Reverent novus ordo masses

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Does anyone know of any parishes in San Diego where the Novus Ordo Mass is celebrated closer to what was intended by Sancrosanctum Concilium and Pope Paul VI? For example, Latin is used in the unchangable parts of the Mass, Gregorian Chant, etc. Maybe even celebrated ad orientum?

I have been alternating between my current N.O. parish and the Tridentine at Saint Mary’s but was also looking for reverent Novus Ordo Mass. Any suggestions?
 
I think, you’re best bet is to look at Parish websites or visit Parishes. You’re looking for something specific, it’s really better to go see for yourself.

There is no such thing as an Novus Ordo Mass. It’s either Ordinary or Extraordinary.
In a speech he gave in 1976, Pope Paul VI unremarkably referred to this revised section as “novus Ordo Missae” (the new Order of Mass), novus being Latin for “new”.[74] Later, some began to use “Novus Ordo Missae”, or simply “Novus Ordo”, as a specific composite term for the entirety of the revised rite of Mass. Traditionalist Catholics often use it in a pejorative manner, and sometimes employ it as a blanket condemnatory term for the present-day Church (“the Novus Ordo Church”). However, “Novus Ordo” appears in no official Church document as a term for the revised form of the Roman Rite Mass.
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asia53 said:
There is no such thing as an Novus Ordo Mass. It’s either Ordinary or Extraordinary.
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Pope Benedict chose to coin the phrase that is rendered in English as Ordinary Form and Extraordinary Form. That assuredly does not mean that the vocabulary is restricted to those terms.

As a professor of liturgy, I have used the terms novus ordo and vetus ordo/I --, which applies to the Mass, the other sacraments, the breviary, as well as the institution of sacramentals and conferral of blessings – for many many years and I have no intention to change at this point of life.
 
asia53 said:
I think, you’re best bet is to look at Parish websites or visit Parishes. You’re looking for something specific, it’s really better to go see for yourself.

There is no such thing as an Novus Ordo Mass. It’s either Ordinary or Extraordinary.
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Thank you for trying to help!
 
Don_Ruggero said:
Pope Benedict chose to coin the phrase that is rendered in English as Ordinary Form and Extraordinary Form. That assuredly does not mean that the vocabulary is restricted to those terms.

As a professor of liturgy, I have used the terms novus ordo and vetus ordo

Thank you Professor Ruggero for your information.
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Can’t help you on which Catholic churches to go to for what you’re looking for. But I can tell you a couple to avoid which aren’t necessarily bad parishes, they just don’t have what you’re looking for.
 
Don_Ruggero said:
Pope Benedict chose to coin the phrase that is rendered in English as Ordinary Form and Extraordinary Form. That assuredly does not mean that the vocabulary is restricted to those terms.

As a professor of liturgy, I have used the terms novus ordo and vetus ordo

Thank you, Father, of course.
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Don_Ruggero said:
Pope Benedict chose to coin the phrase that is rendered in English as Ordinary Form and Extraordinary Form. That assuredly does not mean that the vocabulary is restricted to those terms.

As a professor of liturgy, I have used the terms novus ordo and vetus ordoPoint taken Father, however to some here, especially those who have been on the forum prior to Summorum Pontificum, “novus ordo” is a trigger word since some traditional minded posters have used it in a way to degrade the Ordinary Form for not well, being the Extraordinary Form. It is stupid, but it has happened. Thank you for the voice of reason.
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TheDoctor said:
Point taken Father, however to some here, especially those who have been on the forum prior to Summorum Pontificum, “novus ordo” is a trigger word since some traditional minded posters have used it in a way to degrade the Ordinary Form for not well, being the Extraordinary Form. It is stupid, but it has happened. Thank you for the voice of reason.
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You are welcome, I guess. It is, I confess, alien to me that people would find the terms novus ordo and vetus ordo pejorative but I accept the statement that evidently there is such a phenomenon, at least on the part of some segment of the population. It is enigmatic to me.

Personally, formam extraordinariam is rather less felicitous both to the tongue and to the ear than vetus ordo just as formam ordinariam is less felicitous than novus ordo, although the terms of Pope Benedict sound more pleasing in the vernaculars than in Latin. I can’t imagine using the newer terms in Latin in my lectures, however. I prefer the simple symmetry of the older terms.
 
Padres1969 said:
Can’t help you on which Catholic churches to go to for what you’re looking for. But I can tell you a couple to avoid which aren’t necessarily bad parishes, they just don’t have what you’re looking for.
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The thing that I’ve noticed is that during Lent, some parishes will use more Latin and perhaps instill more reverence (whatever that means to individuals) than outside of Lent. IMO it would take multiple visits to that parish to determine what the “norms” for that parish really are, although the first impression is usually the one that lasts.
 
ProVobis said:
The thing that I’ve noticed is that during Lent, some parishes will use more Latin and perhaps instill more reverence (whatever that means to individuals) than outside of Lent. IMO it would take multiple visits to that parish to determine what the “norms” for that parish really are, although the first impression is usually the one that lasts.
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True. Lent is probably the worst time of year to “parish shop.”

My observations however were based on non-Lenten visits to parishes.
 
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