Sacrilege Against the Holy Eucharist!

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At Mass this moring, our pastor talked about the Year of the Eucharist that the Holy Father porclaimed and how he would be tightening up on the rubrics re:GRIM (this has been somewhat ongoing in our parish). Father talked about the importance of reverence to Our Lord in the Sacred Species and then he gave us a shocker: the last 2 weekends, when they’ve opened the poor boxes on Monday, they’ve found two of the Consecrated Hosts!!! Has anyone else in any other parishes had this sort of thing happen? All the EMHC’s have been told to observe people consuming the Host and if they don’t, to go after them and stop them. You know, we go up to rec. communion, we bow, we rec., we know what we believe about it being Jesus, but it doesn’t come home to you how MUCH you believe it until you hear stories like this. It’s heartbreaking and it’s evil that someone would abuse Him in this way. Please make an act of sorrow and reparation with me to Our Lord in the Sacred Host. One of my favorite movies scenes is from *Romero *when Archbishop Oscar Romero, of happy memory, steals himself against the threats of the soldiers who have taken over a church and goes in to retrieve the Blessed Sacrament. It was very powerful. Blessed be God in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar.
 
How sad! How can someone just throw away the Body of Christ as if he were throwing out the trash? 😦 I find this most disturbing.

What does the priest do with it when he finds the Sacred Host this way? What is the procedure for a situation like this?

I will definately pray with you. This deeply grieves me.

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Scout:
How sad! How can someone just throw away the Body of Christ as if he were throwing out the trash? 😦 I find this most disturbing.

What does the priest do with it when he finds the Sacred Host this way? What is the procedure for a situation like this?

I will definately pray with you. This deeply grieves me.

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Knowing Father, he consumed the Sacred Body. He’s a hardnosed, straight arrow. I kind of stopped listening for a while, I was taken aback.
 
i’d remind us, though, that while we DO need to protect the holy eucharist from abuse, we also must remember the 2ND greatest commandment - to love our neighbors as ourselves.

i say this, because i can see EME’s and priests and everyone else involved becoming so zealous in their defense of the eucharist that they start giving negative, unchristlike vibes to those who come to receive the eucharist.

and, since we ARE human, it would be easiest for us to profile those that we ‘watch closely’, and give an uncharitable impression to those who need the love of God the most.

so remember - love God, love each other. 🙂
 
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jeffreedy789:
i’d remind us, though, that while we DO need to protect the holy eucharist from abuse, we also must remember the 2ND greatest commandment - to love our neighbors as ourselves.

i say this, because i can see EME’s and priests and everyone else involved becoming so zealous in their defense of the eucharist that they start giving negative, unchristlike vibes to those who come to receive the eucharist.

and, since we ARE human, it would be easiest for us to profile those that we ‘watch closely’, and give an uncharitable impression to those who need the love of God the most.

so remember - love God, love each other. 🙂
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This is just one of the consequenses of Communion in the hand, and also having so so called “eucharistic ministers” IN THE MASS, when it’s the PRIEST’s job to distribute the Holy Communion. That’s why NOW, I MOSTLY attend the Latin Tridentine Mass of INDULT, and when I do attend a “novus Ordo” i do ONLY at a reverent parish.
 
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JKirkLVNV:
the last 2 weekends, when they’ve opened the poor boxes on Monday, they’ve found two of the Consecrated Hosts!!! Has anyone else in any other parishes had this sort of thing happen?
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I’m only in RCIA.

My guess is this: I notice that hosts (wafers) and some wine are at a table in the back before Mass starts. I suppose it would not be difficult for an unattended child to pick up a host (not yet consecrated), play with it and perhaps put it in the poor box.

So perhaps an additional precaution would be to make sure somebody is watching the hosts at the back of the church.
 
I imagine the person that did this had no idea what they were doing. I don’t think that someone who has never been to a mass before would go up for communion. They must have been with someone who is catholic and it is our responsibility to tell people what’s going on. I have a friend that is hindu and went to a mass for a funeral. I made a point to tell her she could not receive communion and why. Not to sidetrack but she thought it was the most beautiful thing ever…
 
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I imagine the person that did this had no idea what they were doing. I don’t think that someone who has never been to a mass before would go up for communion. They must have been with someone who is catholic and it is our responsibility to tell people what’s going on. I have a friend that is hindu and went to a mass for a funeral. I made a point to tell her she could not receive communion and why. Not to sidetrack but she thought it was the most beautiful thing ever…
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These are possible scenarios, I agree, but it happened two weekends in a row. As to the suggestion that the priest alone distribute communion, we have a very large parish, with 6-7 masses on Sunday, if I remember correctly, this doesn’t include the Saturday vigil. It would take an enormously long time for him to communicate everyone, though it could be done, I suppose.
 
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JKirkLVNV:
These are possible scenarios, I agree, but it happened two weekends in a row. As to the suggestion that the priest alone distribute communion, we have a very large parish, with 6-7 masses on Sunday, if I remember correctly, this doesn’t include the Saturday vigil. It would take an enormously long time for him to communicate everyone, though it could be done, I suppose.
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JKirkLVNV, If it happened two weekends in a row I think he has to mention this at every Mass until this abuse is stopped. The people of the parish, sadly, have to keep their eyes open also. Peace.
 
Two things come to mind for me.

What was found was a host, we can not know if they were Consecrated Hosts or now, so we need to err on the side of caution and treat them as such.

Who is watching the EMHC’s?
 
Are you certain the hosts were consecrated? At my parish, at the entrance to the church the wafers are set out next to a bowl, and people who intend to receive communion transfer one into the bowl, so that enough hosts are consecrated.
 
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Are you certain the hosts were consecrated? At my parish, at the entrance to the church the wafers are set out next to a bowl, and people who intend to receive communion transfer one into the bowl, so that enough hosts are consecrated.
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No, I’m not certain, that’s what Father said. I come into the church near the altar entrance, as I sing in the choir. I’ve never noticed if the unconsecrated hosts are left at the back or what. Obviously, no one wants to be hysterical about this, but our priest is not given to dramatics.
 
JKirk,

We had a similar situation at our parish. Someone found a host in the trash in the ladies room. Father took this very seriously. First he had the ladies room “staked out” during Mass. He also had one of his “helpers” empty the trash just before Communion and put a clean plastic bag in the receptacle in order to keep the Eucharist from being further violated. It turned out to be a teenage girl who was receiving communion and instead of going back to her seat heading for the ladies room and throwing the Eucharist away. It really shocked everyone. This was several years ago and they still tell the story. Very sad.
 
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kmktexas:
JKirk,

We had a similar situation at our parish. Someone found a host in the trash in the ladies room. Father took this very seriously. First he had the ladies room “staked out” during Mass. He also had one of his “helpers” empty the trash just before Communion and put a clean plastic bag in the receptacle in order to keep the Eucharist from being further violated. It turned out to be a teenage girl who was receiving communion and instead of going back to her seat heading for the ladies room and throwing the Eucharist away. It really shocked everyone. This was several years ago and they still tell the story. Very sad.
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Why in the name of His Mercy would she do that? Does anyone know?
 
Someone may know, but not me. We live in the middle of the Bible belt and these poor kids are targeted in early grade school by Evangelical Protestants who think that these young kids are easy pickins’. Every once in a while we have someone in Confirmation or Quincinera class that has picked up very anti-Catholic ideas at school. I am not sure if this was the reason in this case, but I can’t offer any other explanation.
 
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JKirkLVNV:
Why in the name of His Mercy would she do that? Does anyone know?
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I think it’s safe to say she didn’t realize what she held in her hands. Perhaps she was a non-Catholic and didn’t know what to do with it, or realized too late, and just wanted to get rid of it.
 
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kmktexas:
Someone may know, but not me. We live in the middle of the Bible belt and these poor kids are targeted in early grade school by Evangelical Protestants who think that these young kids are easy pickins’. Every once in a while we have someone in Confirmation or Quincinera class that has picked up very anti-Catholic ideas at school. I am not sure if this was the reason in this case, but I can’t offer any other explanation.
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I don’t know where you are in Texas, but I’m originally from there, and I agree (former Southern Baptist here) there’s a lot of anti-Catholicism. I’ve never heard tell of anyone encouraging a desecration of a sacrament or a church.
 
Dr. Colossus:
I think it’s safe to say she didn’t realize what she held in her hands. Perhaps she was a non-Catholic and didn’t know what to do with it, or realized too late, and just wanted to get rid of it.
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I’ll bet in that case, she was in a Catholic family and took communion out of peer pressure or because her parents expected her to take communion (strong extrinsic motivation). And as others have said, perhaps she didn’t personally think of herself as Roman Catholic and did not really want to take communion (no intrinsic motivation and possibly intrinsic rejection). How sad that she had to face such struggles concerning the Catholic Church and the Holy Eucharist. If it is something like that, then maybe we need to make sure parents don’t force their kids into taking communion. I suppose nobody should be “forced” into it – especially since taking communion in a state of mortal sin is also a sin. This is so sad.

Near the end of his life, Cardinal Terence Cook spoke of his persecutors to Father Benedict Groeschel “Benedict, they just didn’t understand. They didn’t mean it. They just didn’t understand.” I think those words are very true so much of the time. When others persecute, criticize or condemn Christ or Christian things – we need to remember that they just don’t understand. They don’t see the truth. They think the lies are the truth.

I’m in RCIA and I used to order Jack Chick tracts. So I know first-hand that this is true.

If a blind man stepped on your foot or spilled your coffee, would you be upset and want to punch him out? I hope not. Why? Because he can’t see. That is why what Cardinal Cook says is so true. They just don’t understand.
 
Dr. Colossus:
I think it’s safe to say she didn’t realize what she held in her hands. Perhaps she was a non-Catholic and didn’t know what to do with it, or realized too late, and just wanted to get rid of it.
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No she was a member of the parish attending Mass with her family. Her poor parents were very upset too. She was evidently rebelling in a most horrible way.
 
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