Rosary: I have to be in a State of Grace? Really?

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ask for him to provide you with the evidence to support this claim from Official Church Doctrine. Should that not clear it up, speak to your Bishop about these claims.
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It is possible that Fr. Ripperger is speaking of gaining indulgences, especially plenary indulgences where one does need to be in a state of grace. I like the video someone posted from Fr. Mike. He explains very good the importance of being in a state of grace when praying and what to do when we are not.
 
You hold up what he says to Church Doctrine, then of the opinions take the bits that are helpful (the seeds) and discard the things that are not (the sticks).
 
Pray the Rosary maxim , no matter what. St Louis de montfort talks about this in his book ‘secrets of the Rosary’. He said that people who are in mortal sin need more than anyone to pray the Rosary, because God grants actual graces for their conversion through this powerful prayer.

From reading your post it seems like your a practising catholic and as you said struggling with particular sins. Struggling is good , because by definition struggling means to resist and God sees your efforts and every aspect of your sin , whether there is any mitigating factors affecting your freedom and therefore culpability.

Thats why i think its good to have a regular confessor to see if he can recognise any pattern of addiction , force of habit etc . So a mortal sin for one person , may not be a mortal sin for another person . Don’t lose heart my friend and keep praying your Rosary.
 
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This is actually a very foundational teaching since early Christianity and when you think about it, it makes perfect sense.

Think about these examples:
  1. A husband is cheating on his wife with another woman. He is really nice to his wife and he gives her gifts to soothe her feelings and to compensate, but he never stops seeing the other woman or intends to stop seeing the other woman. Are his actions just or unjust?
  2. A member of upper management illegally siphons large sums of money from the company on a yearly basis. He acts nice to colleagues and employees and even gives some bonuses to allay his guilt, but he never actually stops his corrupt activity. Are his actions just or unjust?
A person can’t knowingly and willfully be unrepentant and at the same time receive God’s graces in prayer. They have to make peace with God first, and this is something that can happen instantly through an act of contrition. A person can’t come to God while holding a knife behind their back. Nor would would we ever tolerate that kind of behavior from our fellow man. Any functional relationship has to begin with respect.
 
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Well, being in mortal sin doesn’t mean necessarily that we are trying to sin more all the time. I think the majority of us (in the forum) feel sorrow after we sin but for schedule motives we can’t confess immediately. The struggle is also important, I think.

If you are talking about imperfect acts of contrition also, I agree, because, as I’ve said, some cannot plan to confess ASAP.
 
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First things first. Before praying the rosary, ask God for forgiveness of your sins. Then pray, God will hear and accept your prayer.
 
Odilon said:
First things first. Before praying the rosary, ask God for forgiveness of your sins. Then pray, God will hear and accept your prayer.
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This is really all there is to it. A person who finds themselves in sin can seek relief instantly and it will be granted.

If a person has something seriously/gravely objectionable in their life and if they refuse to ask for forgiveness, but then they keep praying, then their motives are selfish and their relationship with God is fake and disingenuous.

It is the exact same way with any relationship between two human beings. No human being with a shred of respect and dignity would expect otherwise.
 
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TK421 said:
If a person has something seriously/gravely objectionable in their life and if they refuse to ask for forgiveness, but then they keep praying, then their motives are selfish and their relationship with God is fake and disingenuous.
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That was very well said.
 
If you aren’t in a state of grace, saying the rosary will bring you to a stage where you want to be. Keep saying it and get confession, they go hand in hand.
 
The Rosary already in itself contains acts of contrition, among other things. The Rosary is the Gospels, compressed.

“Pray for us sinners…”
"Forgive us our trespasses… "

So any Rosary said with sincerity will give a person God’s graces regardless of the state of their soul beforehand.

Sanctifying Grace doesn’t happen at Confession. It happens immediately. God is infinitely Jealous; when he has an opening to the heart he enters like a bolt of lightning. Absolution happens at Confession and opens up Communion again.
 
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