As said earlier, if atheists want to be free from the mention of religion in public life they can move. If some nut wants to establish some kind of catholic “sharia”, they can move as well; America is a Protestant nation.I don’t understand your point.
Okay, yes the USA was founded by (mostly) Protestants. But does that mean that acts should be criminalized or not based on whether Protestants regard them as sinful?Then if your for governmental control of m_ YOU move. America was founded by Protestants.
Protestantism in America is millions strong and every one of them keeps an Armalite under the bed. Catholic urbanites trying to enforce a m_ ban in the Protestant rural areas would be a pathetic joke.Laws against personal sin would cause witch hunts again and some would take it upon themselves hunt down and expose any that they can for all sins - I think some here would really like that - we would be back to outcasts from society - basically what happens in some Islamic countries. Should we take people out and stone them again too? If you even look at a woman the wrong way - your guilty of breaking one of the commandments according to Jesus words in the Gospel. How many of us men are guilty of that?
God is not about punishment and punishing people.
God is about showing mercy as he has showed us mercy , letting other know of that great mercy and that God is always ready to show mercy to all.
How many of us were in need of God’s mercy. God will also judge us by whats in our hearts - be careful!. Standing in judgement is not a good place to be unless you yourself are perfect.
No Catholics don’t want to invade privacy or force their will on the Protestant nation - we just happen to have a few people who think they are perfect and have forgotten the great mercy God has shown them or never experienced it and want to judge others. I am sure there are a few Protestants like that too. We need to remind them of the mercy of God and that it is not about punishing people.Huh, so Catholics want to invade privacy and force their will on Protestant nations. The last time they did that I seem to recall a large number of ships sinking.
If you don’t like what is in the constitution, then you get like minded to change the constitution, otherwise like others have said, you have chaos.Who cares about the constitution? I don’t want laws against any of those things, and I’m sure many Americans wouldn’t either. If the courts or anyone is making sure they don’t happen, I’d support it.
Mary: I appreciate your point, but as a practical matter for running the country, making ALL mortal sins against the law is un-manageable. The only ones our country should worry about are those mortal sins which impact other people: murder, theft, etc.Because it’s a mortal sin if committed freely, deliberately and in full knowledge (according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which Saint Pope John Paul II said, “I put my Apostolic Authority on this work” -the Catechism)
Other mortal sins are against the law too,
Such as murder, theft,
If one dies unrepentant, or without confessing masturbation that was deliberate, freely committed and in full knowledge, that person dies in mortal sin and is doomed to be tortured in Hell for all eternity
The point the OP raised is, if mortal sins were declared against the law, it might discourage people from mortally sinning
If you mean some people who post on this website, then well that’s an extremely varied group so you’re probably right. But to echo what I told someone else, I just don’t worry too much about what this or that random person might happen to post anonymously on the internet. (If I did, I think I would literally never sleep because I was checking out websites.)Laws against personal sin would cause witch hunts again and some would take it upon themselves hunt down and expose any that they can for all sins - I think some here would really like that -
That’s the thing isn’t it? The US Constitution is basically never changed anymore.If you don’t like what is in the constitution, then you get like minded to change the constitution, otherwise like others have said, you have chaos.
Roper: So now you’d give the Devil benefit of law!Mary: I appreciate your point, but as a practical matter for running the country, making ALL mortal sins against the law is un-manageable. The only ones our country should worry about are those mortal sins which impact other people: murder, theft, etc.
God can handle the others…he doesn’t need our help.
My main point is in all my posts on this thread regardless of what ever else I implied is to remind people that God is about mercy not punishment and that is the message we should be preaching. I have spoken to people around me who do not practice religion and their big problem is they are focused on the punishment and are angry about it and it drives them away - we need to speak of God mercy not punishment if we are to draw these people over to Christ. Because that is what God offers all of us believers and non believers.If you mean some people who post on this website, then well that’s an extremely varied group so you’re probably right. But to echo what I told someone else, I just don’t worry too much about what this or that random person might happen to post anonymously on the internet. (If I did, I think I would literally never sleep because I was checking out websites.)
That IS why its important!That’s the thing isn’t it? The US Constitution is basically never changed anymore.
The only practical purpose I could see is that making it illegal might at least make the people who do it more subtle about it. Similarly, prostitution is illegal where I live. I’m sure it happens anyway; once in a while you’ll read that someone was busted for it. But I’ve never personally seen any sign of it. I consider this a good thing, as when I was young, single and lonely, there were times I might have given into that temptation had it been easier to do, and who knows what consequences might have ensued.Why on earth should m_. be a crime?
Has anyone ever gotten pregnant from it?
Has anyone ever caught a disease from themselves?
Has anyone used it to cheat their taxes?
Give themselves political asylum?
Absurd government over reach.
Changing the Constitution wasn’t easy in the old days either (I think the Lincoln movie a few years ago illustrated that pretty well) it just wasn’t as absurdly difficult as it would be now.That IS why its important!
It shouldn’t be easy to change the constitution…otherwise you’d have tyranny of a slight majority.
It seems to me that now some of the judges and justices just pretend that it implies what they wish it had said and base their rulings on that pretension. Legislators just pass laws and wait and see how the Constitution is reinterpreted.Changing the Constitution wasn’t easy in the old days either (I think the Lincoln movie a few years ago illustrated that pretty well) it just wasn’t as absurdly difficult as it would be now.
Exactly.It seems to me that now some of the judges and justices just pretend that it implies what they wish it had said and base their rulings on that pretension.
P. S. I did a little checking just now, and I was more or less right about that: there’s only been one amendment in the last 45 years, and that was actually an 18th century amendment that took over 200 years to get ratified!That’s the thing isn’t it? The US Constitution is basically never changed anymore.