Rome suppressing Eastern Catholic Churches

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Well, about that, Rome has been thinking for a while now about suppressing the Eastern Catholic Churches. Did you know that in the Eastern Code of Canon Law or the so called CCEO there is a provision about this? It clearly states that the Eastern Catholic Churches exist by the will of the Holy See, and that they can be suppressed anytime by the same authority. Basically, since the Popes created those churches, they also have the power to suppress them. It is a clear concept and principle of canon law (both latin and eastern codes) that the entity which can create a body, has also the authority to suppress it.
I think Rome, after Vatican II and Ecumenism becoming popular in the Church, has realized that the Eastern Catholic Churches have not realized their historic purpose of uniting their Orthodox sister Churches to Rome, so the Holy See now has engaged in ecumenism, and the presence of the Eastern Catholic Churches are hurting this dialogue of the Holy See with the Orthodox. Basically, bishops of the Eastern Catholic Churches range from those enthusiastic to the union with their Orthodox brethren, to those who are very latinized and still hold a grudge against the Orthodox. Even Rome itself has abbandoned this latter mentality, but those bishops so latinized still hold on to it. Believe me, I know what I am writing, I am an Eastern Catholic priest and also have a Doctorate in Canon Law. I also lived in Rome for a long time so I know what goes on in the Vatican Curia and how officials there think. BTW, I am happy Rome has changed attitude. Ecumenism is the way I think!
 
paults12 said:
Well, about that, Rome has been thinking for a while now about suppressing the Eastern Catholic Churches. Did you know that in the Eastern Code of Canon Law or the so called CCEO there is a provision about this? It clearly states that the Eastern Catholic Churches exist by the will of the Holy See, and that they can be suppressed anytime by the same authority.
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Really? Here is a link to the English version of the CCEO. Would you please tell me exactly where that provision is? Because I’ve read it several times and can’t find it. :confused:
 
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Well, about that, Rome has been thinking for a while now about suppressing the Eastern Catholic Churches. Did you know that in the Eastern Code of Canon Law or the so called CCEO there is a provision about this? It clearly states that the Eastern Catholic Churches exist by the will of the Holy See, and that they can be suppressed anytime by the same authority. Basically, since the Popes created those churches, they also have the power to suppress them. It is a clear concept and principle of canon law (both latin and eastern codes) that the entity which can create a body, has also the authority to suppress it.
I think Rome, after Vatican II and Ecumenism becoming popular in the Church, has realized that the Eastern Catholic Churches have not realized their historic purpose of uniting their Orthodox sister Churches to Rome, so the Holy See now has engaged in ecumenism, and the presence of the Eastern Catholic Churches are hurting this dialogue of the Holy See with the Orthodox. Basically, bishops of the Eastern Catholic Churches range from those enthusiastic to the union with their Orthodox brethren, to those who are very latinized and still hold a grudge against the Orthodox. Even Rome itself has abbandoned this latter mentality, but those bishops so latinized still hold on to it. Believe me, I know what I am writing, I am an Eastern Catholic priest and also have a Doctorate in Canon Law. I also lived in Rome for a long time so I know what goes on in the Vatican Curia and how officials there think. BTW, I am happy Rome has changed attitude. Ecumenism is the way I think!
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Suppressing the Eastern Catholics would just give us more reason to be suspicious of the Holy See.
 
Originally Posted by paults12 forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif Well, about that, Rome has been thinking for a while now about suppressing the Eastern Catholic Churches. Did you know that in the Eastern Code of Canon Law or the so called CCEO there is a provision about this? It clearly states that the Eastern Catholic Churches exist by the will of the Holy See, and that they can be suppressed anytime by the same authority.
Celticnovice: Really? Here is a link to the English version of the CCEO. Would you please tell me exactly where that provision is? Because I’ve read it several times and can’t find it. :confused:🍿
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Here are some interesting comments on this topic. Sacri Canones was the document promulgating the CCEO. Apostolic Constitution Sacri Canones John Paul II 1990

But what pertains to the universal ecumenical movement, stirred up by the Holy Spirit to perfect the unity of the whole Church of Christ, the new Code is in no way the least obstacle but rather greatly advances it. For the Code guards this fundamental right of the human persons, namely that the faith be professed in whatever their rite, for the most part derived by them in their mothers’ wombs, which is the rule of all ecumenism. Nor is it in any way neglected that the Eastern Catholic Churches, content in the tranquility of order desired by the Second Vatican Council, “may flourish and execute with a new apostolic vigor the task entrusted to them” (OE 1). Thus it happens that it is necessary that the canons of the Code of the Eastern Catholic Churches have the same firmness as the laws of the Code of Canon Law of the Latin Church; that is, that they be in force until abrogated or changed by the supreme authority of the Church for a just cause, of which causes full communion of all of the Eastern Churches with the Catholic Church is indeed the most serious, besides being especially in accord with the desire of Our Savior Jesus Christ himself.

archive.org/stream/ApostolicConstitutionSacriCanonesJohnPaulIi1990/Sacri_Canones_Apostolic_Constitution_John_Paul_II_1990_djvu.txt ORIENTALIUM ECCLESIARUM
Pope Paul VI
Given in Rome at St. Peter’s, November 21, 196430. The Sacred Council feels great joy in the fruitful zealous collaboration of the Eastern and the Western Catholic Churches and at the same time declares: All these directives of law are laid down in view of the present situation until such time as the Catholic Church and the separated Eastern Churches come together into complete unity.
vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_orientalium-ecclesiarum_en.html
 
Suppressing, and all.

I have only one thing to say. One Archbsihop of my eastern catholic church said that Holy Father Pope Benedict 16 is one of the great persons the world has ever seen, and let us remain as it is’.
Pope is the greatest scholar in the christian world. He knows all the Chrisitan churches and he is such a great and holy person. What he does is for goodnes of Chriositanity. The nwhat else should he do? Most of the Eastern churches in Islam dominated nations and do something with them. It is not possible practically. Even the Saudi govt tried to liberate the laws and give some freedom in 1978. But what happend? The holy mosque was captured by terrosrists and the plan for freedom was dropped and again strict laws were put. Also, in Syria, President Bashar al assad tried to give more freedom and tried to reform his nation. But he found it will get matters worse.
So be practical and just obey Pope in this scenario.
 
Rome suppressing the Eastern Catholic Churches ?
[sarcasm] Oh that’s very likely [/sarcasm]

since Rome has just announced that both the exarchate of Great Britain and that of France had both just been raised to Eparchies
 
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Rome suppressing the Eastern Catholic Churches ?
[sarcasm] Oh that’s very likely [/sarcasm]

since Rome has just announced that both the exarchate of Great Britain and that of France had both just been raised to Eparchies
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