Sacramental Fees sheet I got by accident

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You got a check for 50.00???

I’m going to take a deep breath and log off now, so I don’t end up posting what is REALLY on my mind right now that will get me banned for certain.
yep, I told the hotel no. they said it’s policy. hence me giving it to my church.
 
yep, I told the hotel no. they said it’s policy. hence me giving it to my church.
Father,

I was outraged you were only given a very small small stipend.

I was outraged by the Bridezilla or Groomzilla demands placed on you.

That is about as charitable as I can be in response to hearing your experience.
 
Father,

I was outraged you were only given a very small small stipend.

I was outraged by the Bridezilla or Groomzilla demands placed on you.

That is about as charitable as I can be in response to hearing your experience.
I’m more outraged at the “half off” at the buffet.

Sure, we can talk all day about how people who can’t afford to make a donation should never feel pressure to do so, and I mean that 110% (although if they’re spending $35K on everything else, $50 is way out of proportion–they probably tipped the limo driver more).

All that aside, I don’t know of any Vegal Hotel that can’t afford to comp a free buffet, especially in those circumstances. Half-off still means they expect you to pay the other half. That part isn’t just cheap, it’s a downright insult.
 
I’m more outraged at the “half off” at the buffet.

Sure, we can talk all day about how people who can’t afford to make a donation should never feel pressure to do so, and I mean that 110% (although if they’re spending $35K on everything else, $50 is way out of proportion–they probably tipped the limo driver more).

All that aside, I don’t know of any Vegal Hotel that can’t afford to comp a free buffet, especially in those circumstances. Half-off still means they expect you to pay the other half. That part isn’t just cheap, it’s a downright insult.
C’mon father our newly installed Bishop told the parishoners to stop taking the priests out for lunch because they are gaining too much weight! 😃

My confessor told me this joke last Sunday. 🙂
 
"Can. 1264 Unless the law has provided otherwise, it is for a meeting of the bishops of a province: …

2: to set a limit on the offerings on the occasion of the administration of sacraments and sacramentals."

As the canon says, the bishops of the province determine the amount of these offerings. I don’t know what relation, if any, this sheet of “fees” has to what the bishops of the province have determined.

Dan
 
"Can. 1264 Unless the law has provided otherwise, it is for a meeting of the bishops of a province: …

2: to set a limit on the offerings on the occasion of the administration of sacraments and sacramentals."

As the canon says, the bishops of the province determine the amount of these offerings. I don’t know what relation, if any, this sheet of “fees” has to what the bishops of the province have determined.

Dan
I don’t either. Does this rule only apply to the Bishop’s attendance fee, or to the limit on the whole package?
 
I Reconciliation with First Holy Communion- 35.00
Confirmation- 40.00
Confirmation and Gown 15.00
note: (8th grade individual enrollment fee, 80.00
Fees for Confirmation are usually collected with the enrollment in 7th grade.

Seems like a bargain in price, but seems so odd to be priced in this way.

Is this Kosher?
my guess is children prepare for first confession and first communion in 2nd or 3rd grade so that class is lumped together and they all use the same book for a 1 or 2 year program. Most publishers sell packages with a 1st communion book, Reconciliation book and supporting materials so the price sounds in the ballpark for one of those packages, with possibly a small charge to cover a retreat, and it sounds like parents pay once for the whole preparation program for the 2 sacraments, rather than paying annually.

Sounds as if Confirmation is in 8th grade, the preparation is 2 years beginning in 7th grade, so parents pay one fee for the whole preparation program, rather than annually, and that there is one book or package for each student, usually sold with a text, journal and some supporting materials. Sounds like the additional charge is for the expenses for the sacrament itself, possibly a retreat, gown (?) and so forth. I don’t get the 8th grade individual enrollment fee, but at $80 sounds like a retreat or some other extra activities are included

I don’t think the “fee sheet” is about the stipend to the visiting bishop or other priests at all, but about costs of the preparation program and events surrounding celebration of the sacrament.
 
my guess is children prepare for first confession and first communion in 2nd or 3rd grade so that class is lumped together and they all use the same book for a 1 or 2 year program. Most publishers sell packages with a 1st communion book, Reconciliation book and supporting materials so the price sounds in the ballpark for one of those packages, with possibly a small charge to cover a retreat, and it sounds like parents pay once for the whole preparation program for the 2 sacraments, rather than paying annually.

Sounds as if Confirmation is in 8th grade, the preparation is 2 years beginning in 7th grade, so parents pay one fee for the whole preparation program, rather than annually, and that there is one book or package for each student, usually sold with a text, journal and some supporting materials. Sounds like the additional charge is for the expenses for the sacrament itself, possibly a retreat, gown (?) and so forth. I don’t get the 8th grade individual enrollment fee, but at $80 sounds like a retreat or some other extra activities are included

I don’t think the “fee sheet” is about the stipend to the visiting bishop or other priests at all, but about costs of the preparation program and events surrounding celebration of the sacrament.
Okay. Also, I did forget to add the yearly fee.
Just as she actually typed it, as follows:

One student@$135.00; Two students @$185.00; Three+ @$235.00

I did not add that in because that was not listed under the sacramental Fees schedule.
I think it should be more clear. This is a confusing fee schedule.

I’m also concerned about her love affair with the @ symbol. Her closing line with name and title is followed by
@ The parish office (xxx)xxx-xxxx
 
I agree, she also needs a course in remedial business communication

let’s be kind maybe she is a volunteer.

Yes the RE fees sound high but that is because they are artificially low down here, and do not even begin to reflect the true cost. Without including overhead (a/c and utilities, building maintenance and so forth) the true cost per student would be in excess of $125, we only charge $25, and that is simply to cover the textbook and some (not all) classroom supplies. There is no separate charge for sacramental programs and RCIA is free to adults and children (and also costs much more per candidate). We also don’t include extras that are not required by canon law or diocesan requirments (gowns, candles, photos and whatnot)

bottom line every parish has to decide how it envisions its mission, which should be to celebrate liturgy and sacraments and evangelize, so these things should be normal operating expense. But there is a growing trend to think, let the parents pay for services rendered to their families.
 
Maybe it is time to let the families pay for the exact cost and give them a reality check. Last Sunday I was lectured by a mother that we should provide summer catechism camps. When I told her that the parent should be the primary catechist she said that being a mother was already enough. But it looks like it is not enough that I am a full time worker, husband, father, housekeeper and catechist, she also expects me to take a week of vacation in order to be available for a summer camp.
 
Maybe it is time to let the families pay for the exact cost and give them a reality check. Last Sunday I was lectured by a mother that we should provide summer catechism camps. When I told her that the parent should be the primary catechist she said that being a mother was already enough. But it looks like it is not enough that I am a full time worker, husband, father, housekeeper and catechist, she also expects me to take a week of vacation in order to be available for a summer camp.
The priest I know, had an episode with a lady who demanded that he teach a class to all the boys in the parish to inspire them to be priests. He’s retired by the way, yet still serves the parish. She stated that since he was retired and not doing much with his free time that he should do this once a week for all grade levels.
He is doing a lot with his so called free time. If she ever went to Mass she would notice he is there doing it at least 3-4 days a week. Not to mention hospital visits and he has other activities.
 
Maybe it is time to let the families pay for the exact cost and give them a reality check. Last Sunday I was lectured by a mother that we should provide summer catechism camps. When I told her that the parent should be the primary catechist she said that being a mother was already enough. But it looks like it is not enough that I am a full time worker, husband, father, housekeeper and catechist, she also expects me to take a week of vacation in order to be available for a summer camp.
Here is the funny part in all of this. The parents seem to have forgotten a promise that they made when they gave their consent. “Will you accept children loving from God and raise them according to the laws of Christ and His Church?” That is what the couple agrees to doing. Serving as the child’s first catechist is part and parcel of this responsibility.

Unfortunately, as many of us have seen, parents seem to conveniently forget that promise and abdicate their catechetical responsibilities to the parish.
 
Maybe it is time to let the families pay for the exact cost and give them a reality check. Last Sunday I was lectured by a mother that we should provide summer catechism camps. When I told her that the parent should be the primary catechist she said that being a mother was already enough. But it looks like it is not enough that I am a full time worker, husband, father, housekeeper and catechist, she also expects me to take a week of vacation in order to be available for a summer camp.
what i wouldn’t give for more students at my PREP class
we actually waved the fees for highschool students so they wouldn’t make the fees an excuse not to come. still, i only had 2 students who came almost every sunday. one showed up only during the first class, the other one was on and off in the fall and winter, and then never saw her again in the spring
 
I can’t believe they put gowns on Jr. High Confirmation candidates, ours would protest, but maybe you could get away with it for younger kids. This diocese discourages gowns, stoles or any other add-ons that are not part of the Confirmation liturgy
We made our confirmation in 6th grade, so we’re around 11 - 12 years old. Every class wore cotton red gowns so that we all looked the same. Up until the year we were confirmed, we also had a stole with our confirmation name. Unfortunately, the year I was confirmed, someone had the brilliant idea of giving us a brick with our names on it. I remember my friends and I thinking it was the most stupid thing in the world. At least the stole you can keep as a remembrance of that special day, but a brick? We ended up sticking it in my mother’s garden.

I don’t know how much it cost for us to get confirmed - in terms of booklets, trips, etc. I do know that we had to do a lot of volunteer work, so my mother had us volunteer at hospices for the homeless in the city. For me and my girlfriends, we volunteered at a women and children’s hospice run by the Mercy sisters. It was some of the best experiences I ever had… and a real eye opener about the world around me. I hope confirmation candidates still do things like this.
 
We made our confirmation in 6th grade, so we’re around 11 - 12 years old. Every class wore cotton red gowns so that we all looked the same. Up until the year we were confirmed, we also had a stole with our confirmation name. Unfortunately, the year I was confirmed, someone had the brilliant idea of giving us a brick with our names on it. I remember my friends and I thinking it was the most stupid thing in the world. At least the stole you can keep as a remembrance of that special day, but a brick? We ended up sticking it in my mother’s garden.

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sounds like you did this around the same era my kids had pet rocks they decorated at their confirmation retreats, they are probably still in the yard of our old house, tripping people up. I was confirmed in 6th grade and my sole memory is that we had to wear red beanies, the only thing I can think of off hand worse than a robe. I haven’t threatened our class with robes yet, but I do bring a couple of sweaters for girls who need full coverage, and have threatened to make them wear red Cleveland Indians or Detroit Red Wings t-shirts if they offend against modesty.
 
I haven’t threatened our class with robes yet, but I do bring a couple of sweaters for girls who need full coverage, and have threatened to make them wear red Cleveland Indians or Detroit Red Wings t-shirts if they offend against modesty.
😃 👍

In our case, I really need to do something about the Moms - gracious, you should have seen some of them, this year - I couldn’t believe the amount of middle-aged upper arm flesh that was showing. Next year - shawls. Every Mom gets a shawl. :o
 
😃 👍

In our case, I really need to do something about the Moms - gracious, you should have seen some of them, this year - I couldn’t believe the amount of middle-aged upper arm flesh that was showing. Next year - shawls. Every Mom gets a shawl. :o
not to mention sponsors, next year I may bring a box of black plastic garbage bags with scissors to cut holes for their heads. we are still talking about an RCIA godparent who showed up at the Easter Vigil at our old parish looking fresh from a job out on the street.
 
not to mention sponsors, next year I may bring a box of black plastic garbage bags with scissors to cut holes for their heads. we are still talking about an RCIA godparent who showed up at the Easter Vigil at our old parish looking fresh from a job out on the street.
That brings up an interesting point for me. RCIA is not a slam bam thank you Mr/Mrs/Ms/Miss program. Shouldn’t candidates have a better idea of what to consider in a godparent to begin with? Do you mean godparent, or sponsor? Anyway, I would think the person in either title be a person who has at least been to Mass a few times to know what is appropriate or not.
 
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