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Lycorth
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Evading the question is not answering the question. Why do you not support cracking down on criminals and criminal culture?
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gamewell45
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Once you inject politics into the debate; you lose all credibility.
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HelenaMT
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I don’t have to think about this, but I choose to because I don’t want to be helpless in any situation. It’s always better to be prepared if you can be. I actually live in a relatively safe environment (though the occasional bear wanders into town from time to time…). Maybe if I were a man who could stand a chance with my bare hands or a baseball bat in an assault, I would feel differently. I don’t suffer from the Buffy delusion that all I need is a few good kicks and an assailant twice my size will hit the ground.Where ever you live, the fact that you have to think about this kind of thing, it sounds really, really, really dangerous.
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royal_archer
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Gun control is all about politics, disarming the people is a strategy used by the left to make the people subserviant to the government.
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Lycorth
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That is precisely it.
Gun control, on the political level, is no more about reducing gun crime than pro-abortion legislation is about protecting woman’s rights. Gun control, politically, is all about civil disarmament and civil dependence - as well as about reducing and eliminating civil ability to resist government tyranny.
Plenty of people will laugh at that last remark of mine and chalk it up to paranoia. They forget history and the reason why we have a country of our own instead of being a province of the British crown.
We will not repeat history.
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gamewell45
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Hence, which is why you can’t be taken seriously.
I know plenty of Democrats and Republican’s who are opposed to ownership of handguns; likwise the same goes for those not opposed to the same. Your tainted; you cannot look at this issue objectively.
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CPA2
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Ditto for you.
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anode
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Another reason to avoid Starbucks.
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royal_archer
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Have to result to personal attacks? Try giving me a logical arguement as to why you feel I am wrong.
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gamewell45
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Personal attack? Absolutely not. I fear that no matter what how hard I try to rationalize, if you perceive that its not coming from a “conservative” source, you’ll find a way to pick it apart no matter how rational it is. However you’ve helped me with an important decision.
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royal_archer
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There is a difference between rationalizing and using logic.
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Lycorth
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Indeed; there is nothing rational about disarming the innocent.
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Sophia86
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I wish guns had never been invented. Full stop.
Surely the idea of there being no violence, is better than potential violence, or as you put it “a bloodbath”.
No to mandatory revolvers, definitely
Surely the idea of there being no violence, is better than potential violence, or as you put it “a bloodbath”.
No to mandatory revolvers, definitely
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royal_archer
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Let us know when you get that cat back in the bag. untill then we need to know that peacefull people are the ones who are better armed.I wish guns had never been invented. Full stop.
Surely the idea of there being no violence, is better than potential violence, or as you put it “a bloodbath”.
No to mandatory revolvers, definitely
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Lycorth
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I wish Adam never bit the apple and that Eve never listened to the serpent.I wish guns had never been invented. Full stop.
Surely the idea of there being no violence, is better than potential violence, or as you put it “a bloodbath”.
No to mandatory revolvers, definitely
The cat is out of the bag, now. Burying our heads in the sand and wishing the problem of armed criminal violence away will not make it go away.
Until the Lord returns, the innocent must arm themselves against the wicked and defend each other.
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chriso
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You’ve not mentioned anything of a political nature in your comments?
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Sophia86
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Poor cat. I suppose you want to go and shoot that now too?
In all seriousness, people can not be trusted with having a permanent weapon by their side whether you coin them “peaceful” or not is irrelevant. Surely such a backward progression can only lead to increased violence in the world? What happened to make love not war? What happened to logic??
And before you mock the “love not war” comment, perhaps you should consider looking at fact - Here in the UK we have Gun control. Please tell me how many School Shootings have we had over the years?? And we certainly do not ignore criminal violence either, but Gun Crimes are low because they are not advocated as a sensible means of protection to the people in the first place. This is where you are going wrong.
Subsequently I do very much beg to differ with your logic. We are proof that not fixating on ownership of weapons, is the best way. You should try rethinking your ideals.
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See what I’ve written above. Violence only begets violence.
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Lycorth
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Logic? There is none in your post.
Sorry, but there is a marked difference between law-abiding people and criminal scum. You listen to the BBC too much.
Then again, even the BBC can’t hide the truth:
BBC: Handgun crime up despite ban
Not all Brits are so convinced of the need to keep the British people disarmed:
The Truth about Gun Control
Last time I checked, the UK is rife with violence - usually from immigrants.
Violence is not, and can not, be eliminated. Criminals can and must be controlled, and the law-abiding must be allowed to protect themselves.
Other countries have gun laws as free, if not freer, than the US. Just a few examples: Finland, Switzerland, New Zealand; one can get fully automatic weapons in the Czech Republic. None of these countries have rashes of gun violence, school shootings, or any such nonsense. To follow your argument, these countries should be bathing in blood shed by firearms. They are not.
No, you’re proof that British snobbery is still alive and well.
Think about that next time you have a Muslim riot.
Immaterial. Violence is amoral; self-defense is also violence, and justified by the Church. Your argument is not convincing.
As long as I live in a violent world I will be prepared to defend my life and the lives of my loved ones with violence. God help you the day your bubble is broken. I truly pity you.
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royal_archer
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Disarm, the criminals, gangs, politicians, police, foriegn and domestic militaries, etc, etc, etc, and then we can talk about law abiding citizens giving up their guns.
One of the reasons we coded the second ammendment was because of attrocities committed at the hands of the brittish.
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Lycorth
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I want to ask Sophia86 a question.
Sophia, do you support cracking down on criminals and criminal culture as a method of trying to curtail criminal violence? Banning that which glorifies criminal violence and suppressing those who make it their business to glorify and romanticize it?
I’m not trying to be hostile - I am asking honestly.
Sophia, do you support cracking down on criminals and criminal culture as a method of trying to curtail criminal violence? Banning that which glorifies criminal violence and suppressing those who make it their business to glorify and romanticize it?
I’m not trying to be hostile - I am asking honestly.
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