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I am somewhat concerned.
My 15 year old daughter listens to rock music.
I have noticed that some songs are about suicide.
Is this dangerous.
Thanks,
Annie
 
The short answer is “yes” because the music promotes the idea of it. You know your daughter, and you can judge from the rest of her life how likely she might be to go further in that direction.

By the way, there is a LOT of rock music these days with a Christian message. You can find bands at this site:

nextwavefaithful.com/positive_music1.asp

She probably would be reluctant to listen to any on her own. Maybe you could find out what secular artists she likes and just go ahead and buy her some CD’s from a correcsponding Christian band.
 
Yeah, well, make sure she understands that what’s in the song is not right. Have her research the rock band members. I guarentee you they all died of drug overdose, HIV/AIDS, suicide, or homicide. Make sure she knows that that’s not what she wants in her life. She can listen to the music as long as she keeps herself on track.
 
Sorry about the double post, but have her listen to Styx, which is my favorite band (about 70s, 80s, it’s old). Have her listen to The Grand Illusion. A lot of teenagers (at least at my school) like Styx.

But don’t be fooled by the
radio
the TV or the magazines.
They show you photographs
of how your life should be,
but they’re just someone else’s fantasies.
So if you think your life is
complete confusion
'cause your neighbor’s got it made,
just remember that
it’s a grand illusion.
Deep inside we’re all the same.
 
I think it depends on the song and the teenager. Not all songs that talk about suicide promote it and are dangerous and not all teens will be affected by the same songs in the same way. At that age, I remember listening to Creed’s “What’s This Life For,” rather an angsty number inspired by the recent suicide of three of the band’s friends. I still love the song and think there’s a good message in it if you read it the right way. (And all the bandmembers are clean and still alive)
 
One of my all time favorite songs, “Don’t Fear the Reaper” by Blue Oyster Cult, is about suicide. I listened to it as a young teen and I never once had any ideas of committing suicide.

I don’t think that the message in music has that much of an effect on people, be they young or old, that have their feet on the ground, so to speak. If your daughter is depressed or has some other condition that makes you concerned that she may be even possible considering suicide, those songs should be a concern. Otherwise, I don’t think it will effect her at all.

Just my opinion.

Peace

Tim

ps - I just asked my 15 year old son and he agrees with me.
 
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momof6wow6:
I am somewhat concerned.
My 15 year old daughter listens to rock music.
I have noticed that some songs are about suicide.
Is this dangerous.
Thanks,
Annie
When I was a teen I always said music had no affect on my morality “it’s just music.” Now I realize it was much more influential than I cared to admit. Help her find some songs with other lyrics. If she is singing she is praying twice, what happens if she is constantly singing a mantra that is very unChrist like? I was a good kid, never got into any serious trouble, but I know that the music had an affect, although I was a good kid.

It cant’ be a positive thing to sing some of these lyrics over and over again. It has a psychological effect.
 
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momof6wow6:
I am somewhat concerned.
My 15 year old daughter listens to rock music.
I have noticed that some songs are about suicide.
Is this dangerous.
Thanks,
Annie
No way, Annie. If you’re a good parent and you keep an open line with your daughter, then you’ve nothing to worry about. In fact, I found that listening to a lot of rock music (Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne as a solo artists) warned me away from suicide, drug use, and the occult. If anything, it’s cathartic and thought-provoking. I say encourage your daughter’s music interest…

…unless she’s listening to something like Linkin Park or Morrissey. In that case, sit her down and explain to her that they aren’t depressed, they’re just lame and have way too much time and money on their hands.
 
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cardenio:
Yeah, well, make sure she understands that what’s in the song is not right. Have her research the rock band members. I guarentee you they all died of drug overdose, HIV/AIDS, suicide, or homicide. Make sure she knows that that’s not what she wants in her life. She can listen to the music as long as she keeps herself on track.
You’ve left me scratching my head here, chief. What band(s) are you referring to? And what if they’re all still alive and kickin’? What if they’re sober, celibate, and keep good company…the kind that doesn’t commit murder?

And as for Styx…if Dennis DeYoung’s saptastic monstrosities don’t encourage suicide, I don’t know what will.

If it seems like I’m being a pest, you’re right. Your generalized argument will only aid in you serving yourself up to me like a big plate of sashimi.

Someone give me the soy sauce and the wasabi! WolfStar’s about to chow down!!!
 
What are the songs she’s listening to? From my experienc, most songs aren’t glorifying suicide, but conveying stories about people who have committed suicide.
 
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Orogeny:
One of my all time favorite songs, “Don’t Fear the Reaper” by Blue Oyster Cult, is about suicide. I listened to it as a young teen and I never once had any ideas of committing suicide.
I hear ya on that one. One of my favorite songs is Suicide Is Painless from the original MASH* movie.
 
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wabrams:
I hear ya on that one. One of my favorite songs is Suicide Is Painless from the original MASH* movie.
My mom was shocked when I told her that was the name of the theme song for the TV series.🙂

Peace

Tim
 
Songs about suicide don’t make teenagers kill themselves. I grew up on Rock n Roll and never once thought of suicide. I listened to Ozzy’s “Suicide Solution” and never did I think of killing myself. What upsets me is that back in the eighties when a couple of teens took there own lives the parents blamed Ozzy’s song. Why? Is it because the parents did not want to face the reality that something was mentally or emotionally wrong with their children. Suicide comes from things deeper than music.

In todays music industry I am more worried about the teenage girls who look up to Britney Spears, Christina A. and the other ones. Where they use sex appeal to sell themselves. I guess they have to dress sexy or sluty to sell their music, because their music ain’t that good anyway. Again just my opinion.
 
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Orogeny:
My mom was shocked when I told her that was the name of the theme song for the TV series.🙂

Peace

Tim
Have you ever heard the original acoustic version with lyrics?
 
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wabrams:
Have you ever heard the original acoustic version with lyrics?
Are you talking about the version from the movie? If so, yes, but it there is another version, I have not heard it.

Peace

Tim
 
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Orogeny:
Are you talking about the version from the movie? If so, yes, but it there is another version, I have not heard it.

Peace

Tim
Yeah, the one from the movie is what I’m talking about. I love the guitar w/ the orchestra strings playing in the background; great stuff.
 
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Orogeny:
One of my all time favorite songs, “Don’t Fear the Reaper” by Blue Oyster Cult, is about suicide. I listened to it as a young teen and I never once had any ideas of committing suicide.

I don’t think that the message in music has that much of an effect on people, be they young or old, that have their feet on the ground, so to speak. If your daughter is depressed or has some other condition that makes you concerned that she may be even possible considering suicide, those songs should be a concern. Otherwise, I don’t think it will effect her at all.

Just my opinion.

Peace

Tim

ps - I just asked my 15 year old son and he agrees with me.
Though songs that talk or glorify suicide never really affected me, I still feel like that as parents, we should guard our children on the messages that songs like these presents. My 16-year-old son, though very heavy in the “hard-core” rock scene, rejects negative song lyrics such as these, and is more drawn to uplifting, spiritual-type of songs - though with this type of music, I, as an “old fogey” cannot understand for the life of me how he can get uplifting messages from the heavy, droning, loud, screaming music he listens to. Still, I did take the time to read and listen to the lyrics of these songs, as should all parents.
 
My oldest son loves Linkin Park(yes, this is the correct spelling:rolleyes: ) Most of their songs are pretty angst ridden and seem, to me, to be depressing. I have told my son that he could purchase their CD but with the stipulation that he find some happier music to listen to also. The results are that he likes a wide variety of bands and music. Everything from Toby Keith to Good Charolette to Metallica.

I myself liked darker music when I was young. In all honesty, I feel like it helped me cope with some bad situations that I was going through. BUt you as a parent should sit down and have a conversation with your daughter. Tell her your concerns and listen to what she says.

If your gut reaction says not to let her have this CD, then tell her why. Once my son wanted a song by a band name Puddle of Mud. I always research the bands that he likes. I got on the internet and looked up their lyrics.Then I listened to the particular song that he liked. I understood its appeal and I told him that. THe song was She f$%in Hates Me. There was some humor in it and my son could probably relate to the sentiments of liking a girl that didn’t like him back, but…I couldn’t allow him to purchase a CD that had such a word in it. Much to my surprise, he thanked me for taking the time to at least give the song a chance. He didn’t get the CD but he at least respected my opinion. I am not saying that he agree with it, but he understood.
 
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wabrams:
I hear ya on that one. One of my favorite songs is Suicide Is Painless from the original MASH* movie.
My hubby actually played this song in his juinor high band. One day we were driving in the car and he started to sing the lyrics. I asked what in heaven’s name was he singing. When he said the lyrics from the MAS*H series I was shocked. I had no idea that the music had such a dark undertone.

By the way, I have Don’t Fear the Reaper on my playlist.It is one of the songs that I listen to as I clean house.😛
 
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deb1:
When he said the lyrics from the MAS*H series I was shocked. I had no idea that the music had such a dark undertone.
If you think about it, the lyrics really fit the movie.
 
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