Wow.You people are the reason why i’m leaving Catholicism and going far far away from religion.
I’ll just have to somehow find a way to accept going to hell,because i can’t be like you people.
I thought Catholicism was something better and different but really its no different from muslim extremists or Baptist Christians with your requirements,rules,judgments,condemnations,fear mongering and hurts etc.
I guess Catholicism will have to remain an “exclusive club” that is only for people that are only willing to wear skirts knee length or below,and that gossip about other’s clothes not being to their modesty standards.
I don’t want this extremist mindset and people like on this thread have caused me much much tears,fear and agony.
I do wish to be a normal healthy human being.I do wish to wear skirt that are above knee length and don’t fit into the modesty police on heres standards,i do wish to wear normal swimwear at the beach,and i do wish to wear makeup etc.
Some Catholic women even go so far as to on one hand complain that they don’t want to be judged or have misconceptions about them for wearing a mantilla or headscarf while in the next breath say things like “i see women down the street dressed so immodestly” and “which parent would want their daughter dressed as a streetworker” and they don’t even see how what they are saying is wrong or the hypocrisy or irony of their words.
One of you even mentioned that you believed we should pocive each others clothing.
Yeah right,because policing peoples clothes and refusing services to people wearing certain clothing that has really worked for Iranians or for muslims?
Personally,i also prefer people to wear neat clothes but i understand the difference between my personal preference vs imposing MY views on others.
I’m not big on micro micro miniskirts,or mens tshirts with pictures of womens naked silhouettes on them,or tops that push your boobs half outsifde over the top like a “balcony” but at the same time,if i had a shop i wouldn’t refuse to serve people dressed like this.
I don’t know why people choose what to wear each day,it can be many varying reasons and i don’t consider it right for me to make assumptions from their dress that day about their charcter,life situation,heart,morals etc…
I’d be lying if i said i was crying now with much fear and agony.
So i hope you people on his thread and similar catholics out there enjoy your life of excessive focus on others attire,but just keep in my that there is someone at the receiving end that is possibly getting very affected or hurt by your actions and maybe also turned off from the Church.
I am one of the them.
Next time your viewing that girl “down the street” and whining “how could her mother let her dress like that” keep in mind that the better way is to treat others how we ourselves would wish to be treated.
Hi Music 2. You make a number of good points here. Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face however.
Leaving Catholicism because of a disagreement over a dress code is a bit like taking
umbrage at a “no shirt, no shoes, no service …” sign at a restaurant – and deciding not to eat again.
Later in your post you seem to summon up images of someone who might have gone too far … so you agree there might BE such a thing as that. Your recommendations of charity at all times (my impression of what you were saying anyhow) are always a good thing.
In one sense Jesus Christ being " … the way, the truth and the life" and being taught to the nations by His Church is the big thing – and little things can sometimes get in the way of that. I’m sure the occasional “Christian” relishes correcting another too much and needs to read Jesus’ “cast the beam from your own eye” first parable again.
On the other hand Jesus has a parable that includes a dress code. And it is quite forceful. The man who attends the wedding feast without a wedding garment (and has no answer for WHY) is bodily bound and thrown out of the King’s feast in one of Jesus’ parables. The insinuation was that that guest had NO sense of what was appropriate and was considered to be INSULTING the guest of honor (The King’s Son).
A poor person wearing the best they have, or the cleanest they have – is one thing.
A proud, defiant, or deliberately provocative person wearing distracting clothes to attract attention to themselves in opposition to the worship is another.
I’m from California and have seen casual wear that could seem appropriate - and other things I’d be distracted by.
Not just women showing off sexy or revealing fashions - but things like overtly gang-look apparel, party costumes, a sandwich board advertisement, frogman gear,
cross dressing (only some of which I’ve actually seen worn to mass, but it makes the point that clothing can be inappropriate).
Of course deliberately inappropriate is worse than accidentally so - but there should be SOME standards for worship (even if most of us prefer that these go unsaid until necessary).
This priest seemed to have a nice thorough look at the matter and a well reasoned conclusion (video is halfway down the page) :
colleenhammond.com/dressing-with-dignity/abc-news-church-leaders-blush-at-casual-catholic-dress/
