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sidbrown said:
Yes. Well, some of us are very much concerned with the safety of our teachers and administrators in schools, as we have read about the terrible tragedies and harm that come to those wonderful teachers and brave administrators. But it unfortunately appears from the response given above, that there are those who are too bored to give a thought to this serious problem which has hurt so many decent families across the United States.
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Actually I am bored with dealing with irrational arguements that have been addresses and dismissed time after time after time.
 
royal_archer said:
Actually I am bored with dealing with irrational arguements that have been addresses and dismissed time after time after time.
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Actually the arguments against having students bring loaded weapons to class are quite rational. I am sorry to hear that people are bored with the attempts to make sure that the classroom environment is safe for all. I think that our concern for social responsibility and charity toward our hard working teachers and administrators demands that we be concerned for their safety and well being.
 
sidbrown said:
Yes. Well, some of us are very much concerned with the safety of our teachers and administrators in schools, as we have read about the terrible tragedies and harm that come to those wonderful teachers and brave administrators. But it unfortunately appears from the response given above, that there are those who are too bored to give a thought to this serious problem which has hurt so many decent families across the United States.
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It’s not that we don’t care, we just aren’t buying into your paranoid delusions.
 
Well, I do think the teachers ought to be armed too…👍

I know we’re a bit off the mainstream world some of you live in being up here in alaska and all, but my daughters sixth grade teacher took the class on a field trip and I told him she wasnt allowed to go unless he, or at least one of the parents on the trip, was armed. He assured me he was, and I let her go along… 👍👍👍
 
wabrams said:
It’s not that we don’t care, we just aren’t buying into your paranoid delusions.
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I don’t consider it to be a delusion if someone is concerned about the safety and well being of teachers.
 
chriso said:
That’d be me! I’m in favor of teachers carrying too!!!🙂
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Actually… I might have to retract that opinion… my sister in law is a teacher and she’s mean as a snake, the more that I think about it, it might not be a good idea to arm her! 👍 (oops! gotta go, the penance for saying that is gonna hurt!) 😃
 
chriso said:
That’d be me! I’m in favor of teachers carrying too!!!🙂
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A principal was stabbed recently at a Catholic high school and ended up in the hospital. Here’s his picture and story.
cbs2.com/local/Stabbing.Don.Bosco.2.1429512.html
What would have happened if the student was armed with a machine gun and not a knife?
And I noticed that the airline companies around the world do not consider it to be so safe for everyone to carry a loaded gun on board. But why should that be? It couldn’t be becasue it would put everyone on board the flight in danger could it?
IF you are going to prevent people from arming themselves with loaded weapons on airline flights, then it only makes sense to do the same thing in schools. This is not paranoia or delusion. This is for the safety and well being of all concerned.
 
sidbrown said:
A principal was stabbed recently at a Catholic high school and ended up in the hospital. Here’s his picture and story.
cbs2.com/local/Stabbing.Don.Bosco.2.1429512.html
What would have happened if the student was armed with a machine gun and not a knife?
And I noticed that the airline companies around the world do not consider it to be so safe for everyone to carry a loaded gun on board. But why should that be? It couldn’t be becasue it would put everyone on board the flight in danger could it?
IF you are going to prevent people from arming themselves with loaded weapons on airline flights, then it only makes sense to do the same thing in schools. This is not paranoia or delusion. This is for the safety and well being of all concerned.
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You are making an assumption that the government can keep guns and knives out of schools. If the government cannot keep drugs out of maximum security prisons, how do you propose that government keep knives and guns out of schools? If there is no concealed carry at government schools, who will stop the murderer?
 
CPA2 said:
You are making an assumption that the government can keep guns and knives out of schools. If the government cannot keep drugs out of maximum security prisons, how do you propose that government keep knives and guns out of schools? If there is no concealed carry at government schools, who will stop the murderer?
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Because of the bribery and corruttion that exists in the prison system today, there is a benefit for the prison guards to allow the importation of drugs. There is no benefit for school guards to allow students to arm themselves with machine guns, so the situation is not comparable.
 
sidbrown said:
Because of the bribery and corruttion that exists in the prison system today, there is a benefit for the prison guards to allow the importation of drugs. There is no benefit for school guards to allow students to arm themselves with machine guns, so the situation is not comparable.
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Well, nobody was talking about arming with machine guns anyway, this kind of overexageration is exactly what leads to the decay of credibility of many from the anti-guns crowd. Furthermore, if that stabbed person from the Catholic school had been armed and trained themselves, maybe the stabbing wouldnt have taken place. But then again, maybe it would have. According to statistics, even when armed, something like 90% of us would still seccumb to the average knife attack. Situational awareness and caution are the largest part of any defence class I’ve ever read of or participated in… shotting is always the last resort. If more folks had this kind of common sense training, and carried / owned guns, I believe the world would be a safer place.
 
sidbrown said:
Because of the bribery and corruttion that exists in the prison system today, there is a benefit for the prison guards to allow the importation of drugs. There is no benefit for school guards to allow students to arm themselves with machine guns, so the situation is not comparable.
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Is your assumption that there are no bribes and corruption in government schools? I do not like that you just make up assumptions as you go along! Where is the proof for all of these assumptions? You have never given us any proof or research to back up your claims. You never give us real life examples. I find your arguments very superficial on this thread and on your support of socialism.

Remember that police make very little money. Some students, on the other hand, sell drugs and make lots of money. If you are going to have the police watch the students, then you will need someone to watch the police. Remember New Orleans and hurricane Katrina. Many of the criminals wore a uniform.
 
chriso said:
Well, I do think the teachers ought to be armed too…👍

I know we’re a bit off the mainstream world some of you live in being up here in alaska and all, but my daughters sixth grade teacher took the class on a field trip and I told him she wasnt allowed to go unless he, or at least one of the parents on the trip, was armed. He assured me he was, and I let her go along… 👍👍👍
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But what if a student does not turn their home work in on time or the kids talk during class and the teacher, possessed by the demon weapon, mows down the entire class???:rolleyes:
 
sidbrown said:
I don’t consider it to be a delusion if someone is concerned about the safety and well being of teachers.
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Sorry I misse the thread where you also wanted to ban college students from carrying scissors and sharp pencils and driving to class. And of course I also missed the thread where you wanted to ban physically large students from the class room because they also could harm teachers.
 
sidbrown said:
A principal was stabbed recently at a Catholic high school and ended up in the hospital. Here’s his picture and story.
cbs2.com/local/Stabbing.Don.Bosco.2.1429512.html
What would have happened if the student was armed with a machine gun and not a knife?
And I noticed that the airline companies around the world do not consider it to be so safe for everyone to carry a loaded gun on board. But why should that be? It couldn’t be becasue it would put everyone on board the flight in danger could it?
IF you are going to prevent people from arming themselves with loaded weapons on airline flights, then it only makes sense to do the same thing in schools. This is not paranoia or delusion. This is for the safety and well being of all concerned.
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A shared paranoid delusion is still a paranoid delusion.

FYI a knife is a much more effective weapon in close range fighting. with a machine gun it is too easy for someone to grab the barrel and disable the shooter.

FYI no airline has ever asked that I not bring weapons on board or checked that I was not bringing weapons on board. The Government does…and 9-11 was the result.
 
sidbrown said:
I don’t consider it to be a delusion if someone is concerned about the safety and well being of teachers.
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If you are serious about this, I presume you have moved to a country that has banned it’s subjects from defending themselves. Right?
 
royal_archer said:
A shared paranoid delusion is still a paranoid delusion.

FYI a knife is a much more effective weapon in close range fighting. with a machine gun it is too easy for someone to grab the barrel and disable the shooter.

FYI no airline has ever asked that I not bring weapons on board or checked that I was not bringing weapons on board. The Government does…and 9-11 was the result.
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In fact, pilots were not even permitted to defend their own airplanes. I guess the government feared that if the pilots were armed, they might hijack their own airplanes.

[Does that sound *tupid? Or what?]
 
Monte_RCMS said:
In fact, pilots were not even permitted to defend their own airplanes. I guess the government feared that if the pilots were armed, they might hijack their own airplanes.

[Does that sound *tupid? Or what?]
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If you think the motive is to prevent hijackings, it is stupid. However if they have an alterior motive it may make sense.
 
CPA2 said:
Is your assumption that there are no bribes and corruption in government schools? I do not like that you just make up assumptions as you go along! Where is the proof for all of these assumptions? You have never given us any proof or research to back up your claims. You never give us real life examples. I find your arguments very superficial on this thread and on your support of socialism.

Remember that police make very little money. Some students, on the other hand, sell drugs and make lots of money. If you are going to have the police watch the students, then you will need someone to watch the police. Remember New Orleans and hurricane Katrina. Many of the criminals wore a uniform.
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You don’t like assumptions? Then why are you making the assumption that many of the criminals are wearing a uniform. Where is your proof of that?
 
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