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saayra
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Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Pray for Christian unity.
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Pray for Christian unity.
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ALLFORHIM
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ABostonCatholic
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By that I mean that Christ will not lead someone away from the Church that He founded.
I did not mean to say that she rejects the Christ of the bible de facto. In that sense, it is still the same Christ.
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ALLFORHIM
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Thank you for explaining it just sounded funny the way you worded it.
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heathernoel
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That’d be like giving up a Cadillac for a Yugo. 
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JoeyWarren
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That’d be like giving up a Cadillac for a Yugo.
I drove a Yugo for a while…
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lumendelumine
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I had a German internet acquaintance who was born in a Baptist family, but became Catholic as an adult. Some years later, he went back to the Baptists.
I don’t clearly know the reasons, but by what he wrote on his blog he seemed dismayed by Church teaching on sexual morality (esp. homosexuality - he himself was not a homosexual though) and also by the ‘arrogance’ of some Church members. (Though he also tended to label people ‘arrogant’ who weren’t IMO, so he may only have been very touchy, or he may have had bad experiences ‘in real life’ outside the internet.)
I don’t clearly know the reasons, but by what he wrote on his blog he seemed dismayed by Church teaching on sexual morality (esp. homosexuality - he himself was not a homosexual though) and also by the ‘arrogance’ of some Church members. (Though he also tended to label people ‘arrogant’ who weren’t IMO, so he may only have been very touchy, or he may have had bad experiences ‘in real life’ outside the internet.)
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heathernoel
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And you are admitting it?!?!? LOL
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JoeyWarren
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And you are admitting it?!?!? LOL
no shame or pride here. At the time it was very cheap…less then 5 grand 
and at 43 mpg and a limited budget, it was a wise choice…although I did look funny in it…being 6’1" and 25O lbs. 
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DaveBj
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How do you double the value of a Yugo? --Fill the gas tank.
How do you triple the value of a Yugo? --Fill the gas tank and put the gas cap back on.
Why do Yugos have heated rear windows? --To keep your hands warm while you’re pushing them.
Back on topic, I personally don’t know anyone who has converted to Catholicism and then reverted, but I do know that it does happen. I noted in This Rock some time ago that some of the early contributors to the magazine’s “Damascus Road” section (conversion stories) had fallen away from Catholicism; I don’t remember offhand whether or not they had reverted to their former faith.
I would have to agree with previous posters that a lot depends on the level of catachesis and on the level of acceptance of Catholic doctrine. If you have someone who claims to be Catholic, but doesn’t accept the Church’s doctrine on this, that, or the other thing, then that person’s catholicity has to be suspect. There is a label for people who want to pick and choose which of the Church’s doctrines to believe–Protestant.
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ThePRGuy
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I, too, am a cradle Episcopalian (now Anglican) going through RCIA. Once you become Catholic, there’s no going back. At least that’s how the church counts you. You can attend services elsewhere, but your heart and soul are still counted as Roman Catholic. (Sorry, can’t back this long-held belief up with any cathechism or solid Catholic teaching.)
Welcome home!
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jmcrae
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Of the converts from Protestantism that I know of who later left the Catholic faith, none returned to Protestantism.
Several that I know of became members of the SSPX, one person started following some form of Judaism (although did not actually become Jewish, that I know of), and others became atheists. The majority of people who converted and then became unhappy with their parish simply changed parishes.
Several that I know of became members of the SSPX, one person started following some form of Judaism (although did not actually become Jewish, that I know of), and others became atheists. The majority of people who converted and then became unhappy with their parish simply changed parishes.
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mystified
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Because of my aunt’s strong anti-Catholic stance, my cousin convinced his fianceé, a Catholic convert, to leave the church, and they were married in a Lutheran ceremony that was tolerated by my aunt. Am not aware that they were active in any denominations after that.
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BlyssfulDreamer
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Don’t feel bad…I drove one too…except during the winter when it would never start. When I was almost crunched by an idiot going through a red light and I saw how very little protection I had…I got a Chrysler and have had one ever since…LOL Funny thing…a lady I work with STILL has one…although i don’t know where she would even get parts if it broke down…That’d be like giving up a Cadillac for a Yugo.
Anyway…I converted at age 15 and was a faithful Catholic for many years…but somewhere along the way…I lost my way. Now I am a senior and I have been drawn back to the Church that I loved so much when I was but a teen. I believe it is the Holy Spirit who has worked through me and I am a daily Mass attendee and weekly adorer of the Holy Eucharist. What I regret are the many years that I have wasted and that are lost to me forever.
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Gottle_of_Geer
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Both the original editors of the “Catholic Dictionary” were converts, and both of them converted to Catholicism, then to other forms of Protestantism; one of them died Catholic.
Several conversions back from Catholicism followed Vatican I - those may be examples.Some of the Anglicans who converted in 1992 converted back.
So it does happen.
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MBS1
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I’ve always wondered how, if one truly embraces and understands the sacrament of the Eucharist, one could leave the Church. My theory is that those who leave never truly believed it, and became like the disciples in Jn 6z;66.
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Janet_S
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When I read this thread, I thought of something I read in the book, Surprised by Truth 2:
“Show me one Roman Catholic who has really understood his Faith, devoutly practiced it, loved the Church, and never dreamed of leaving it, yet who, through serious study, discovered that the Episcopal Church is in fact the one true Church, the Church that Jesus Christ established, the Church that has been entrusted with the fullness of Christ’s truth and means of grace, the Church that Jesus Christ has authorized to speak authoritatively and even infallibly in His name. Show me a Catholic like that who was therefore compelled by the direction of the Holy Spirit to enter the Episcopal Church. Show me just one Catholic convert to the Episcopal Church of whom all this is true.
I issue this challenge serenely, knowing it will never be met.”
–Fr Ray Ryland (Episcopal convert to the CC)
My parish priest says (from his experience) most people leave the CC because of Catholic individuals–not because of the Church itself. They usually leave because of hurt feelings, or they find that other Christian fellowships are more loving and are friendlier. This is really sad and unfortunate, and certainly we Catholics need to work on this.
Some other observations about why people (including Catholic converts) leave the CC and join other Christian denominations:
–Catholics don’t know their faith and many are already “mentally” Protestant (cafeteria Catholics), so it doesn’t matter to them what Church they belong to.
–Many Catholics struggle with the Church’s moral teachings, especially about divorce and remarriage (also homosexuality, cohabitation, and artificial birth control, too.) Often these are not issues at other churches.
“Show me one Roman Catholic who has really understood his Faith, devoutly practiced it, loved the Church, and never dreamed of leaving it, yet who, through serious study, discovered that the Episcopal Church is in fact the one true Church, the Church that Jesus Christ established, the Church that has been entrusted with the fullness of Christ’s truth and means of grace, the Church that Jesus Christ has authorized to speak authoritatively and even infallibly in His name. Show me a Catholic like that who was therefore compelled by the direction of the Holy Spirit to enter the Episcopal Church. Show me just one Catholic convert to the Episcopal Church of whom all this is true.
I issue this challenge serenely, knowing it will never be met.”
–Fr Ray Ryland (Episcopal convert to the CC)
My parish priest says (from his experience) most people leave the CC because of Catholic individuals–not because of the Church itself. They usually leave because of hurt feelings, or they find that other Christian fellowships are more loving and are friendlier. This is really sad and unfortunate, and certainly we Catholics need to work on this.
Some other observations about why people (including Catholic converts) leave the CC and join other Christian denominations:
–Catholics don’t know their faith and many are already “mentally” Protestant (cafeteria Catholics), so it doesn’t matter to them what Church they belong to.
–Many Catholics struggle with the Church’s moral teachings, especially about divorce and remarriage (also homosexuality, cohabitation, and artificial birth control, too.) Often these are not issues at other churches.
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jmcrae
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I read somewhere, and I wish I could remember where, that the majority of heresies begin between the legs - that is, when someone leaves the Catholic Church, their theological protestations are usually a cover for the fact that they: a) wanted to get divorced/remarried without the bother of going through the Tribunal, b) wanted to use birth control and/or get an abortion, or c) wanted to marry outside the faith.
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lak611
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I think a lot has to do with the reason why a person converted. If somebody only converted to please a spouse, he or she may end up going back to his/her original faith. RCIA candidates need to receive proper preparation, and the Church needs to make sure that people are not received into the Church if they really do not have faith and are just going through the motions in order to satisfy another person.
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water
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There are many cases like this where one spouse just wants to get married and later on later on in life they have problem with the faith. This too affects their children.
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