition’. That’s all.

My response to you, was simply reiterating the above. The key word there, is ‘potentially’. Yes, the poster did say he was meditating on intentions, and occasionally, on the sorrowful mysteries–but within that rather vague description, was a fair amount of room for interpretation, which I felt warranted to bring that point up, and to reitierate, in response to your blanket approval, which seemed to nullify the propiety of bringing up the admonition:
No, there is nothing wrong with praying the Rosary that way.
What way? It’s not clear if intentions are always prayed with the recitation, nor alwlays with meditation on the mysteries–and so it could be ‘potentially, problematic’.

That said, again, your point is well taken–for even a well recited rosary, with all the mystieries pronounced before each decade, could still fall within the admonition against mechanical repitition, if done thoughtlessly–perhaps, arguably even more so, than praying without contemplating the mysteries, where a solemn atitude, and thoughtful, prayerful contemplation are present.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
Trying to meditate on what you are praying is sometimes difficult but should always be aimed for. Concentration is a hard thing for me to accomplish at times but I am trying.

As I only know the sorrowful mystery 100% that is what I meditate on while saying the rosary.
 
Trying to meditate on what you are praying is sometimes difficult but should always be aimed for. Concentration is a hard thing for me to accomplish at times but I am trying.

As I only know the sorrowful mystery 100% that is what I meditate on while saying the rosary.
Please don’t think I was judging you. I simply took your post, and Rissa’s reply, as occasion to share some valuable insight and counsel on the Rosary–from Popes John Paul II and Paul VI. My posts were intended as invitations to dig deeper in to the Rosary, and its higher potential–which entailed reiterating the admonition against mechanical repetition (and to refer viewers of this thread to PJP II’s encyclical)–not to belittle sincere alternative means of praying it. Note that I even volunteered my own deviation from the prescribed methodology.

*Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum. *
 
Please don’t think I was judging you. I simply took your post, and Rissa’s reply, as occasion to share some valuable insight and counsel on the Rosary–from Popes John Paul II and Paul VI. My posts were intended as invitations to dig deeper in to the Rosary, and its higher potential–which entailed reiterating the admonition against mechanical repetition (and to refer viewers of this thread to PJP II’s encyclical)–not to belittle sincere alternative means of praying it. Note that I even volunteered my own deviation from the prescribed methodology.

*Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum. *
Don’t worry. Alls fine 👍
 
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