Ridiculous looking outfit at daily Mass today! Maybe a dress code WOULD be in order!

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Mandi…held accountable?

Do you seriously believe that when you stand before Jesus for judgement, He is going to “hold you accountable” for what you wear to Mass?

I think you should go back and spend a little more time in Scripture. I say this will all love and respect.

Somehow, I think Jesus will be more concerned with how we have treated each other, our genuine devotion and thanks for what He has done for us, how much and how well we have spread the Good News (that does not include rules on dress codes for attending Mass) and our general spiritual growth.
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The Catechism says:
#1832 The fruits of the Spirit are perfections that the Holy Spirit forms in us as the first fruits of eternal glory, The tradition of the Church lists twelve of them: “charity, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, generocity, gentleness, faithfulness, modesty, self-control, chastity.” (Gal 5:22-23)
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So I guess I would answer your question, “Do you seriously believe that when you stand before Jesus for judgement, He is going to “hold you accountable” for what you wear to Mass?” my answer would be “YES”. Just as He will judge me for all of my offenses. But I will be judged more severely for some offenses than you might because I did NOT follow my conscience, and you did.

Claiming “Jesus just wants to see me at Mass” as some have, is in my opinion, the easy way out… an excuse for not caring enough to do what is right and part of the rebelious side of all of us. These are MY opinions, lest I offend anybody.
 
It’s quite amazing to me how many people have an idea of how God will judge. They seem to claim they know the mind of God.

God will judge them perfectly as he is perfect. Self conceived notions seem to really show up.

I wonder what the answer would be 100 years ago. 200 years ago, etc…

Question I asked before. Aren’t we to be the temple of the Holy Spirit? Doesn’t the external reflect the internal. The respect we show to Jesus in the Eucharist and to others in the assembly is a reflection of our total being. ’

People dress better to go out for dinner than they do when experiencing the Miracle at Mass and receiving Jesus. Do we take Him for granted?
 
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Bizob:
I find myself being a bit judgmental sometimes. Personally, I try to find a balance between the “come as you are” message of Christ, and the whole reverence owed to the King of Kings and Lord of Lords (hallelujah hallelujah!) Messiah thing. .
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You bring up an important point. Anyone can come to Christ “as he is.” But we who attend Mass, who receive our Lord’s Precious Body and Blood, are members of the King’s household, we are (as they told us in RCIA) the “initiated” – those who know better, those privileged to assist at the Holy Mysteries.
 
I try not to be critical of the clothes people wear to Mass, as I have only 2 nice skirts and one blouse which I switch back and forth each week. I understand it isn’t always easy for some people to afford nice clothes. BUT…I was very unhappy when I saw a young girl going up to receive communion in a skin tight T-shirt with the words “Made Ya Look!” across the chest! She was at the age where she was just starting to develop. I do not know what her parents were thinking letting her wear that shirt to Mass…or anywhere else for that matter! 😦
 
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buffalo:
It’s quite amazing to me how many people have an idea of how God will judge. They seem to claim they know the mind of God.

God will judge them perfectly as he is perfect.
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I guess you would number yourself in that group!!!

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Dear bonica,
Unfortunately, many parents are simply asleep on the job these days. But, maybe that’s the subject for another thread all together…
 
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buffalo:
People dress better to go out for dinner than they do when experiencing the Miracle at Mass and receiving Jesus. Do we take Him for granted?
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I think that might be part of the problem. People don’t dress up for anything any more. I can’t remember the last secular thing I had to dress up for asecular event. We had dinner with my husband’s boss. It was a VERY casual affair. My niece will be getting married soon and I believe I can say with almost certainly it will be a very ‘come as you are wedding.’

Now of course this is my little corner of the world. Others here might move in the kind of social circles where dressing up for events is more commonplace.

A lot of nice clothes, especially for women…is a joke. Either they are immodest or just don’t fit because someone out there has a skewed idea of the bodies of ‘real’ women and what would be comfortable for us to wear…which unfortuantely is one of the reasons I dress casual nice to church at the moment. I went all over town looking for a simply black skirt that fit. Could I find one? NO! :mad: They were either the wrong size, or cut strangely with a slit her or there or what I call ‘hippified’ too long skirts. I’m very short and they look ridiculous on me … :mad: I did manage to find a pair of nice black dress pants that I wear to church sometimes…and yes…I tried the thrift stores. Those are ususally the first places I look.

I suppose I should just keep on looking…it does tend to get discouraging at times…

dream wanderer
 
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WhiteDove:
Well, I don’t think bad taste is a sin,and one’s taste in dress is very subjective, but as soon as I saw that black bra strap sliding down her shoulder I thought of all my opinionated friends at Catholic Answers Forum!!! 😃

I know this is the ‘left coast’ and all, but people sure do dress casually these days… :cool: All you dress police will be happy to hear that I bring a change of clothes to work and change out of my nursing scrubs (Which are also incredibly casual these days) I did bring a nice pair of shorts one day. :o
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**Your visual of that woman’s outfit gave me a much needed smile today! **
BTW, wearing your scrubs to daily Mass is cool:cool: . No problem with that, at all, and now one else should have a problem with it, either. If they do, they need to get a life!
PS…Do you really think this woman was totally unaware of how she looked? Good grief!
 
Earlier on this thread someone mentioned that it was perhaps uncharitable to notice the EMHC’s costume. But the EMHC isn’t just someone with limited social awareness who shows up at Mass. She is performing a public ministry on behalf of the Church. I think it’s fair to expect people who accept the privilege of service to be sufficiently self-aware and socially conscious to exercise the office in a way that respects both the office and the people who are served. My :twocents: .
 
dream wanderer:
I think that might be part of the problem. People don’t dress up for anything any more. I can’t remember the last secular thing I had to dress up for asecular event. We had dinner with my husband’s boss. It was a VERY casual affair. My niece will be getting married soon and I believe I can say with almost certainly it will be a very ‘come as you are wedding.’

Now of course this is my little corner of the world. Others here might move in the kind of social circles where dressing up for events is more commonplace.

A lot of nice clothes, especially for women…is a joke. Either they are immodest or just don’t fit because someone out there has a skewed idea of the bodies of ‘real’ women and what would be comfortable for us to wear…which unfortuantely is one of the reasons I dress casual nice to church at the moment. I went all over town looking for a simply black skirt that fit. Could I find one? NO! :mad: They were either the wrong size, or cut strangely with a slit her or there or what I call ‘hippified’ too long skirts. I’m very short and they look ridiculous on me … :mad: I did manage to find a pair of nice black dress pants that I wear to church sometimes…and yes…I tried the thrift stores. Those are ususally the first places I look.

I suppose I should just keep on looking…it does tend to get discouraging at times…

dream wanderer
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OK. I’m going a little off topic. But I have found that for someone with a figure that doesn’t match the commercial offerings, if you can afford it – and it often costs less than the designer stuff in department stores – it can be worth it to have a dressmaker make you a good black skirt in a 4-season fabric. If it looks good on you, you’ll wear it 4 days a week, it will never be boring, and the per-wearing cost can be less than something cheaper that you buy, wear once, and never look at again. If you pay $150 for something you wear 150 times – well, you do the math! This suggestion, BTW is not from Mrs. Gotrocks, it is from someone who also stalks the thrift shops.
 
Nice people always refrain from comments about any woman’s figure except to be truly and sincerely complimentary. They never mention female anatomy or its coverings.
Yes, some people do talk about those topics but those are not nice people. In what category do YOU want to to be classified.
 
I’m all for the notes on the parish bulletin that remind people how to dress for Mass; it may not work for all parishioners, but it has to cut down on some of he inappropriate outfits. Gives us parents some additional ammunition with our children too. On the other hand, adults who dress inappropriately for Mass discourage our children from making the effort. Apart from gentle reminders, that’s about all that can be done with “offending” the sensibilities of most parishioners.
 
Today (SUNDAY) I noticed a young woman (probably in her mid-to-late twenties–NOT a teenager!) wearing short khaki shorts, a red tank top with spaghetti straps with white undergarment straps exposed. Her top didn’t quite make it to her hip-hugger shorts, so a well-tanned exposure of skin was revealed between the top and bottoms, too.

She was laughing and chatting after exiting Mass while walking down the sidewalk holding hands with her boyfriend/husband(?)

I was waiting in my vehicle for my kids to leave Mass. I’d been to an earlier Mass, since my baby was sick in the night. I could hardly believe my eyes. This woman looked like she was ready for the beach. And definitely old enough to know better.

I thought it was a pretty sad commentary, even though she looked good, compared to the EMHC described above.

Pax Christi. <><
 
Dear Roemer,
Nice people always refrain from discussing other people’s figures, good or bad? Isn’t that a broad generalization? It would be the same as me saying, “nice people don’t wear sultry clothes to Mass” or “nice people don’t stuff their faces with junk food and get fat”, or “nice people don’t critique other people’s manners”. Sorry, IMO, life isn’t that simple. Actually some very nice people do all of the above.
 
one of my earliest memories of church was sitting in our regular pew next to an older lady who always wore a fur stole, the kind made out of the head and paws of some little critters, so there was always one little fox or mink or whatever staring right at me all during Mass, for some reason it really helped me behave. I am probably scarred for life, and no, I have never and will never own a fur.
 
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roemer:
Nice people always refrain from comments about any woman’s figure except to be truly and sincerely complimentary. They never mention female anatomy or its coverings.
Yes, some people do talk about those topics but those are not nice people. In what category do YOU want to to be classified.
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Thank you for raising the standard. It’s old-fashioned good advice.

Betsy
 
In the Family Life forum, there is a poll on the topic of whether figure comments are polite or not.
 
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roemer:
Nice people always refrain from comments about any woman’s figure except to be truly and sincerely complimentary. They never mention female anatomy or its coverings.
Yes, some people do talk about those topics but those are not nice people. In what category do YOU want to to be classified.
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One does NOT have to have any kind of faith or religion to be “nice.” However, if one stands up for the true teachings of the Church, one is not all the time going to be viewed as being “nice” all the time by our secular culture. If saying the truth about MODESTY, (as the New Catechism of the Catholic Church does) is viewed by some as “not being nice”, well than so be it I guess.
 
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misericordie:
One does NOT have to have any kind of faith or religion to be “nice.” However, if one stands up for the true teachings of the Church, one is not all the time going to be viewed as being “nice” all the time by our secular culture. If saying the truth about MODESTY, (as the New Catechism of the Catholic Church does) is viewed by some as “not being nice”, well than so be it I guess.
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I believe that the point roemer was trying to make was not that comments on immodesty are not nice, but merely comments about, say, which direction the poor woman’s breasts point. I don’t think anyone on here would argue that that is “nice”.

My problem with this whole thread is this: CLEARLY we have a problem with casual and immodest dress in church. Clearly something needs to be done about it. However, us sitting around and poking fun at this woman behind her back is not really doing anything about it. It’s fairly fruitless. If you really have a problem with immodest dress, ask your priest to adress it in his homilies! Write an entry in your parish bulletin, or if that’s not allowed, ask the priest to do it! Set a good example yourselves! And not just in your dress, for someone who wears a nice dress to Mass and then points and laughs at those who don’t (just an example) would not exactly make anyone want to be like the lady in the dress. Lead by example in your dress, but make the outside truly reflect the inside! And above all, PRAY!!! Pray that these poor women will understand the mistake they’re making, pray that our brothers will not fall into sin when looking at them, pray for an increase in the virtue of chastity, etc.

Long story short, I think it is truly fruitless to just sit around and share a laugh at this woman’s expense. I don’t think Jesus laughs when he looks at her, and neither should we,. I’m sorry, but funny does not trump mean.

My two cents,
jp2fan
 
Well, the woman offered the Prescious Blood to anyone who was properly disposed to receive it. Perhaps she was not properly attired, but that is a judgement call. What is important is what she was doing and how she was doing it; not what she was wearing, or her physical appearance.

Whenever I receive the Sacrament, either from a priest or an EM, what is important to me is that there is sufficient reverence and some form of personal contact. If there is eye contact, or a monent of connection, it matters little what they are wearing.

I do think that we should be dressed respectively for Mass. However, I don’t think we should waste any time giving consideration to the attire of others. We all come to Mass for the same purpose; to worship God and receive Him in communion with one another. This inchudes the entire assembly, regardless of how they are dressed.

Pax et Bonum!
 
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