Romans 8:38-39

[theresaavey]

If nothing separates us from God(Romans 8:38-39) why then do we have to die? And why do we feel separated…I know truth isn’t about feeling…but why are we judged on our thoughts as well as our actions?

 

[R_C]

If nothing separates us from God(Romans 8:38-39) why then do we have to die? And why do we feel separated…I know truth isn’t about feeling…but why are we judged on our thoughts as well as our actions?

It is truly our salvation that the Beloved judges us on our thoughts and on our intentions, for our actions originate because of our thoughts, and we are not aware of our thoughts. We easily misjudge others because we only see their actions - and not even all of them, only a few - but the Lord, Who looks over each of us at every time, know why each action is performed, and the most kind and compassionate mother would fall short of the mercy that the Lord shall show on us the day of our judgment.

It is true that “in Him we move and live”, but it is also true that until our physical life ends we are not at the presence of the glory of God.

The full answer resides in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.

While being God, He came down and became man, and as such He was not at the presence of the Father - “If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father”.

After this “death of the body” - which is not the true death (*Those who believe in me, even though they die, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die. *) - we know that, being one in Christ, we will also be with Him at the presence of the Almighty. There we shall never feel separated.

Next Sunday, when you go to Holy Mass, you will hear the words of the Beloved, yet you will not see Him. Then He will come to you, but in the mystery of faith, in the divine Eucharist. And you will long for Him, you will want to receive Him, you will rejoice in the Communion as the Lord gives Himself to you, but your soul will be suffering inside an agony of love, wishing that she could also give herself to the Beloved…be with Him…

Holy Mass is our heaven on earth…but the Supper of the Lamb will be of infinite rejoicing and the mystical union will be complete…when the Bridegroom and the Bride reunite in the House of the Father, they will become one, in the unbreakable unity that is an infinite love, the unity of the Holy Spirit:

For as the Father and the Son

and he who proceeds from them

live in one another,

so it would be with the bride;

for, taken wholly into God,

she will live the life of God.

See how the Romance of St. John of the Cross wonderfully words it? It’s a small composition, but perhaps the most wonderful mystical poem ever written by human hands. I finally found an English version here…it seems almost like it was written as an answer to your question…

 

[AlanFromWichita]

If nothing separates us from God(Romans 8:38-39) why then do we have to die? And why do we feel separated…I know truth isn’t about feeling…but why are we judged on our thoughts as well as our actions?

When you “die to yourself” and are born in the spirit, you become free from the law of sin and death and are then led by the spirit of love and truth. When this happens, there is no mistaking it because your whole worldview changes as you enter the kingdom.

Jesus did come to be thought police, although I think most people believe He did. Jesus was actually a “thought coach” and if you follow his “suggestions” or “commands” you will grow and at some point hopefully before you die, your eyes will be opened and you will see yourself in the kingdom.

As far as the thought police comment when Jesus equated being angry at one’s brother to murder, He was really saying that the idea of having a desire to harm another person – even if by thinking bad thoughts about them – does the same thing to us spiritually as if we’d actually taken physical action. Why did Jesus say that? Because the “righteous” loved to point toward “known” sinners and look down at them, while in fact Jesus is saying that we all have angry thoughts so just because they didn’t kill someone doesn’t mean they have been perfected in this way of thinking.

When you do all that, sin isn’t even a question. I don’t worry about sin, hell, nothing. I worry about what do I do now? What can I be thankful for? How can I be a blessing? Those kinds of things. So there is no sin, no condemnation.

There can be no condemnation on our flesh mind/body, because it is “put to death” by someone who follows Jesus’s instructions. So after you’re born of the spirit, you are immune to such. This is important because the world will try to drag you down by telling you your weaknesses and faults.

I suggest you spend a lot of time in Rom 7 and 8 both – maybe Rom 6 even, and you might see exactly what I’m talking about as far as how sin puts us to death so we may be reborn in the spirit.

Alan