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[Rykell]

Trady,

No longer will I “nitpick” as you called it, for I am convinced that you are not open to listening … seeking to be “understood” rather than to “understand.” I have been all over the internet, seeing the heretical and calumnious teachings of traditional websites, and there are many! As long as you frequent them and absorb their insidious poison, there is little I can do to change your mind.

My sensitivity and respect for Holy Mother Church and her Ministers does not permit me to engage in further debates.
For the moment, there is only one thing that I will respond to.

What’s your point? By your “logic”, if a current or future Pope said that the new form for Baptism was, *“I wash you, in the name of the Pope, and the Bishops and Hahns Kuhn”, *that it would still be a valid Baptism because a Pope could not be bound by previous Popes.This is ludicrous.

Yes it is ludicrous to apply your flawed logic concerning so important a sacrament, because no Pope will ever authorize baptism in the name of another, but only in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit. We have the guarantee of infallibility with regard to this. With respect to liturgy, the Pope may approve changes, as specified in the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy. [see articles 36.2; 39; and 44]
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[TradyDaddy]

Trady,

No longer will I “nitpick” as you called it, for I am convinced that you are not open to listening … seeking to be “understood” rather than to “understand.” I have been all over the internet, seeing the heretical and calumnious teachings of traditional websites, and there are many! As long as you frequent them and absorb their insidious poison, there is little I can do to change your mind.

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I cited directly from the writings of Pope St. Pius V and from the Catholic Encyclopedia. Obviously, you consider Pope St. Pius V a heretical traditionalist. Good…, it points out how much Modernism (condemed by Pope Pius XI) has warped your understanding of Catholicism.

Earth to Catholics…there were Popes before John Paul II and guess what… they didn’t allow Buddha statues to be placed above the tabernacle and they didn’t kiss the Koran. Please start reading what they said about the errors of Modernism and Indifferentism. It will be painful at first because the truth can be painful, but it will (as the saying goes) set you free.

 

[palmas85]

I cited directly from the writings of Pope St. Pius V and from the Catholic Encyclopedia. Obviously, you consider Pope St. Pius V a heretical traditionalist. Good…, it points out how much Modernism (condemed by Pope Pius XI) has warped your understanding of Catholicism.

Earth to Catholics…there were Popes before John Paul II and guess what… they didn’t allow Buddha statues to be placed above the tabernacle and they didn’t kiss the Koran. Please start reading what they said about the errors of Modernism and Indifferentism. It will be painful at first because the truth can be painful, but it will (as the saying goes) set you free.

Very good points Trad.

It does seem that at times the only theology that has meaning these days is of the liberal variety. I wonder how much traditional Catholic teaching some people are willing to admit into their current modern view of theology and the Church?

 

[TradyDaddy]

Very good points Trad.

It does seem that at times the only theology that has meaning these days is of the liberal variety. I wonder how much traditional Catholic teaching some people are willing to admit into their current modern view of theology and the Church?

Thank you palmas. There is a very strange dicotomy going on in the current theological mindset.

On one hand, they have to constantly find ways to justify post Vatican II teachings that clearly contradict (or are, to say the least, at odds with) traditional teachings. In doing so, they generally portray the pre-Vatican II Church almost as a separate entity. Then, at the same time, they have to maintain that this new theology is somehow harmonious with tradition.

 

[Marian_Carroll]

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