Rome Erects New Syro Malabar Diocese In Australia

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No eparch and not even a priest. But I am sure there are Syro-Malabarese in Malaysia but I have not met one. I don’t even know where to look. There are several MarThomite and Syriac churches but none on the Catholic side. All our priests are Latin Rite and most have no knowledge about what Syro-Malabarese is (they may have heard of it if you say St Thomas Christians). I am sure that they take their sacraments in Latin churches or maybe, they switch over to Syriac or MarThomite. I would imagine there should be a group somewhere keen to preserve their traditions. I am still looking.
Interesting, I wonder why that is.

One point you could perhaps clarify … when you say “There are several MarThomite and Syriac churches but none on the Catholic side”, I’m guessing that they are of the West-Syriac family (e.g. Syriac Orthodox and Malankara Orthodox)? Or are they of East-Syriac Rite(s)?
 
I have a member in my church who’s family has been in Malaysia for a few generations. They are all Syro-Malankara Catholics and Syriac Orthodox (Jacobite).

To the Peter, previous poster, the Marthoma denomination and others mentioned are West Syriac. I don’t think there are any East Syriac Churches in Malaysia except for the Syro-Malabars.
 
Interesting, I wonder why that is.

One point you could perhaps clarify … when you say “There are several MarThomite and Syriac churches but none on the Catholic side”, I’m guessing that they are of the West-Syriac family (e.g. Syriac Orthodox and Malankara Orthodox)? Or are they of East-Syriac Rite(s)?
West Syriac (Syriac Orthodox Church) and Anglican 😉 (MarThomite).

The last East Syriac church in this part of the world was probably in the sixth century, remains of which was reported found in Sumatra. So, Christianity reached South East Asia before Islam as we did anywhere else.
 
I have a member in my church who’s family has been in Malaysia for a few generations. They are all Syro-Malankara Catholics and Syriac Orthodox (Jacobite).

To the Peter, previous poster, the Marthoma denomination and others mentioned are West Syriac. I don’t think there are any East Syriac Churches in Malaysia except for the Syro-Malabars.
Syro-Malakara in Malaysia, oooo! - there are probably less then 1000 families in Malaysia. Do you know where their Catholic family members go for Qurbana? I suspect in Syriac Church.

The thing is that the Syro-Malakara have their Orthodox counterpart in Malaysia but the Syro-Malabarese don’t. After all, how many non-Catholic East Syriac Malabarese are there? The CSC? - they have less members worldwide than Syro-Malabarese just in Malaysia.
 
Good to note that they have not been forgotten. Thanks for digging it up. I estimate that there are four or five times the number of Syro-Malabarese families in Malaysia. Those in Malaysia & Singapore are not considered migrant families as they have been here for over a century and most have grandfathers born here (Grandmothers tend to be imported from India). Most in Hong Kong are likely migrant families with a very small number born in Hong Kong.

It is important to provide pastoral care to them in their own rite. Not only is it for them to preserve their identity as a people and ensure that they do not need to refer to Syriac and MarThomite churches for their sacraments (which incidentally are still rather different from theirs), it is also important for the Latins to understand that not all Catholics are Roman Catholics and to value other ways of being Catholics.
Isn’t Malaysia majority Islam? There are no restrictions on Catholics and Christians in general?

As for Singapore…i am not sure what the majority religion is there-buddhism perhaps?

I think there are a lot of migrant Filipino workers there who are catholics…🙂
 
Isn’t Malaysia majority Islam? There are no restrictions on Catholics and Christians in general?
Malaysia is a Muslim majority country but only a small majority of about 60%. All ethnic Malays, who form 50% of the population are by definition Muslims (if a Malay convert out of Islam, then technically he/she have no race). The rest of the Muslims are largely non-Malay natives, Muslim immigrants from Indonesia & Philipines and some Indians. The Chinese (25% of the population) are predominantly Buddist and Chinese folk religion syncretised with Buddism and Taoism. Christians are 9% of the population (and likely the fastest growing of the main religions, up from 7% a decade ago), two thirds of which are non-Malay natives. One-third of the Christians are Catholics, down from half a generaton ago.

However, due to the political insecurity of the indigeneous race in Malaya at the time of independence in 1957, the consitution provides for Islam as the state religion and the nine sultans as the head of religion in their respective states (but with consitutional guarantees of religious freedom for all and Syaria law applying only for marriage & inheritance for Muslims only - as such, debate is ranging today whether Malaysia is a secular state or an Islamic state).

Due to the ethnic and religious nature of politics in Malaysia (the ruling coalition is built around three ethnic-based parties), we never got to building a single nation, irrespective of race or religion. You may be aware that the government in Malaysia has last month seized Malay-language Bibles used by non-Malay Christian natives and containing the word Allah, on the grounds that Malay Muslims could get confused and convert out of Islam over the Christian use of the Muslim word for God (what does that say about the strength of the Muslim faith and their faith education?).

Also, last year a court ruled that the Catholic newspaper is not allowed to use the word Allah in its publications, leading to a lot of chest-beating by Muslim nationalist NGOs and threats against any challange to the court ruling. Needless to say, it led to a lof of ridicule of Malaysian Muslims by Muslims outside of the country.
As for Singapore…i am not sure what the majority religion is there-buddhism perhaps?
Singapore, on the other hand, is a 75% Chinese majority nation, most of whom follow a syncretised form of Buddism, Taoism and ancestor worship folk religion (most Chinese anywhere who call themselves Buddist are not Buddist in the same sense as the Thais or Tibetans - they really follow a syncretised religion). There is also a sizeable contingent of Buddist Chinese in the same sense as the Thais, or Tibetan. (It must be understood that the Chinese culture is not religion-based. This is not to say that the Chinese culture is not religious - it requires only acceptance of Confucianist tenets, irresepctive of regilion). some 20% are Christian, with Catholicism a decreasing proportion - about one third of all Christians currently from more than half a generation ago.
 
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