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deb1:
Once my son wanted a song by a band name Puddle of Mud. I always research the bands that he likes. I got on the internet and looked up their lyrics.Then I listened to the particular song that he liked. I understood its appeal and I told him that. THe song was She f$%in Hates Me. There was some humor in it and my son could probably relate to the sentiments of liking a girl that didn’t like him back, but…I couldn’t allow him to purchase a CD that had such a word in it. Much to my surprise, he thanked me for taking the time to at least give the song a chance. He didn’t get the CD but he at least respected my opinion. I am not saying that he agree with it, but he understood.
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I think you did the right thing. It’s a shame about that song (I actually like that song) because Puddle of Mud is a very talented group that I think stands out from the rest of the sound-alikes.

Peace

Tim
 
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wabrams:
Yeah, the one from the movie is what I’m talking about. I love the guitar w/ the orchestra strings playing in the background; great stuff.
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I saw the movie when it was in the theaters. If I remember correctly, it was rated R and I was about 10 years old. We went to see something else and when the usher wasn’t looking, we ran into the theater showing MASH (there were only two screens at this particular theater, but that was a MEGAPLEX in those days!). Man, would we have been in trouble if we had been caught!😃

Peace

Tim
 
Here’s something I don’t understand. Eric Clapton records “Cocaine”, a song glorifying cocaine usage, and no one at the FCC says a word. But Kid Rock and Sheryl Crowe record “Picture” with a lyric that says “been fueling up on cocaine and whiskey” and they want the line removed. :confused:
 
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rocklobster:
Here’s something I don’t understand. Eric Clapton records “Cocaine”, a song glorifying cocaine usage, and no one at the FCC says a word. But Kid Rock and Sheryl Crowe record “Picture” with a lyric that says “been fueling up on cocaine and whiskey” and they want the line removed. :confused:
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Maybe someone at the FCC just has good taste and realizes that Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow are lame and need to be put in a box and mailed to Abu Dhabi. I know it’s overdue for Sheryl, seeing as how she butchered great songs by both Guns N’ Roses and Cat Stevens. Slowhand rules, yo.
 
Since we keep talking about it and it seems fairly relevant to this topics, here are the lyrics to Suicide Is Painless:

Through early morning fog I see
The visions of the things to be.
The pains that are withheld for me
I realize, and I can see…

That suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please

The game of life is hard to play
I’m gonna lose it anyway
The losing card, I’ll someday lay
So this is all I have to say

Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please

The sword of time will pierce our skin
It doesn’t hurt when it begins
But as it works its way on in
The pain grows stronger, watch it brim…

Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please

A brave man once requested me
To answer questions that are key
“Is it to be, or not to be?”
And I replied, “why ask me?”

But suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please
And you can do the same thing if you please
 
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rocklobster:
Here’s something I don’t understand. Eric Clapton records “Cocaine”, a song glorifying cocaine usage, and no one at the FCC says a word. But Kid Rock and Sheryl Crowe record “Picture” with a lyric that says “been fueling up on cocaine and whiskey” and they want the line removed. :confused:
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Because Clapton has more talent than those two put together?😃

Peace

Tim
 
I’d like to interject a bit of a warning here - if you have reason to believe that your child is depressed, get help. I’m 47 now but I’ve had a depression problem all of my life. When I was young nobody ever thought about kids and depression. There have been problems with kids and anti-depressant medications, but therapy can help a lot. Just having someone to talk to can help a lot. Depression is a disease and needs to be treated; it doesn’t just go away. I seriously doubt that music will inspire a “regular” kid to suicide - but if the child already has a problem and seems obsessed - it could be a danger sign.
 
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JohnPaul0:
The short answer is “yes” because the music promotes the idea of it. You know your daughter, and you can judge from the rest of her life how likely she might be to go further in that direction.

By the way, there is a LOT of rock music these days with a Christian message. You can find bands at this site:

nextwavefaithful.com/positive_music1.asp

She probably would be reluctant to listen to any on her own. Maybe you could find out what secular artists she likes and just go ahead and buy her some CD’s from a correcsponding Christian band.
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I’m leery of these “Christian Alternatives”- First off, why would you need a Christian alternative to Creed when they are, for all intensive purposes, a CHRISTIAN BAND? And substituting POD for an act like Rage Against the Machine? They don’t even have the same sound (Zach De La Rocha didn’t even attempt to add melody or singing. He just rapped.) let alone address similar issues in their lyrical content. And as for the Ramones, that’s just baffling!
 
Hey there!!
Im 14 years old and i am a huge rock fan…although some songs talk about suicide doesnt mean us teenagers are actually going to do it…some songs in the rock genre are acutally really peaceful aka love metal
i highly doubt its dangerous… 👍
 
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LeftHandBlack:
I’m leery of these “Christian Alternatives”- First off, why would you need a Christian alternative to Creed when they are, for all intensive purposes, a CHRISTIAN BAND? And substituting POD for an act like Rage Against the Machine? They don’t even have the same sound (Zach De La Rocha didn’t even attempt to add melody or singing. He just rapped.) let alone address similar issues in their lyrical content. And as for the Ramones, that’s just baffling!
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There isn’t much theological depth to the Christian bands that I hear. Many of the songs could be love songs to women, if the lyrics were changed just a bit.
 
I remember seeing an interview with Ozzy Osbourne on VH-1. When asked about the song “Suicide Solution,” he said it was about the dangers of alcohol, which was brought to the fore-front for him by not only his own alcoholism, but also by the tragic death of AC/DC frontman Bon Scott.

Consider, after all, the opening lyric…

Wine is fine, but whiskey’s quicker
Suicide is slow with liquor
Take a bottle drown your sorrows
Then it floods away tomorrows

There’s a truth to these lyrics which to this day, has kept me from ever wanting to start drinking alcohol at all. :cool:
 
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momof6wow6:
I am somewhat concerned.
My 15 year old daughter listens to rock music.
I have noticed that some songs are about suicide.
Is this dangerous.
Thanks,
Annie
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Wow, that’s weird. I listen to tons of rock music. Heck, that’s all I listen to. But that doesn’t mean that I listen to rock music about suicide. That stuff is called “Death Metal,” and it has polluted too many people.

You better tell your daughter to stop listening to that stuff. Now, there’s nothing wrong with listening to “hard rock” or “metalcore” rock, just watch out for the lyrics.
 
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deb1:
My oldest son loves Linkin Park(yes, this is the correct spelling:rolleyes: ) Most of their songs are pretty angst ridden and seem, to me, to be depressing. I have told my son that he could purchase their CD but with the stipulation that he find some happier music to listen to also. The results are that he likes a wide variety of bands and music. Everything from Toby Keith to Good Charolette to Metallica.

I myself liked darker music when I was young. In all honesty, I feel like it helped me cope with some bad situations that I was going through. BUt you as a parent should sit down and have a conversation with your daughter. Tell her your concerns and listen to what she says.

If your gut reaction says not to let her have this CD, then tell her why. Once my son wanted a song by a band name Puddle of Mud. I always research the bands that he likes. I got on the internet and looked up their lyrics.Then I listened to the particular song that he liked. I understood its appeal and I told him that. THe song was She f$%in Hates Me. There was some humor in it and my son could probably relate to the sentiments of liking a girl that didn’t like him back, but…I couldn’t allow him to purchase a CD that had such a word in it. Much to my surprise, he thanked me for taking the time to at least give the song a chance. He didn’t get the CD but he at least respected my opinion. I am not saying that he agree with it, but he understood.
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…But Puddle of Mud is a good band…
 
Depends. Teenagers generally do not take lyrics nearly as serious as parents to. I remember as a teen a song by Guns N’ Roses called Used to Love Her But Had To Kill Her - the lyrics are awful from a moral standpont but it’s really not meant to be taken seriously. My friends and used to all laugh when it came on but parents were very concerned.

“Suicide Solution” by Ozzy is a often misunderstood song. Solution is used in the sense of a liquid (like say cleaning solution). He was referring to alcohol as a “suicide solution”. As teens all my friends understood that.

There are songs out there that at the least make suicide look inviting. Fade to Black by Metallica comes to mind.
*Life it seems, will fade away.
Drifting further every day.
Getting lost within myself.
Nothing matters no one else.

I have lost the will to live.
Simply nothing more to give.
There is nothing more for me.
Need the end to set me free.

Things not what used to be.
Missing one inside of me.
Deathly lost, this can’t be real.
Cannot stand this hell I feel.

Emptiness is filling me.
To the point of agony.
Growing darkness taking dawn.
I was me, but now he’s gone.

No one but me can save myself but it’s too late.
Now I can’t think, think why I should even try.

Yesterday seems as though it never existed.
Death Greets me warm, now I will just say goodbye.
I loved that song as a teen. My teen years were difficut and I could relate sometime to the feelings. For a very depressed teen it could be dangerous. But suicide isn’t inviting to a normal healthy teenager. If you have a child with depression issues I would look at listening to alot of dark music as a symptom of their depression not a cause. Removing the music will not cure the problem, there is something much deeper going on that needs to be addressed.
 
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AsStAnselmPrays:
…But Puddle of Mud is a good band…
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I like Puddle of Mud also.(even though I am an old fart:p ) Do you think that parents only ban owning certain CD’s just because we dislike the music? Not true. My rule is if there is cursing in the CD, it isn’t allowed in the house. There were many good songs by this band and my son still listens to them on Yahoo’s music site, but he can’t buy the CD itself.

Personally, I love rock music. I like some pretty heavy stuff too, but when you have children you have to pay close attention to what they listen to.
 
On my way:
Songs about suicide don’t make teenagers kill themselves. I grew up on Rock n Roll and never once thought of suicide. I listened to Ozzy’s “Suicide Solution” and never did I think of killing myself. What upsets me is that back in the eighties when a couple of teens took there own lives the parents blamed Ozzy’s song. Why? Is it because the parents did not want to face the reality that something was mentally or emotionally wrong with their children. Suicide comes from things deeper than music.

In todays music industry I am more worried about the teenage girls who look up to Britney Spears, Christina A. and the other ones. Where they use sex appeal to sell themselves. I guess they have to dress sexy or sluty to sell their music, because their music ain’t that good anyway. Again just my opinion.
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I’m with you! I rocked out to ACDC, Ozzy, Metallica, Motley Crue, Kiss, etc and still do! I am a business owner with three children, husband and I am a Christian…I would say that I turned out alright…

Anyway, if I had a daughter I would be more worried about #1…sluty stuff…#2 eating disorders…girls are being told that they have to be sooooooo thin.
 
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