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This must be your second question?
First, I would absolutely ecstatic if any of my family or friends went to Mass and took communion. It would be great cause for celebration.
If one of them KNEW and UNDERSTOOD the protocols and violated them , and was of sound mind, I would suggest a little chat with the Priest.
When I came back to the church I had no idea i should confess decades of mortal sins before Communion. But hey, the Cathedral is still standing. And no one judge me , which would have made me think, at that point, quite negative thoughts.
Whats the saying
’ come as you are, thats how I want you’
If the person sharing communion with their dog was affected by mental illness, or had a drug history, then what can you do, except again inform the Priest to ensure the Eucharist is consumed at the alter.
We are called to be loving, forgiving, accepting, not judgemental. At least that person is at Mass. A great start!
I volunteer in a facility that holds Mass where the residents remain seated, the Priest comes to each person and gives Communion. We still have accidents where the Eucharist might fall out of hands or mouths. Its handled with Love.
Heres a question, a person brings their seeing eye dog, they drop the Eucharist, their dog picks it up, or eats it, is Jesus really going to be judgemental, strike that person down with thunderbolts? or forgive and move on? Or a person afflicted with a disease that causes trembles etc.
The dog may be trained to pick up what is dropped. The good Lord connected service dog with person needing it , so…
Can you tell us the full story about this? We might be able to give more beneficial advice.
I can think of many variables regarding an incident such as this.
Peace
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**As I said in previous posts, this has already been resolved. I only want to be “prepared” if there is a “next time”, for other Roman Catholics to think about this and be aware of it all, and for all of us to learn more about our Faith. **
I can see that you read the thread. Thank you! The answer to your questions in your first paragraph is bolded in my own quote above.What are you hoping to accomplish with this thread? Are you hoping to find answers applicable to a specific situation you encountered? Your posts are confusing.
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Did this actually happen and if it did what exactly was your response in the real-life situation?
No.…]
Is this anything to do with the sick , cancerous 4yo German Shepherd?
Sacrilege is a crime under canon law, and removing the Eucharist for a sacrilegious purpose is a crime (canon 1367). Just like in civil law, in order for an act to be a crime, the act must meet the definition of the crime as the law sees it.Thank you, Father. I am not meaning to give you a difficult time at all. It could be a language (meaning English) thing that I was not quite getting it. Thank you for your patience, not taking it personally, and not assuming that I understood. Thank you. You are a good teacher.
Please see in bold within your post, above…
Father David, now that I have given you the information, and since I have already handled it all, as my Pastor said, “very lovingly and with fidelity (loyalty) to the teachings of the Church” [No, it did not happen at our parish], …
Thank you, Father. I am not meaning to give you a difficult time at all. It could be a language (meaning English) thing that I was not quite getting it. Thank you for your patience, not taking it personally, and not assuming that I understood. Thank you. You are a good teacher.
Please see in bold within your post, above…
Father David, now that I have given you the information, and since I have already handled it all, as my Pastor said, “very lovingly and with fidelity (loyalty) to the teachings of the Church” [No, it did not happen at our parish], my real questions now are:
Preface: Since this “whole thing” appears to be from a lack of knowledge, and as the refrain states, “El que no sabe es como el que no ve.” S/he who does not know is like s/he who does not see. This refers to ignorance may isolate a human being and keep him/her from enjoying life, but I think it is appropriate here. Then, therefore:
Yes, being very aware of the language “it” is offered in, I do invite others to conferences, lectures, courses I attend because the “personal touch” is many times better. Of course, if the person is bilingual, there is no problem at all.
- How can catechists (religion teachers) better “transmit” or inculcate (culturally for me, it is the Parents who inculcate) the Faith to/for (which is the word?) those in RCIA/RICA?
- How may the laity/faithful/parishioners be encouraged to do Continued Religious Education (CRE) after the Sacraments of Initiation have been received? Am referring to mature adults say 30+.
- How may those who are “not interested” in being catechists take CRE classes to delve deeper in the “teachings” (what is the word? I do not want to call “it” laws) of the Church?
- What can/may be done so that information about the CRE “courses” be publicized and its/their availability is easily known – without being “an insider”?
However, am only one person.
Some people say leave it to the Priest or to the Pastor. Why should everything be thrown at the Priest’s lap? There are many things only a Priest may do, but there are others with which the laity can help or do with the Priest’s or Pastor’s direction.
Thanks again, Father. Sure hope am expressing myself better.
Let Nothing Disturb You
Let nothing disturb you,
Let nothing frighten you,
All things are passing away:
God never changes.
Patience,
Obtains all things,
Whoever has God
Lacks nothing:
God alone suffices.
Santa Teresa de Jesús `
(Santa Teresa de Ávila
España: 1515—1582)
Thank you, Father.Sacrilege is a crime under canon law, and removing the Eucharist for a sacrilegious purpose is a crime (canon 1367). Just like in civil law, in order for an act to be a crime, the act must meet the definition of the crime as the law sees it.
In order for an act (or intended act) to actually be sacrilege, certain conditions must be present. It must be done out of hatred, or disrespect or disdain or (maybe) ambivalence to the Christian faith. An act done out of ignorance or even a misguided or misinformed sense of purpose is not typically sacrilegious. Once a person has been informed, then it might be sacrilege.
Regardless of the reason, if anyone is taking away a consecrated Host from the Communion procession, that is not acceptable. If someone sees that happening, the priest must be informed about it–immediately. Let the priest handle things from there.
That is just Pope Francis’s opinion, NOT a Church teaching. Big difference. I think our hearts and wills will be on much more important things. I loved my pets and still do but they are NOT human! God Bless.Memaw
YesThank you, Father.
You state, “If someone sees that happening, the priest must be informed about it–immediately.” By “immediately” do you mean right during that Mass?
That is going to depend on the exact circumstances. I know I keep writing this, there’s a reason for it. The point is that no one should walk away from the place where Holy Communion is being distributed (i.e. in front of the minister) carrying a consecrated Host. Exactly “how” to react will depend on too many factors to give one single answer.Of course, it is understood that if there is another parish Priest in the nave or who came to distribute CH then tell him, but should the Mass be interruped by someone going up to the celebrant?
Of course, every parish religious education program needs to address this topic. This is something to be taught in “First Communion” class, both for children and adults (RCIA).If people were or had been properly catechised, I do not think this would happen, that is unless the person was taking the CH for a black mass or something like that, but this thread is not about those cases.
My questions remain to you, Father David, and to others who are DREs, etc. at their pariches, about catechising that would prevent this.
- How can catechists (religion teachers) better “transmit” or inculcate (culturally for me, it is the Parents who inculcate) the Faith to/for (which is the word?) those in RCIA/RICA?
- How may the laity/faithful/parishioners be encouraged to do Continued Religious Education (CRE) after the Sacraments of Initiation have been received? Am referring to mature adults say 30+.
- How may those who are “not interested” in being catechists take CRE classes to delve deeper in the “teachings” (what is the word? I do not want to call “it” laws) of the Church?
- What can/may be done so that information about the CRE “courses” be publicized and its/their availability is easily known – without being “an insider”?
Thanks again to everyone for keeping the thread on the subject - preventing the giving of CH to animals.
Have a great Sunday, everyone!![]()
Let Nothing Disturb You
Let nothing disturb you,
Let nothing frighten you,
All things are passing away:
God never changes.
Patience,
Obtains all things,
Whoever has God
Lacks nothing:
God alone suffices.
These are rather important and complicated questions. I’m certain I can’t answer them in the limited space available in a forum like this, nor do I know the fullanswers to them. If I did, I would be implementing them.Santa Teresa de Jesús `
(Santa Teresa de Ávila
España: 1515—1582)
That is going to depend on the exact circumstances. I know I keep writing this, there’s a reason for it. The point is that no one should walk away from the place where Holy Communion is being distributed (i.e. in front of the minister) carrying a consecrated Host. Exactly “how” to react will depend on too many factors to give one single answer.
Thank you, Father.Yes
That is going to depend on the exact circumstances. I know I keep writing this, there’s a reason for it. The point is that no one should walk away from the place where Holy Communion is being distributed (i.e. in front of the minister) carrying a consecrated Host. Exactly “how” to react will depend on too many factors to give one single answer.
Of course, every parish religious education program needs to address this topic. This is something to be taught in “First Communion” class, both for children and adults (RCIA).
These are rather important and complicated questions. I’m certain I can’t answer them in the limited space available in a forum like this, nor do I know the fullanswers to them. If I did, I would be implementing them.
Understood.That is going to depend on the exact circumstances. I know I keep writing this, there’s a reason for it.
Yes, as an EMHC, I had to walk very fast after a person who tried to do so. I had the Precious Blood; therefore, had to be careful, and there was no Usher close by to help me out. Also, in helping train new EMHCs, I act out some things to help the person being trained. Of course the training is done with forms (I mean hosts that are not consecrated).The point is that no one should walk away from the place where Holy Communion is being distributed (i.e. in front of the minister) carrying a consecrated Host.
There are prayers Spanish-speakers have that are very traditional that may be able to help with this topic at RICA (Spanish RCIA). I do not know these prayers in English.Of course, every parish religious education program needs to address this topic. This is something to be taught in “First Communion” class, both for children and adults (RCIA).
Thank you, Father, for validating the questions.These are rather important and complicated questions. I’m certain I can’t answer them in the limited space available in a forum like this, nor do I know the full answers to them. If I did, I would be implementing them.
The theme is the same.These questions you ask, while good, largely have nothing to do with your original topic, at least not directly. You seem to be derailing your own thread.![]()
I have seen how threads can go off topic. That was the best way I could write my questions for certain reasons.You’ve just been very quick to jump on any poster who’s posted anything not directly related to your two topics. The questions you asked about getting people more involved in catachesis are very general.
What happens the majority of times is that the catechist is not a trained teacher, i.e., teaching is not his/her profession. What you mention is all about proper catechizing which is best done with methods that are, among others, culturally correct for “the student” for lack of better words right now. There are a few catechists who are specifically trained to share the Faith with those who are mentally challenged. These are only two examples of having to “teach” differently to different people.Quite frankly, if I was a DRE or involved in some teaching capacity, I would be far more worried about educating people who are ignorant on the necessity of being in the state of grace for worthy reception of Communion, ignorant about Confession and ignorant about the Real Presence than I would be about educating people not to give Communion to their pets.
.Yes, making sure people don’t give Communion to their pet is important but really, how many people are bringing their pet to Mass in the first place, let alone sneaking Communion to it? I can assure you the number is miniscule in comparison to the number of people poorly catechised and receiving Communion unworthily each week. In my opinion there are bigger fish to fry


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LETANÍA DE REPARACIÓN
A NUESTRO SEÑOR EN LA EUCARISTÍA
(Para uso privado solamente)
Señor, Ten piedad de nosotros.
Cristo, Ten piedad de nosotros.
Señor, Ten piedad de nosotros.
Cristo, Óyenos.
Cristo, Benignamente óyenos.
(La respuesta es: Ten piedad de nosotros)
Dios Hijo, Redentor del mundo,
Santa Trinidad, un solo Dios,
Sagrada Hostia, ofrecida por la salvación de los pecadores,
Sagrada Hostia, anonadada en el altar para nosotros y por nosotros,
Sagrada Hostia, despreciada por los cristianos tibios,
Sagrada Hostia, signo de contradicción,
Sagrada Hostia, entregada a los satanistas* y herejes,
Sagrada Hostia, insultada por los blasfemos,
Sagrada Hostia, Pan de los ángeles, dado a los animales,
Sagrada Hostia, tirada en el lodo y pisoteada,
Sagrada Hostia, deshonrada por los sacerdotes infieles,
Sagrada Hostia, olvidada y abandonada en tus iglesias.
Sé misericordioso con nosotros, Perdónanos, oh Señor.
Sé misericordioso con nosotros,** Escúchanos, oh Señor**.
(La respuesta es: Te ofrecemos nuestra reparación)
Por el ultrajante desprecio de este maravilloso Sacramento,
Por tu extrema humillación en tu admirable Sacramento,
Por todas las comuniones indignas,
Por las irreverencias de los malos cristianos,
Por la profanación de tus santuarios,
Por los copones deshonrados y llevados a la fuerza,
Por las continuas blasfemias de los hombres impíos,
Por la impenitencia y traición de los herejes,
Por las conversaciones indignas en tus santos templos,
Por los profanadores de tus iglesias, a las que han profanado con sus sacrilegios,
(La respuesta es: Te suplicamos, óyenos.)
Para que plazca aumentar en todos los cristianos la reverencia debida a este adorable Misterio,
Para que te plazca manifestar el Sacramento de tu amor a los herejes,
Para que te plazca que los insultos de aquellos que te ultrajan sean más bien dirigidos hacia nosotros,
Para que te plazca misericordiosamente recibir esta nuestra humilde reparación,
Para que te plazca hacer nuestra adoración aceptable a Ti,
Hostia Pura, Escucha nuestra oración.
Hostia Santa, Escucha nuestra oración.
Hostia Inmaculada, Escucha nuestra oración.
Cordero de Dios, que quitas los pecados del mundo, Perdónanos, oh Señor.
Cordero de Dios, que quitas los pecados del mundo, Benignamente óyenos, oh Señor
Cordero de Dios, que quitas los pecados del mundo, Ten misericordia de nosotros.
Señor, ten piedad de nosotros. Cristo, ten piedad de nosotros.
V. Mira, oh Señor, nuestra aflicción,
R. Y da gloria a tu Santo Nombre.
Oremos
Señor Jesucristo,
que te dignas permanecer con nosotros en tu maravilloso Sacramento hasta el final del mundo,
para darle a tu Padre,
por la memoria de tu Pasión,
gloria eterna, y para darnos a nosotros el Pan de vida eterna:
concédenos la gracia de llorar,
con corazones llenos de dolor,
por las injurias que Tú has recibido en este Misterio adorable,
y por los muchos sacrilegios que cometen los impíos,
los herejes y los católicos.
Inflámanos con deseo ardiente de reparar todos estos insultos a los que,
en tu infinita misericordia,
has preferido exponerte antes que privarnos de tu Presencia en nuestros altares.
Tú, que con Dios Padre y el Espíritu Santo vives y reinas,
un solo Dios,
por los siglos de los siglos.
Amén
- Esta Letanía es antigua y nombraba cierto grupo, pero hoy en día es más frecuente encontrar misas negras y satanistas.