Sacrament of Confirmation

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What exactly are we bound to do through our acceptance of the Sacrament of Confirmation?

It is my understanding that one cannot receive the Sacrament prior to the “age of reason”. So, can any of you provide any web links or documented information as to what “vow” we are taking with God by accepting this Sacrament?

I have a number of friends who are “lost Catholics” that while still practicing Christianity through various Protestant sects, are confirmed Catholics?

Are they sinning? If so, what are their sins? And, lastly, where is the information found?

thanks!!
troy
 
We receive the graces necessary to live out our Catholic Faith in the world from the Sacrament of Confirmation. We are called to “Conform” ourselves to Christ with Confirmation and to live out our Baptismal promises with out fear.

Do people fail to do this? Yes many do. I believe it is because few receive the Sacrament of Confirmation in a state of Sanctifying Grace. Most people do not make a really good Confession just before receiving Confirmation or Marriage for that matter. Some may even receive these Sacraments in a state of mortal sin which prohibits the reception of any graces from the Saraments.
 
The Sacrament of Confirmation can be administered to infants, as indeed is the usual practice in the Eastern Rites of the Catholic Church. The requirement of the Age of Reason is a disciplinary practice of the Latin Rite, not inferior to the Eastern practice, but emphasizing different aspects of the same mystery.

Are those who have received confirmation and yet leave the Catholic Church for a Protestant sect sinning if they are still Christian? The answer is yes provided that the other requirements of mortal or venial sin are present. The sin is that of Heresy. Even baptized Catholics are bound to stay in the Catholic Church under pain of mortal sin. This is not particular to those that are confirmed. Consent of the will and sufficient knowledge are necessary for the sin to be mortal, but if one of these requirements or all are partially lacking, the sin may still be venial.
 
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Katholish:
The Sacrament of Confirmation can be administered to infants, as indeed is the usual practice in the Eastern Rites of the Catholic Church. The requirement of the Age of Reason is a disciplinary practice of the Latin Rite, not inferior to the Eastern practice, but emphasizing different aspects of the same mystery.

Are those who have received confirmation and yet leave the Catholic Church for a Protestant sect sinning if they are still Christian? The answer is yes provided that the other requirements of mortal or venial sin are present. The sin is that of Heresy. Even baptized Catholics are bound to stay in the Catholic Church under pain of mortal sin. This is not particular to those that are confirmed. Consent of the will and sufficient knowledge are necessary for the sin to be mortal, but if one of these requirements or all are partially lacking, the sin may still be venial.
Katholish – this is EXACTLY what I’m looking for. Do you know where this information is found in a legitimate source, such as a book or a Church sponsored website?

I don’t mean to say you aren’t a “legitimate source”, but I have a problem with taking this information to a family member or friend without a good reference point. I hope you understand.

Thanks!!

Troy
 
I assume that the evidence that you ask for is concerning the sin of heresy, and not the age of reason and confimation.

Canon Law:
Can. 751 Heresy is the obstinate denial or doubt, after baptism, of a truth which must be believed by divine and catholic faith. Apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith. Schism is the withdrawal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or from communion with the members of the Church subject to him.

Catechism of the Catholic Church (Italics added):
2088 The first commandment requires us to nourish and protect our faith with prudence and vigilance, and to reject everything that is opposed to it. There are various ways of sinning against faith:
Voluntary doubt about the faith disregards or refuses to hold as true what God has revealed and the Church proposes for belief. Involuntary doubt refers to hesitation in believing, difficulty in overcoming objections connected with the faith, or also anxiety aroused by its obscurity. If deliberately cultivated doubt can lead to spiritual blindness.

2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”[11]
 
I HAVE TAUGHT AN 8TH GRADE CCD CONFIRMATION CLASS AND I DO NOT BELEIVE THESE CHILDREN ARE READY TO RECEIVE THE SACRAMENT. I BELEIVE HIGH SCHOOL IS THE BEST TIME FOR CONFIRMATION.
 
Regarding the post from ‘Dawncurole’, be careful not to confuse your confusion with the Catholic Faith. The Catholic Church says that confirmation can be conferred upon infants. Since this is so, how can 8th graders be too young??? Your hesitancy regarding their ‘readiness’ probably stems from their grossly deficient catechesis prior to them coming to your class - but this is a teaching deficit, NOT to be confused with readiness for reception of this Sacrament. There is no ‘rite of passage’ sacrament in the Catholic Church. Confirmation IS NOT about me “making my own choice to be Catholic”, nor “confirming MY faith”, nor “becoming an adult in the Faith”.

Read the Catechism about what this Sacrament is, and realize that Confirmation is NOT something we DO, but something we RECEIVE - just as Baptism and Eucharist are.

Confirmation is God strengthening the soul for the rigors of the Christian life - Quoting Vatican II on Confirmation: “By the Sacrament of Confirmation they are more perfectly bound to the Church and are endowed with the special strength of the Holy Spirit.” Notice how there is NOTHING in this about “making my own choice”, “becoming an adult Catholic”, etc.
 
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Katholish:
I assume that the evidence that you ask for is concerning the sin of heresy, and not the age of reason and confimation.

Canon Law:
Can. 751 Heresy is the obstinate denial or doubt, after baptism, of a truth which must be believed by divine and catholic faith. Apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith. Schism is the withdrawal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or from communion with the members of the Church subject to him.

Catechism of the Catholic Church (Italics added):
2088 The first commandment requires us to nourish and protect our faith with prudence and vigilance, and to reject everything that is opposed to it. There are various ways of sinning against faith:
Voluntary doubt about the faith disregards or refuses to hold as true what God has revealed and the Church proposes for belief. Involuntary doubt refers to hesitation in believing, difficulty in overcoming objections connected with the faith, or also anxiety aroused by its obscurity. If deliberately cultivated doubt can lead to spiritual blindness.

2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”[11]
good stuff, Katholish!!

that is just what i was seeking, and although I started to look into those documents, i just wasn’t sure where to look.

thank you so much!

troy
 
I’ve just skimmed everyone’s postings but I’ve not found the anwer to a question I’ve had about Confirmation: Since I was not raised Catholic but joined by a Profession of Faith, I was not confirmed by the Bishop and the laying on of hands… Have I really been Confirmed if the Bishop did not call down the Holy Spirit? Is the Bishop’s confirmation just for kids? This has me concerned. If I’m to be a Catholic who defends the faith, shouldn’t I be “armed” for the conflict? thanks, ktu
 
The Bishop is the Ordinary Minister of Confirmation. During the preparation for the Easter Vigil all Catechumens and Candidates are “Sent” to the Bishop who prays over them. This is likened to the Early Church where those seeking union with or Baptism in the Church were sent to the Bishop. Today Bishops do not personally Baptize and Confirm every Catechumen and Candidate as they did in the early Church. A Bishop has your name submitted either during the Rite of Sending/Rite of Election or in some other way. He then grants your Pastor the authority to Baptize and Confirm within his authority. Your Pastor may have layed hands on you and Confirmed you but he did this representing your Bishop.

Sometimes a Bishop also authorizes a Pastor or another priest in the diocese to Confirm for him when necessary in other circumstances outside of RCIA and the Rite of Reception.
 
Kateyu, if you are now Catholic but have not received the sacrament of Confirmation, you should by all means do so. Though it may not be necessary for Salvation, it is an important matter.
 
Thank-you so much for the replies! The pastor, a Monsignor(sp?), put his hand in the air over first, myself, and then the other candidate, speaking the words that accepted us into the Catholic Church. It was a long time ago and I never really thought much about it until recently - and of course, I’ve forgotten all he said! Still, it gives me peace to know that he was acting correctly. He would have been - he was very close to the Archbishop.

I have a great love and respect for all our Bishops.
thank-you, ktu
 
There is a book on the history of the sacraments that is very enlightening (I’m at work and can’t think of the title right now but I’ll get it and post it). It help me to understand the Sacrament of Confirmation (and all the others, too) much better. Our youngest son was being confirmed and my husband, his twin sons and the rest of his family are Protestant and of course, questions came up about the sacraments, confirmation in particular. This book helped.

The 3 Sacraments of Initiation, in the beginning of the church, were all done together. In the first centuries, there was much persecution and those who wanted to be Christion had to go “underground”. These catechumens needed someone to witness for them for everyone was afraid of “infiltrators” that wold turn them over to the authorities. This is where the “sponsor” came from. Catechumens had to go through rigorous training in the faith, sometimes for years.

At the end of this training period - the Easter Vigil - the catechuemns would gather in a secret place and the sacraments were administered. They would stand facing west and denounce Satan, then turn to the east and praise and thank God and accept the faith. Attendants would then prepare the catechumen for Baptism. The catechumen would completely undress and walk into the baptismal “pool” (full immersion). This pool was sometimes shaped like a womb! The bishop would baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The catechumen would come out of the water and put on a white robe signifying their own new creation. The bishop would then anoint them them with the holy chrism oil and call down upon them the Holy Spirit (confirmation) to prepare them for the battle of waging war against Satan. The catechumens were then escorted into the “church” (this is all done in secret), the congregation would accept them into their community and the catechumens would receive their first Holy Communion. Usually this would all culminate around midnight. Of course, at this time, the catechumens were adults.

It’s all very beautiful, the way it is explained in the book. The author gives a catechumen a name and you follow his journey into becoming Christian. It gives you a whole new outlook on these 3 sacraments in particular. The story paints a very vivid picture in your mind of what it must’ve been like to become a Christian back then. The book then goes on to explain how we came to separate the sacraments and why we do them and when we do them. It had to do with the rapid growth of the church in Constantine’s time and logistics - the growth of the world population in general. The book is very enlightening and I suggest it to anyone who wants to understand the sacraments more fully.

I’ll post the name of the book shortly.
 
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DianJo:
There is a book on the history of the sacraments that is very enlightening (I’m at work and can’t think of the title right now but I’ll get it and post it). It help me to understand the Sacrament of Confirmation (and all the others, too) much better. Our youngest son was being confirmed and my husband, his twin sons and the rest of his family are Protestant and of course, questions came up about the sacraments, confirmation in particular. This book helped.

The 3 Sacraments of Initiation, in the beginning of the church, were all done together. In the first centuries, there was much persecution and those who wanted to be Christion had to go “underground”. These catechumens needed someone to witness for them for everyone was afraid of “infiltrators” that wold turn them over to the authorities. This is where the “sponsor” came from. Catechumens had to go through rigorous training in the faith, sometimes for years.

At the end of this training period - the Easter Vigil - the catechuemns would gather in a secret place and the sacraments were administered. They would stand facing west and denounce Satan, then turn to the east and praise and thank God and accept the faith. Attendants would then prepare the catechumen for Baptism. The catechumen would completely undress and walk into the baptismal “pool” (full immersion). This pool was sometimes shaped like a womb! The bishop would baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The catechumen would come out of the water and put on a white robe signifying their own new creation. The bishop would then anoint them them with the holy chrism oil and call down upon them the Holy Spirit (confirmation) to prepare them for the battle of waging war against Satan. The catechumens were then escorted into the “church” (this is all done in secret), the congregation would accept them into their community and the catechumens would receive their first Holy Communion. Usually this would all culminate around midnight. Of course, at this time, the catechumens were adults.

It’s all very beautiful, the way it is explained in the book. The author gives a catechumen a name and you follow his journey into becoming Christian. It gives you a whole new outlook on these 3 sacraments in particular. The story paints a very vivid picture in your mind of what it must’ve been like to become a Christian back then. The book then goes on to explain how we came to separate the sacraments and why we do them and when we do them. It had to do with the rapid growth of the church in Constantine’s time and logistics - the growth of the world population in general. The book is very enlightening and I suggest it to anyone who wants to understand the sacraments more fully.

I’ll post the name of the book shortly.
**The name of the book is: A New Look at the Sacraments by William J. Bausch. **Excellent reading.
 
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