Rush Limbaugh going off on Pope Francis's exhortation

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Well that is possible they have spun a lot of Pope Francis words to fit their agenda.
 
christofirst said:
This is true. If Rush’s rant is in regard to the parts of Evangelii Gaudem that talk about the economy (where else would Rush see “socialist policies”?), and Rush finds that so very disagreeable, some Catholics might have to reconsider who will carry more influence with them, Rush or the Pope.
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I don’t listen to rush, and I find the statements disagreeable. They sound an awful lot like Marxism.
 
SuperLuigi said:
:banghead: :doh2: :dts:

The idea that Pope Francis is liberal and Benedict and JPII are conservative in terms of politics is absurd.

For one thing, the Catholic Church has very clearly come out against socialism.

Rush Limbaugh and other conservatives need to stop hollering that every other this and that is socialism.

Too many times the right mistakes socialism for big government cronyism in political circles.

As far as liberals are concerned, peh, I don’t see them dolling out donations. In fact, conservatives in the USA have them beat on that 4:1----in spite of earning less on average.

People who live in the First World need to stop injecting European and American political labels on our Popes.
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The pope made comments about economic systems. If he is going to do that, he can’t avoid the labels, because they now apply since he decided to make an economic stand.
 
Genesis315 said:
I don’t know if Limbaugh is a Catholic, but various “conservative” Americans have historically had a beef with Catholic social teaching, which does not see individualism and survival of the fittest as an ethical economic system.

Neither of course is outright socialism, which outright eliminates private property and conceives of society as a class struggle.

Both systems have the same result, conflict, the exaltation of the strong over the weak, and the concentration of wealth and the means of production in the hands of a few, be it the state or some corporations.

The Catholic ideal provides public authority with the role of coordinating and directing markets and the private and public use of property toward the common good, which benefits all, rather than exploiting some for the benefit of others.
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Rush is not a Catholic but he has been very pro-life for as long as I have known of him.
 
jimmy said:
The pope made comments about economic systems. If he is going to do that, he can’t avoid the labels, because they now apply since he decided to make an economic stand.
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Pretty sure the Left isn’t jumping for joy on this part,
We must get beyond, he says, a “simple welfare mentality” (204) to passionate and compassionate love of the poor as persons loved by God. The worst neglect of the poor, he says, is the “lack of spiritual care.” The Church is called to give them “privileged and preferential religious care” (200).

Read more: ncregister.com/daily-news/evangelii-gaudium-the-joy-of-the-missionary-disciple/#ixzz2lstNmqmu
 
mary_bobo said:
Rush is not a Catholic but he has been very pro-life for as long as I have known of him.
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That’s a very good thing, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t wrong on other points. I would also argue that the same principles behind the Church’s position on the grave matter of abortion and public authority’s role with regard to it, logically lead to and support Catholic teaching regarding other human relationships and public authority’s role there as well.
 
I listened to most of Rush’s commentary.

He’s generally been quite on-board on some Catholic matters (such as abortion). But I’d hardly expect to hear Rush be any different in his worldview on the economy when anyone makes a statement, having listened to him for years.

In this case, Rush is guilty of a common problem in both entertainment and popular media: Not getting religion.

The Holy Father’s comments speak of extremism and idolatry of wealth, which can only come when *individuals *(not capitalism or free enterprise itself) hoard, reserve or otherwise gather wealth, glorifying it over God.

Rush, with the mindset he has sometimes, forgets that the Pope is more than a head of state or some other temporal leader, and that the Holy Father will speak of such worldly matters in order to lead souls to heaven, not profit.

Rush is clearly wrong here, but after much reading of the “Get Religion” blog and how the general media also make problems here, I know why he commented.
 
Since Rush Limbaugh is a conservative Protestant we can’t expect him to like everything the Pope says. He is probably suspicious of us Catholics for the fact that most Catholic Americans voted for a socialist presidential candidate not once but twice! Rush might be projecting this negative onto the Pope. I’m waiting to see if the Left will show their anger over the Pope’s comments in the exhortation which reaffirm traditional marriage and which slam secular relativism.
 
Those of us in the West are probably going to have to answer why people went hungry while we lived. That is a scary thought.
 
It looks like MSNBC is going to spin Francis right now on the Ed Show.
 
KP3243 said:
The Church is strongly against any large centralized governments I haven’t finished the Exhortation but I assume nothing has changed on this.
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As much as possible the church has tried to stay out of politics. The church present the teachings of Christ whether or not, those teachings are supported by any political party, or system. This is well summarized in the discussion on liberation theology.

The present Instruction has a much more limited and precise purpose: to draw the attention of pastors, theologians, and all the faithful to the deviations, and risks of deviation, damaging to the faith and to Christian living, that are brought about by certain forms of liberation theology which use, in an insufficiently critical manner, concepts borrowed from various currents of Marxist thought.

This warning should in no way be interpreted as a disavowal of all those who want to respond generously and with an authentic evangelical spirit to the “preferential option for the poor.” It should not at all serve as an excuse for those who maintain the attitude of neutrality and indifference in the face of the tragic and pressing problems of human misery and injustice. It is, on the contrary, dictated by the certitude that the serious ideological deviations which it points out tends inevitably to betray the cause of the poor. More than ever, it is important that numerous Christians, whose faith is clear and who are committed to live the Christian life in its fullness, become involved in the struggle for justice, freedom, and human dignity because of their love for their disinherited, oppressed, and persecuted brothers and sisters. More than ever, the Church intends to condemn abuses, injustices, and attacks against freedom, wherever they occur and whoever commits them. She intends to struggle, by her own means, for the defense and advancement of the rights of mankind, especially of the poor.

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19840806_theology-liberation_en.html

This was written under the direction of cardinal Ratzinger, and approved by the soon to be Saint John Paul the Great. Pope Francis is simply continuing to proclaim the teachings of Christ.
 
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