Ridiculous looking outfit at daily Mass today! Maybe a dress code WOULD be in order!

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WhiteDove:
Well, I don’t think bad taste is a sin,and one’s taste in dress is very subjective, but as soon as I saw that black bra strap sliding down her shoulder I thought of all my opinionated friends at Catholic Answers Forum!!! 😃

I know this is the ‘left coast’ and all, but people sure do dress casually these days… :cool: All you dress police will be happy to hear that I bring a change of clothes to work and change out of my nursing scrubs (Which are also incredibly casual these days) I did bring a nice pair of shorts one day. :o
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THIS IS THE BEST threah ever here. LOL, this does not surprise me anymore, this is happening in many parishes all over Catholic Churches in the USA, it is because people have lost faith that Christ is really present in the tabernacle, and that the Mass is the Holy Eucharistic SACRIFICE, not just a “meal”. I choose where I go to Mass very carefully, so I avoid seeing that, within the last year or so.
 
Panis - Interesting question. Maybe both of you however it brings to mind how often I have said young girls who dress scantily can cause men to have an occasion of sin. So this begs the question, that do people who otherwise dress inappropriately, especially those attending to the altar and EMHC’s, cause the rest of us to have an occasion of sin too?

Also while there is no dress code for the NOM that I can find, there is one for EMHC’s - I believe it is modest and neat. That’s not too specific however.

I think those raised in a Catholic school have a definite idea of what constitutes modest (how low the neck, how long the hem, etc.) but with half the women in the country (maybe more) running around in public with so much exposed, anything more may be considered modest by the wearer - who knows. But one has to think that people who dress offensively or sloppily, do not mean to offend us or the Lord in Church and do not think they are, or they wouldn’t do it, right?
 
Dear DeoGratias,
It wasn’t the size of that woman’s breasts that was the problem, but the skimpy tight tank top that showed everything, including her black bra straps sliding down her shoulders. And, she definitely didn’t have Alzhiemers. I’m one that doesn’t think old age automatically excuses bad behaviour, btw, although I more view this woman’s attire as bad taste. Anyways, so sorry you found my post offensive.

Did you know that St Theresa of Avila told her nuns to never be offended! I think that’s very good advise and especially important in a forum such as this where one is exposed to many different opinions and it’s so easy to misinterpert another’s posts. Something for us all to keep in mind here, I believe. 🙂
 
It was the following remark that I found uncharitable and well, rather crude.
“She was a very large breasted woman, but unfortunately, they were so far south that they’d almost reached Antartica!.”
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I don’t see that I said I was offended anywhere in my post, but I did say I thought the comment was uncharitable. I wonder if St. Theresa would find it charitable.

But you are correct that forums have varied opinions and this is mine.
 
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deogratias:
I don’t know how old White Dove is but what I found rather offensive was her remarks about the woman’s breasts -.
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Here is your statement, apparently you did find it offensive.

I’m sure that I would not live up to St Theresa’s standards by a long shot, but I doubt very much if she would approve of that woman’s dress! :eek:

God Bless! :blessyou:
 
I guess saying I found the remark offensive translates to my being personally offended in which case - I must be and I to would not live up to St. Theresa’s standards about this or many things.

Again, I agree the dress was inappropriate but the remark about her breasts was unnecessary - They would have “hung” in the same position had she been dressed any other way and it probably is not her choice that they do so.

I suppose the comment was made with some levity but I do not see it as appropriate in a public forum. I think we should end this now.
 
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WhiteDove:
Dear DeoGratias,
It wasn’t the size of that woman’s breasts that was the problem, but the skimpy tight tank top that showed everything, including her black bra straps sliding down her shoulders. And, she definitely didn’t have Alzhiemers. I’m one that doesn’t think old age automatically excuses bad behaviour, btw, although I more view this woman’s attire as bad taste. Anyways, so sorry you found my post offensive.

Did you know that St Theresa of Avila told her nuns to never be offended! I think that’s very good advise and especially important in a forum such as this where one is exposed to many different opinions and it’s so easy to misinterpert another’s posts. Something for us all to keep in mind here, I believe. 🙂
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I totally agree with you WhiteDove, not only about what you mention regarding clothing in church, etc, but about the posts in general. I guess some people are just overlly sensitive, and feel the need to Constantly correct. Lack of humility I guess?
 
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deogratias:
It was the following remark that I found uncharitable and well, rather crude.

I don’t see that I said I was offended anywhere in my post, but I did say I thought the comment was uncharitable. I wonder if St. Theresa would find it charitable.

But you are correct that forums have varied opinions and this is mine.
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White Dove was just trying to get a point accross, lets not be like the political left who are always being so politically correct, that they fail to make concrete points about points which need to be made. WhiteDove, I was not at all offended by what you wrote here, actually, you DID NOT mention any specific names, but used one example to make your point. I found it funny actually:rotfl: :rotfl: :tiphat:
 
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deogratias:
They would have “hung” in the same position had she been dressed any other way and it probably is not her choice that they do so.
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Quite the contrary. For under $10, Walmart offers a wide selection of “support systems.”
Fully endowed women know that they’re fully endowed.
She may not be that way by choice, but after oh, 50 or 60 years of having a full bust, this lady surely should understand that a tight white top (with a blackundergarment) isn’t in anyone’s best interests…
A good supportive undergarment and a loose-fitting top is certainly a wiser wardrobe choice.
(I once saw such a woman ~ thank heavens, not at Mass! ~ proudly wearing a green fishnet tank top and NO undergarment. I still have nightmares. What in heaven was she thinking?!!! :bigyikes: )

Well, let’s all just say a prayer for both these ladies…

May God give them the gift of modesty in their senior years.

Pax Christi. <><
 
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deogratias:
Again, I agree the dress was inappropriate but the remark about her breasts was unnecessary - They would have “hung” in the same position had she been dressed any other way and it probably is not her choice that they do so.

I suppose the comment was made with some levity but I do not see it as appropriate in a public forum. I think we should end this now.
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Annunciata said:
Re: May I go to Daily Mass in shorts?
I wore shorts to church once…

It was a very hot day , 95 degrees and my AC died, I had recently lost my job had been widowed a few months earlier and was left w/ very little. I was having very desperate thoughts that scarred me right out of my house and next door to church. Well I frantically threw myself in front of the Tabernacle on my knees…suddenly a ‘nice’ lady w/ a mantilla atop her head, who also had been making a visit, sought to admonish me for my scant attire and said to me,“don’t you realize that you are offending the Blessed Mother”. I just looked at her and cried…she walked away and never even asked why…just more concerned w/ telling me for what!! So who was right and who was wrong? BTW I always dress up for Mass and never left the house dressed that way…considering the circumstances what else was I to do? When we are desparate, sometimes we don’t think… Judge not, lest ye be judged.🙂
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At the risk of repeating myself … My point, nobody knows what that woman’s real circumstances were…she may have been mentally impaired, or eccentric …? :twocents: Annunciata
 
I think one of the most offensive things is the current fashions of teen-age girls, especially the tops they wear. They expose half of their back, and they are continually pulling them down. They should wear something more appropriate. They’re not out on a date.
 
Dear Annuncianata,
You make a good point about not knowing where people are coming from on a particular day. I try to remember that especially when driving or when a clerk is curt at the store. That person who cut you off in traffic might well have been on their way to the ICU to take their beloved Mom off life support. That cranky clerk might have just had to bail her son out of jail for the 3d time.

I have a feeling that lady was on her way to a picnic by the river… As I said though, she looked like a nice lady, I have nothing against her, but her outfit was really hilarious looking and made me want to laugh out loud. 😃 It definately got me to thinking about this whole issue of appropriate dress at daily Mass.
 
Dear Panis Angelicus,
I’m not a large breasted woman, but if I were that lady I would buy the best bra I could find and not wear skimpy tank tops that don’t cover my bra adequately. It could be, though, that her washing machine was broken and she was down to her last outfit? I know when clothes are piled up I sometimes have to scrounge for something to wear… :o

I don’t think I would have noticed this lady much if she were not dispensing the precious blood. It definately made her stand out.
 
Good Morning Church

Oh my Gosh! This reminds me of something I haven’t thought about in years.
When My youngest son was just starting his senior year in High School he fell out of the back of our pickup truck (he was at the dump unloading a huge load of trash). He drove himself home and right away, I could tell by his color and other symptoms he was seriously hurt.
We owned a ranch in Southern California, it was September and extremely hot. I had been bathing horses and doing heavy cleaning and to say I was in my “grubbies” is an understatement. I was definately in shorts and probably a tank or tee of some sort but surely dirty.
As it turned out, we rushed my son to the emergency to find out he had a sliced spleen and was bleeding badly, big time. After the doctor spent ten minutes praying with us, my son was in emergency surgery. It was a horrible night, we were told he was very critical but by morning things were looking better.
On my way home I wanted to go to our daily Mass to thank God my son survived and to pray for him.
I didn’t even think about how I looked. I was exhausted, stressed and very fearful. This still is one of the worst moments of my life.
I am forever grateful, Father didn’t ask me to help serve.
I must have looked disgraceful.
 
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davy39:
I think one of the most offensive things is the current fashions of teen-age girls, especially the tops they wear. They expose half of their back, and they are continually pulling them down. They should wear something more appropriate. They’re not out on a date.
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Yes, a teenage relative of mine recently wore a t-shirt that said something about “Mary’s Melons – always firm, always fresh, etc.” – not at Mass though. I should’ve taken a picture of it so I could embarrass her about it in 10 years when the melons are no longer as firm and fresh.
 
Panis Angelicas:
And saddened by my own inability to filter it out and focus on the Sacred!
I wondered, who truly displeases God: this server, or me?
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I was just about to give up on this thread. I have not read any further than this quote.

This is the truth of it all!!! Who displeases God??? This thread seem a bit judgemntal. I think appropriate dress should be worn at ALL times, even at Mass. But we should not be judging or ridculing (behind their backs no less) those who do not dress appropriately.

Bless you Panis Angelicas for being able to see your own faults.
🙂 Lilder
 
What ever happened to “Your body being a Temple for the Holy Spirit?”
 
Dear Folks,
This thread was meant as a light hearted examination of dress at daily Mass, based on a funny looking outfit that I saw there the other day. I notice that some folks are not appreciating my warped sense of humor, and for that I apologize. Folks are saying that I’m talking behind this woman’s back, etc. Now I disagree, since, for one thing, I don’t know this lady personally, no one else here knows her, and the likelihood of her reading this thread is highly remote.

I, for one, am not one of these really strict folks about dress at Mass, and try and tune these things out, for the most part. This woman, however, was extremely noticable with her black bra strap and all. It was just one of those things that brought home the casualness of our age, even among the AARP crowd. As I said, she looked like a nice gal.

Some are saying that I’m being ‘uncharitable’. In fact, I notice in these forums that that term is used quite a bit. I think it’s overused, IMO, by some who themselves are being judgemental over small matters, but who am I to say so? It is a possiblity, though, that some folks are also being judgemental, all the while accusing someone else of the self same crime.

God Bless everyone and don’t forget to be slow to judge another poster on these forums. Let’s not forget another overused, but applicable verse about removing the plank from our own eye before taking the speck out of our neighbor, especially before we give them a negative feedback and hurt their reputation…

🙂
 
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lilder:
I was just about to give up on this thread. I have not read any further than this quote.

This is the truth of it all!!! Who displeases God??? This thread seem a bit judgemntal. I think appropriate dress should be worn at ALL times, even at Mass. But we should not be judging or ridculing (behind their backs no less) those who do not dress appropriately.

Bless you Panis Angelicas for being able to see your own faults.
🙂 Lilder
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I find myself being a bit judgmental sometimes. Personally, I try to find a balance between the “come as you are” message of Christ, and the whole reverence owed to the King of Kings and Lord of Lords (hallelujah hallelujah!) Messiah thing. So, I end up wearing a T-shirt and jeans to daily Mass, and a shirt with a collar and slacks on Sunday. Not that Mass on Sunday is more important, but, I dunno, it seems a little different.

For a long time my friend would only wear a suit to Mass. Which is highly commendable. However one Saturday morning, he and I were going to spend time the rest of the day serving the poor in the city. So we went to Mass dressed appropriately for being with homeless guys in Philadelphia. It felt totally right to be at Mass, being strengthed for our work, and not wearing ties. I always try to remember that kind of thing, if I find myself getting a little to huffy.
 
Greetings Church,
Greetings White Dove

All I can say is that you need to broaden your reading materials.
For your information, I have seen the exact, same outfit you saw this lady wearing in my AARP magazine. It came in several color choices. You could also get a purple satin and leopard print bra.

If you look on the same page, there are some very cute wash off (eventually) temporary tattoos. If you look really close, this lady may have had these as well.

I don’t think she got the shoes from AARP, though. From your description, I think they were ordered from the VFW magazine.

I think she may be a shut-in who does a lot of shopping by mail order.

**WHITE DOVE, **I don’t understand what you don’t like about shut-ins who buy through mail order. Well, although I think I did read that these folks are much more prone to liturgical abuses. Hmmm.
 
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