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He runs a blog with different topics. One topic he “disproves” Scott Hahn. Has ayone heard of this man? I am fairly new to Catholism and am just curious as to some of the points he makes.

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Please be kind to the newb. 🙂
 
Well, right off we get the “no true Scotsman” fallacy, so I’m not inclined to give this much thought.

Also, I love the quote in para 2: “catholic teachings always appeal to the mind and the senses…”

Yes. They do.
 
You know it did seem a little “off” to me. I was just curious was anybody else thought. So thank you for your quick reply.
 
I also liked the “Bible is self-explanatory…” in the last para. This is the root of the criticism of Hahn, that his interpretation if scripture doesn’t measure up to that of the article writer. But the self- explanatory idea is itself nonsense. It is ahistorical. It ignores how the Bible came to be. It ignores the fact that unless you read Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, you are reading a translation. It ignores the oral tradition that early Christianity was founded on. It fails when reading the prophetic books - can those be explained simply by reading the Bible and gazing at your own navel? This attitude, plus the several inaccuracies as to Catholic doctrine as explained in the article, really don’t recommend it.
 
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It fails when reading the prophetic books - can those be explained simply by reading the Bible and gazing at your own navel?
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Well, you could use a seer stone and a hat over your face. 😉
 
GannyDrant said:
He runs a blog with different topics. One topic he “disproves” Scott Hahn. Has ayone heard of this man? I am fairly new to Catholism and am just curious as to some of the points he makes.

lifeinfullness.org/?p=292#comment-2807

Please be kind to the newb. 🙂
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Well, just from the opening paragraph…he is already way off:

*As I read Scott Hahn’s conversion experience, it is very clear that his conversion was a result of:
  1. Misunderstanding and misinterpretation of scriptural truths and scripture passages – just as the rest of the Catholic Church does – during the course of his quest. His understanding and explanations of being born again, baptism, his understanding of justification by Faith Alone – Sola Fide, the Bible as our only authority – Sola Scriptura, the authority given to Peter, the Eucharist and many other doctrines are all completely flawed.*
Did he ask himself…that he could be the one that is way off in his understanding and interpretation? What is the source of his interpretation?

calledtocommunion.com/2009/07/ecclesial-deism/
What makes it ‘authoritative’ for Mohler is that it agrees with his interpretation of Scripture. If he encounters something in the tradition that seems extra-biblical or opposed to Scripture he rejects it. For that reason, tradition does not authoritatively guide his interpretation. His interpretation picks out what counts as tradition, and then this tradition informs his interpretation.*
 
Thanks. And thanks for the link. I will have to check that out in length when I get home. This is very helpful. You guys are great!
 
I noticed how in one of his arguments he actually buttressed the Catholic position. He said that if we do not take scripture as a whole we can end up accepting polygamy and divorce based on examples of the Old Testament. It is the Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit and Sacred Tradition which has always rejected polygamy and divorce. Martin Luther himself justified polygamy for one of his supporters but then backed off after an outcry. Likewise many Protestants are the ones who allow divorce despite the plain words of Jesus.

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Another thing is that I find that his understanding of Justification based on the Bible is really the same as the Catholic one. The Catholic position is that we are saved by Grace through Faith working (or expressing) through love. Faith is more than simple belief expressed at one point in time. It is a lifetime working commitment to love and obey the Lord in all things. If you are not, you, don’t necessarily have true faith. Essentially he is saying the same thing but then implies the Catholic Church says we are saved only by our works- which is not the Catholic position.

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