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I am a huge fan of his Nooma video series and can’t find anything incompatible with the faith in them. His new book aside (because I haven’t read it), what are your impressions of his works?

And could this new Emergent movement be the best thing for ecumenism since Vatican II?
 
The Nooma series is excellent. I have a couple other of his DVD’s as well. The hell controversy has really thrown me for a loop.
 
Bell’s ideas on hell are controversial only among conservative evangelical Protestants, many of whom tend to think that many/most/almost-all humans are definitely, definitively, and 100%-certainly, going to eternal damnation.
 
Here is a video of Father Barron’s answer:

youtube.com/watch?v=dmsa0sg4Od4
Great video, but Fr. Barron gets one thing incorrect, when he says that Bell argues that everyone will definitely be saved. Bell doesn’t argue that; Bell argues that there is much in the Christian tradition that points to the possibility that all will be saved, and thus we may reasonably hope that all will be saved – which is what Fr. Barron also argues.
 
Great video, but Fr. Barron gets one thing incorrect, when he says that Bell argues that everyone will definitely be saved. Bell doesn’t argue that; Bell argues that there is much in the Christian tradition that points to the possibility that all will be saved, and thus we may reasonably hope that all will be saved – which is what Fr. Barron also argues.
That’s what I thought Bell was teaching. I don’t know why there is so much controversy over his book unless certain kinds of people really like the thought that most people will be damned.
 
I don’t necessarily agree with everything he says, but I am a big fan of Rob Bell. It sounds like I’d like Father Barron too. 👍

And on net balance, I would say the “emerging church” movement (or conversation, as some prefer) is a Good Thing, though some associated with it go too far, and are too liberal both theologically and politically. I would say that’s true of the Emergent Village faction in particular.
 
I don’t necessarily agree with everything he says, but I am a big fan of Rob Bell. It sounds like I’d like Father Barron too. 👍

And on net balance, I would say the “emerging church” movement (or conversation, as some prefer) is a Good Thing, though some associated with it go too far, and are too liberal both theologically and politically. I would say that’s true of the Emergent Village faction in particular.
It takes a Village to emerge a church.

Sorry, couldn’t resist.😃
 
I don’t know why there is so much controversy over his book unless certain kinds of people really like the thought that most people will be damned.
It’s not because anyone likes the thought, but because to many,from a Biblical perspective, it seems that we cannot reasonably hope that all people will be saved.
 
And furthermore, if we cannot reasonably believe it, from an evangelistic perspective, it is harmful to teach it. So therefore, it is the opposite of liking the thought of people being damned that makes people angry at Bell’s view. They hate the thought of people being damned, and they believe Bell’s teaching will cause more people to be damned because if no one has hell to fear, then they have no reason to follow Christ in this life.
 
And furthermore, if we cannot reasonably believe it, from an evangelistic perspective, it is harmful to teach it. So therefore, it is the opposite of liking the thought of people being damned that makes people angry at Bell’s view. They hate the thought of people being damned, and they believe Bell’s teaching will cause more people to be damned because if no one has hell to fear, then they have no reason to follow Christ in this life.
There’s always purgatory to fear … I think as many people are turned away from Christianity by the traditional teaching on hell then are saved by it. Hell is real, but I think we can hope, as Barton and Bell do, that God’s grace will be triumphant for most people if not all. God desires all to be saved and Christ was sent to save the world, not to condemn the world. That doesn’t mean there might be someone who would completely reject God’s love, but our job is to hope and pray that God will save everyone. The church makes that clear when we pray for the salvation of all in mass. Wouldn’t be worth doing that if it couldn’t happen.
 
I agree. I am just pointing out that people who oppose Bell’s philosophy are not all full of malice. Their fierce dissent truly comes from their love of people and the truth as they understand it.
 
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