Roman Missal 3rd edition

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Question: will the cycle of readings (A,B,C) stay the same?
 
Chatter163 said:
Nor is the missal changing. Only the English translation of the missal is changing.
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There are some changes in the Missal and the English are not the only ones getting a new translation. The French are also in the middle of that process.
 
Chatter163 said:
Nor is the missal changing. Only the English translation of the missal is changing.
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Actually the missal already has changed . . .

A new editio typica was approved by Blessed Pope John Paul II in 2000 (Editio Typica Tertia) and was published in 2002. This updated *editio typica *included things like several updates of optional and obligatory memorials, the addition of a preface for martyrs, and other more or less housekeeping updates that are necessary after 30 or 40 years.

My understanding is that all vernacular translations will have to be updated to match the *editio typica *(the Spanish-language translation process has already begun and as Phemie noted, the French as well). The reason the English translation is such a big deal is because 1) it’s one of the first to be updated and 2) the current translation differs greatly (some might say departs drastically) from the Roman edition and as such, is undergoing a massive revision; most other vernacular translations by comparison require only tweaking to bring them back in concordance with the editio typica.

Please note - I’m not attempting to dispute the quality, validity, legitimacy, etc. of the current English translation but merely am attempting to explain my understanding of the reasons behind the update.

To bring this back to the original topic, the English-language lectionary (which combined with what is currently called the Sacramentary forms the Roman Missal) has already been updated, on May 19, 2002.
 
Exactly. In other words, The missal is not changing. Only the English translation of the missal is changing.
 
Chatter163 said:
Exactly. In other words, The missal is not changing. Only the English translation of the missal is changing.
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The English translation we’re getting is the translation of a changed Latin Missal. So, yes, the Missal is changing. It may not be very noticeable but there are definitely changes that go beyond simply the translation.
 
Phemie said:
The English translation we’re getting is the translation of a changed Latin Missal. So, yes, the Missal is changing. It may not be very noticeable but there are definitely changes that go beyond simply the translation.
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But the Latin NO changed in 2002, didn’t it? :confused: What if it changes again? :eek:
 
Chatter163 said:
Exactly. In other words, The missal is not changing. Only the English translation of the missal is changing.
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Correct, only the English is changing . . . oh, and the Spanish and French . . . and all other vernacular-language translations of the Editio Typica Tertia.
 
jkarp said:
Correct, only the English is changing . . . oh, and the Spanish and French . . . and all other vernacular-language translations of the Editio Typica Tertia.
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Because the Latin Missal is different. 😃
 
ProVobis said:
But the Latin NO changed in 2002, didn’t it? :confused: What if it changes again? :eek:
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It definitely will change again; this is a normal thing - it generally happens every 30 ~ 40 years. Don’t worry 🙂 Here’s a list of some of the major revisions of the Editio Typica since the Council of Trent:

2008 - Roman Missal Third Edition Corrected (Corrected misprints & mistakes in 2002 edition)
2002 - Third Edition
1975 - Second Edition
1970 - Missale Romanum
1962 - (Last edition of what is now the Extraordinary Form or Antiquior Usus)
1955
1920
1884
… ← bunch of independent missals were published
1634
1604
1570

This is most likely not a comprehensive list & the dates may be off +/- a year or two but demonstrates my point.
 
jkarp said:
It definitely will change again; this is a normal thing - it generally happens every 30 ~ 40 years. Don’t worry 🙂
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I think I can handle the Latin changes. They’re easy to keep track of (as you’ve demonstrated.) 👍
 
Phemie said:
The English translation we’re getting is the translation of a changed Latin Missal. So, yes, the Missal is changing. It may not be very noticeable but there are definitely changes that go beyond simply the translation.
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No, the missal changed in 2002, and the GIRM had changed in 2000. That was a decade ago. The English translation is just now catching up. Big difference.
 
Chatter163 said:
No, the missal changed in 2002, and the GIRM had changed in 2000. That was a decade ago. The English translation is just now catching up. Big difference.
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The changes that occurred in the text of Latin Missal have never been implemented in the vernacular. They will be implemented with this translation.

Some countries have already implemented the GIRM, some haven’t. For Canadians, everything will be new since the CCCB was of the opinion that the new GIRM legally only applied to the third edition and didn’t need to be implemented until the English translation was.
 
jkarp said:
2008 - Roman Missal Third Edition Corrected (Corrected misprints & mistakes in 2002 edition)
2002 - Third Edition
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BTW, where can one find these misprints and mistakes (in the Latin edition)?
 
Phemie said:
The changes that occurred in the text of Latin Missal have never been implemented in the vernacular. They will be implemented with this translation.

Some countries have already implemented the GIRM, some haven’t. For Canadians, everything will be new since the CCCB was of the opinion that the new GIRM legally only applied to the third edition and didn’t need to be implemented until the English translation was.
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Agreed. But there is no new typical edition of the Roman Missal, and has not been for nearly a decade. That is the point that I have been trying to make.
 
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