Romanian married GC priests not welcome in Italy's Churches

[Aelred_Minor]

Aelred Minor, I get the impression that you’re not really reading what Alex is saying about the Union of Brest.

It seems to me that it is not charitable to suggest that someone did not read the post they are responding to simply because they do not agree with the implications of what was written. Sure, conditions at the time of the Union of Brest were not ideal. Motivations were mixed and the attitude of the Ukrainian bishops towards Rome was imperfect.

My point is that in approaching the issue of the orthodoxy of one’s fellow Catholics (ones in the Church today), one should at first assume good faith on their part until such time as they clearly contradict that assumption. No adult is a practicing Catholic because their ancestors decided to become Catholics centuries ago (whether for perfect or imperfect reasons). They are a practicing Catholic because they choose to maintain their full membership in the Catholic Church, which includes of course their full submission to the Roman Pontiff and communion with him.

Thus, when someone asks why Eastern Catholics are even in communion with Rome, my resonse is along the lines of “presumably because they believe in Catholicism and therefore wish to be a part of the Catholic Church.”

 

[Vico]

That’s what I call stating the obvious! Buddhists, for example, are not in full communion with the Catholic Church, and certainly hold that the Catholic Church is heterodox. I’m guess you meant to be a little more specific than just “some of those that are not in full communion with the Catholic”.

No, because I did not want to say everybody, and some members of Orthodoxy, for example, personally consider themselves in full communion because it is morally impossible for them to be in a Catholic Church due to politics.

 

[dochawk]

So far, its only been done once since the CCEO was promulgated (a married deacon was elevated to the priesthood in the Eparchy of Parma).

sort of.

at least two of our bishops are gleefully importing married priests from a Slovakian seminary.

hawk

 

[ByzCathCantor]

sort of.

at least two of our bishops are gleefully importing married priests from a Slovakian seminary.

hawk

Noted, Hawk, but that trick has been used for decades (and not just by the Ruthenians) - not the same as ordaining a married candidate directly, as I’m sure you would agree!

Hope you and all the faithful in the “Nevada outposts” had and are having a joyous Paschal season!

 

[Peter_J]

It seems to me that it is not charitable to suggest that someone did not read the post they are responding to simply because they do not agree with the implications of what was written.

I agreed, but that’s not really relevant b/c I didn’t do that.

 

[dochawk]

Noted, Hawk, but that trick has been used for decades (and not just by the Ruthenians) - not the same as ordaining a married candidate directly, as I’m sure you would agree!

Hope you and all the faithful in the “Nevada outposts” had and are having a joyous Paschal season!

Oh, I absolutely agree–but this round seems much more unapologetic than in the past. rather than “gee, well, this is who the mother Church sent,” they are actively recruiting straight out of a seminary whose graduates are all married.

I think the word I’m looking for is, “brazen.”



Things are spectacular in Nevada–my oldest has returned to town with my grand-babies!

And the new school and mother house are still on track.

hawk

 

[Robertwilliam]

That being said, the OCA in recent times has been one of the most powerful voices for Orthodox unity in the U.S. as well as Catholic-Orthodox unity; illustrating once again that God is the only Being that can bring good out of evil.

ARE YOU SAYING THE EASTERN ORTHODOX CHURCH IS EVIL???
IF THAT IS SO THEN I CALL THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH PURE EVIL!!!@

 

[Peter_J]

That being said, the OCA in recent times has been one of the most powerful voices for Orthodox unity in the U.S. as well as Catholic-Orthodox unity; illustrating once again that God is the only Being that can bring good out of evil.

ARE YOU SAYING THE EASTERN ORTHODOX CHURCH IS EVIL???

Since Phillip didn’t say that, you shouldn’t assume that was what he meant.

In fact, I think it’s pretty obvious that that isn’t what he meant.