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Mirror_Mirror
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That last statement, to me, is very disturbing.
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KathleenElsie
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A couple of years ago a doe committed suicide into the side of my car. She jumped a barrier and slammed into the right quarter panel $4000 and alot of hassle was the end result. You see the deer did not have insurance.
Last year another deer ran into the side door of my daughters van (can you say we live in the country?) another couple of thousand. I now advocate deer hunting.
OTOH I can understand when you say you “like” animals better then people. Animals don’t do things out of malice or on purpose to harm others. But, GOD tell us to love our fellow man and we need to remember that.
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phil8888
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I think people need to remember that animals are less important than human beings, and that if we start loving animals equally or more than people, then the world will be in a bad place.
My middle name is Francis and Francis of Assisi loved animals a lot, as he loved all of God’s creatures, but he didn’t put animals above people. Remember animals have sensitive souls, but we have rational souls, so we are more valuable.
I knew a lady who said she gets sad when she hears of an animal that is hurt or injured, etc. but would laugh if she saw a person get hurt. This is a flipped upsidedown morality.
My friend also told me a lot of vegetarians are also pro-abortion. how sad, they place the life of an animal who is not even aware of its own existence above a living human person. don’t do that, it’s bad.
My middle name is Francis and Francis of Assisi loved animals a lot, as he loved all of God’s creatures, but he didn’t put animals above people. Remember animals have sensitive souls, but we have rational souls, so we are more valuable.
I knew a lady who said she gets sad when she hears of an animal that is hurt or injured, etc. but would laugh if she saw a person get hurt. This is a flipped upsidedown morality.
My friend also told me a lot of vegetarians are also pro-abortion. how sad, they place the life of an animal who is not even aware of its own existence above a living human person. don’t do that, it’s bad.
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Joe_Kelley
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I recall a news story a couple of years back. A house caught fire in the night. The family dog carefully led each of the family members to safety before returning to rescue her own pups. It appears that even she recognized the right priorities.
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RobHom
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I think the zoo keepers in New Orleans deserve a medal. Not only did they do their job…but they showed that they had accepted responsibility for the animals that could not fare on their own. They went above and beyond, and should be considered “role models”.
I’m not a “tree hugger” or any other kind of extremist, but when it comes to my two dogs… I would go to extreme measures to protect or save one of them. I would probably risk my life to protect them.
Why would I do this? Simple. My dogs, both of them are my responsibility to care for. They have served my wife and I. I have two Toy Fox Terriers that weigh about 2.5 pounds and 4 pounds. The female may have saved my wife’s life a couple of years ago when she started barking and carrying on when she smelled smoke and saw sparks flying out of the heat vents late one night. She woke my wife up before the carpet caught fire.
My male, l…all 2.5 pounds of him traveled with me in my semi- for 8 years…and there were a number of times this little fellow let me know that there was someone too close to the truck by barking a warning or growling. He has served me well. He would be with me now except that I pull a chemical tanker, and its not a safe place for an animal as there are a number of chemicals that will kill a dog or other animal that don’t affect us.
He’s 11 now, and she is 10…and they are ours, and yes, they are like our children. It is our obligation to care for them and protect them as much as they protect us.
I think, that if the rest of the world took their responsibilities in general as seriously as those zoo keepers did, the world would be a far better place!!
I’m not a “tree hugger” or any other kind of extremist, but when it comes to my two dogs… I would go to extreme measures to protect or save one of them. I would probably risk my life to protect them.
Why would I do this? Simple. My dogs, both of them are my responsibility to care for. They have served my wife and I. I have two Toy Fox Terriers that weigh about 2.5 pounds and 4 pounds. The female may have saved my wife’s life a couple of years ago when she started barking and carrying on when she smelled smoke and saw sparks flying out of the heat vents late one night. She woke my wife up before the carpet caught fire.
My male, l…all 2.5 pounds of him traveled with me in my semi- for 8 years…and there were a number of times this little fellow let me know that there was someone too close to the truck by barking a warning or growling. He has served me well. He would be with me now except that I pull a chemical tanker, and its not a safe place for an animal as there are a number of chemicals that will kill a dog or other animal that don’t affect us.
He’s 11 now, and she is 10…and they are ours, and yes, they are like our children. It is our obligation to care for them and protect them as much as they protect us.
I think, that if the rest of the world took their responsibilities in general as seriously as those zoo keepers did, the world would be a far better place!!
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KathleenElsie
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Yes and I know how you feel.
But, if saving them meant that you had a very good chance of not living then who do you choose? I see this as that issue. My family would mourn if our companions died in a fire.
We have our birds (22 if them small and large) in a large bird room with easy entrance to their cages and the dogs (3 of them) would be the first out the door if at all possible. The lizards and toads are another situation and probably would not be very high on my priority list. Of all the animals they would be that last out. We had a barn fire years ago and some of our rabbits were exposed to the smoke and flames. We took those that we could get to without injuring ourselves to the vet (smoke inhalation) and spent the money to try to save them (this IMHO is expected and normal) but no one was asked to enter a burning building to get them out. People come first.
But, if you or my husband died trying to save animals, then who would be the bread winner and protector of the family? If your wife or I died while trying to save them who then takes care of the home? If badly injured while saving the animals who pays the bills and cares for the family? The issue is not black and white.
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DebChris
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Professional rescuers are taught to first consider their own safety. It does no good to try to save another person if I endanger myself in the process resulting in two deaths instead of one. This same idea could be used when it comes to saving animals. It is unwise and imprudent to intentionnally risk my life to save the life of another.
There are unseen dangers in many aspects of our life. A firefighter cannot necessarily predict a back blast that will take both his life and the life he was trying to save. Lifeguards are taught to use other means of rescue before swimming toward a drowning victim. Sometimes instinct and adenaline overtake training and reason.
Workers risk their lives daily to provide coal to heat our homes. A person can be thrown from a horse or killed in a car accident on the way to work.
What a person looks at is the calculated risk involved. There is nothing wrong, in other words, with trying to rescue the animals of Katrina or a farmer running into his burning barn to rescue the animals trapped inside. We are called to stewardship of this earth.
There are unseen dangers in many aspects of our life. A firefighter cannot necessarily predict a back blast that will take both his life and the life he was trying to save. Lifeguards are taught to use other means of rescue before swimming toward a drowning victim. Sometimes instinct and adenaline overtake training and reason.
Workers risk their lives daily to provide coal to heat our homes. A person can be thrown from a horse or killed in a car accident on the way to work.
What a person looks at is the calculated risk involved. There is nothing wrong, in other words, with trying to rescue the animals of Katrina or a farmer running into his burning barn to rescue the animals trapped inside. We are called to stewardship of this earth.
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RobHom
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KathleenElsie… I understand your points, and I would have to add to my comments… the old adage “Fools do not go where Angels fear to tread”. I think I got that right… 
Anyway, my point is… I would have to make a decision, albeit a very fast one…as to whether or not I would take the chance of attempting a dangerous rescue. This is not to say that I would blindly rush into a barn, building or house that is about to collapse. But, if I was sure that I could achieve the goal with my hide intact…there’s a good chance I would do it. Otherwise…no.
Anyway, my point is… I would have to make a decision, albeit a very fast one…as to whether or not I would take the chance of attempting a dangerous rescue. This is not to say that I would blindly rush into a barn, building or house that is about to collapse. But, if I was sure that I could achieve the goal with my hide intact…there’s a good chance I would do it. Otherwise…no.
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OneAugustKnight
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The zookeepers aren’t so much protecting the animals as they are protecting their own livelihood. The Zookeepers have to stay during hurricanes, like a lot of hotel workers, hospital workers, police, firefighters, etc. A lot of ordinary people stay just to protect their belongings from looters.
It’s part of their job. You can’t leave millions of dollars worth of exotic animals alone for 3 days to a week, 2 times a year because of storms. Those animals would get pretty anxious not knowing when they get to eat next. And the last thing the NOPD needs is 2 hungry Siberian tigers roaming the streets, along with a dozen alligators, (one that is 12 feet long), a couple of black bears, jaguars, leopards, lions, elephants, kokmodo dragons, etc.
The Audobon Institute would not be happy if something happened to their investment at the Zoo. It was probably a lot of work and money to clean up their aquarium and replace all the fish.
This doesn’t mean stay for a hurricane to protect your dog. You can bring your pet with you to a Holiday Inn or a friends house, or drop it off at a kennel in the city you’ve evacuated to.
It’s part of their job. You can’t leave millions of dollars worth of exotic animals alone for 3 days to a week, 2 times a year because of storms. Those animals would get pretty anxious not knowing when they get to eat next. And the last thing the NOPD needs is 2 hungry Siberian tigers roaming the streets, along with a dozen alligators, (one that is 12 feet long), a couple of black bears, jaguars, leopards, lions, elephants, kokmodo dragons, etc.
The Audobon Institute would not be happy if something happened to their investment at the Zoo. It was probably a lot of work and money to clean up their aquarium and replace all the fish.
This doesn’t mean stay for a hurricane to protect your dog. You can bring your pet with you to a Holiday Inn or a friends house, or drop it off at a kennel in the city you’ve evacuated to.
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Teeliumtrozzle
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Yes, if the animal really needs help, and you risk your life to help it, that is a brave thing to do.
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Joe_Kelley
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The zookeepers appear to have been more dedicated than some of the health professionals. Better a zoo than a nursing home.
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Daniel_Marsh
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As I recall the zoo keeper had a safe room to hide in to weather out the worse part of the storm and was not in any immediate danger himself, execpt from mishandling the animals.
In general, since animals do not have a soul, I think it would be wrong to risk your life for an animal. But, if there is a safety margin, where you can protect yourself while caring for the animals, then it is good to protect those creatures.
Noah, only brought a pair of each animal on the ark to perserve them, he did not bring every animal in existence on the ark. So, he protected some, not all the animals. The sefety margin was, it was not raining yet.
In general, since animals do not have a soul, I think it would be wrong to risk your life for an animal. But, if there is a safety margin, where you can protect yourself while caring for the animals, then it is good to protect those creatures.
Noah, only brought a pair of each animal on the ark to perserve them, he did not bring every animal in existence on the ark. So, he protected some, not all the animals. The sefety margin was, it was not raining yet.
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