JoeyWarren said:
Sacrifice of the Mass
A protestant friend of mine has questioned the “Sacrifice” we offer at each mass. Jesus offered one sacrifice for the remission of all sins. No other sacrifcie is needed evermore.
I viewed the “Tract” on this subject and there is only one scriptural reference and that is Malichi 1:11. There is just quotes from the early church fathers but not much on the Bible, so how do I defend the Catholic position on this using only the Bible? I need some straight biblical references that are not vague with some good supporting arguements. And please don’t quote the early church fathers. With this person in question, he is only going to acknowledge the Bible.
TIA
Most believers of the Sola Scriptura theory, your friend for example, deeply distrust, hate and revile the Catholic Church and most don’t even see it as being Christian in character. Dealing with their attitudes is a very difficult thing to do, because for them, the Bible is the literal word of God, inerrant in every respect, unchanged throughout history.
The Catholic Church does not now and has never accepted the Bible as the SOLE source of revelation and inspiration and does not believe in the theory of Sola Scriptura. Any attempt to adequitely explain Catholic Doctrine and beliefs using the Bible only, will not be effective.
Sola Scriptura is a particularly Protestant innovation which was developed mainly to combat the authority of the Pope and certain doctinres of the Church that the early reformers, Luther, Huss Wycliff etc, didn’t particularly care for.
I have found the best way to talk to these people is to turn their own arguments against them. This requires that you do your homework. They generally have the following objections:
The Mass, Christ is re-constituted into a pre-crucifixicion physical body and re-sacrificed over and over, this proving that His sacrifice at Calvary was inadequite.
Marian devotion, Catholics must acknowledge Mary as the Co-Reedeemer and can ONLY get to Jesus through her. They particularly dislike devotions such as the Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel(called an abomination) and the Rosary. They say that in order for Mary to hear all of the .prayers offered to her she must be a God.
Purgatory, the Churches invention to make money off of indulgences. It also denies the sacrifice of Christ as being sufficient for mans salvation. To wit: if saved why do you need any punishment at all?. They generally quote Paul who apparently said at some point ," absent from the body, present with the Lord", to back that up… Indulgences are generally loosely lumped into this category.
Apostolic succession and Papal infallibility are attacked as totally without merit and biblical justification.
There is a Protestant apologist named Dave Hunt, who really gets into these things. He has had debates with various noted Catholic Clergy, theologians and laity over the years, usually coming out on the losing end. I don’t know if he is still active but his ministry is named the Berean Call. If you can read some of his stuff and listen to the debates, it may give you some ideas as to how to speak effectively with your friend.
Good Luck
