Rosetta Stone to Learn Language

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It’s not too intensive but getting Transparent Language Word for the Day at least keeps the language alive. It’s not worth more than just a refresher but you can’t beat the price. Now with pronunciations.

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One of, if not the, best way to learn language is to use Assimil. It is a product that a lot of Europeans use to learn other European languages or English, but is fairly unknown within the United States.

It comes with a book that goes along with some CDs that are entirely in the target language. It is easy because it is broken down into lessons that take about 30 minutes and you do one a day.

French: amazon.com/French-Ease-Assimil-Method-Books/dp/2700520130

Make sure the order includes the book and CD’s.
 
I’m inclined to agree with this, on the assumption that grammar book also includes conversations.

When I was in college, language was required. I chose French for no particular reason. I learned to my horror within the first couple of days that most in my class had already taken French in high school. I could see defeat and doom very near to hand.

So, realizing I was very unlikely to learn the grammar as well as the others, I decided to memorize the conversations in the book. Absolutely memorize them. I found that when doing that, I retained not just words, but how to put phrases and whole sentences together. I surprised myself, no, astonished myself at how well I did, so I took a whole additional year of it which was not required, simply because I could get a good grade to bump up my average. I have forgotten a lot of it now, but I got to where I could actually think in French and sometimes do in bits now.
Andrew Pudewa of the Institute for Excellence in Writing (they provide writing and grammar curricula for homeschoolers) described using this exact technique for learning Japanese (although he used a copy of Jack and the Beanstalk). He had been in Japan to learn how to teach violin by the Suzuki Method and decided to apply that to language.

One of his courses is linguistic development through poetry memorization.
 
I wouldn’t spend the money on Rosetta Stone, it is too light on grammar and amounts to little more than very expensive flash cards. You are much better off getting a good dictionary, a good book on grammar, and making your own flash cards by listening to media in your target language. It isn’t difficult to find podcasts, news broadcasts, or soaps in the language you want to learn.

If you’re looking for French courses, I can tell you there are a lot of courses that are offered for free. You have the old foreign service institute courses that were developed by the US department of state that can be downloaded for free. I also really like French in Action. TV5 monde also offers their own course.
 
I wouldn’t spend the money on Rosetta Stone, it is too light on grammar and amounts to little more than very expensive flash cards. You are much better off getting a good dictionary, a good book on grammar, and making your own flash cards by listening to media in your target language. It isn’t difficult to find podcasts, news broadcasts, or soaps in the language you want to learn.

If you’re looking for French courses, I can tell you there are a lot of courses that are offered for free. You have the old foreign service institute courses that were developed by the US department of state that can be downloaded for free. I also really like French in Action. TV5 monde also offers their own course.
The advantage of Rosetta Stone is that you hear the language spoken a lot. But no, I wouldn’t want to learn a language with just that. There has to be study independent of that course, or you’ll have big gaps…a problem, considering the money you’ll sink into the course. Also, it is “one-set-of-pictures-fits-all”, as nearly as I can tell, and is not re-tailored to the cultures of each language. IOW, the Latin American Spanish course teaches you how to say “sandwich” and “bread”, but not “tortilla”…who wouldn’t want to learn “tortilla” right out of the gates, and the sorts of food items that are specifically typical of Latin American countries, rather than the ones that are common to every airport on Earth?
 
The advantage of Rosetta Stone is that you hear the language spoken a lot. But no, I wouldn’t want to learn a language with just that. There has to be study independent of that course, or you’ll have big gaps…a problem, considering the money you’ll sink into the course. Also, it is “one-set-of-pictures-fits-all”, as nearly as I can tell, and is not re-tailored to the cultures of each language. IOW, the Latin American Spanish course teaches you how to say “sandwich” and “bread”, but not “tortilla”…who wouldn’t want to learn “tortilla” right out of the gates, and the sorts of food items that are specifically typical of Latin American countries, rather than the ones that are common to every airport on Earth?
My main problem with Rossetta Stone is the amount of content you receive for the price. The FSI courses or library courses provide as much audio content (minus the pretty pictures) and are available completely free. If you have access to broadband you can stream hours upon hours of news and soaps in your target language for free. After two levels of RS you have basically been taught how to say, “hello my name is” and “goodbye”. Other than that, you are given a load of phrases that don’t represent the flow of an actual conversation. Try fitting “the cat is under the table” or “there are many books in my library” into a conversation. 🙂

Another thing is that you can’t ever resell your copy of the course and the license agreement is completely unfair to the end user. I understand RS has to make a profit but they’ve gone completely overboard.
 
Wow, I guess I’m one of the few who actually likes Rosetta Stone. I agree that it can be difficult to pick up on since there are no real instructions, but you get the hang of what you’re supposed to do after a bit. My husband is working on Chinese and I picked up French levels 1-5 for $80. :eek: I did take French for four years in middle/high school and one year in college, so maybe that’s why I find Rosetta Stone good? It’s kind of like a review for me…
 
Wow, I guess I’m one of the few who actually likes Rosetta Stone. I agree that it can be difficult to pick up on since there are no real instructions, but you get the hang of what you’re supposed to do after a bit. My husband is working on Chinese and I picked up French levels 1-5 for $80. :eek: I did take French for four years in middle/high school and one year in college, so maybe that’s why I find Rosetta Stone good? It’s kind of like a review for me…
🤷 I’ve been lurking here hoping to find useful systems for my kids to learn DW’s native tongue (they speak at home but very sparsely due to me being English-only and their lessons are only in Enlish). So far, only Rosetta Stone and Pimsleur even offer that language. It’s difficult to figure out how they compare.
 
If you learned a language other than English at a young age, you have what I call an “extra room” in your brain for other languages to “decorate.” Or, you may just be extraordinarily gifted in languages, you polyglot you! 😉
It’s a little of both 😉 Or maybe I just like talking so much I couldn’t bear the thought of reaching only English speakers… Haha.
I only WISH I could pick up a language the way you lay out. I do agree that immersion is the best way, but we older folks need some grammar as well. I think classes help, but not for normal conversation. For that, you need to hear and try to speak no matter how flawed the words happen to emerge.
Good for you, it’s actually better that way! I think everyone should have a solid grammar foundation, too. It helps if you know how the language works, and makes it so much easier to express similar thoughts later on! You’ll pick up a lot of things (idiomatic expressions and unexpected words) from movies you already know though.

One of my favorite examples: Youtube search freiheit MCGoodN8 Maybe you didn’t know what Freiheit meant before, but I bet you’ll be able to figure it out. 😉
 
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