Yup, they are out there those who hate the Church, and worship the devil. We must be on guard, with our eyes open in EVERY MASS we attend, and if need be DEFENDING Christ vigilantly from profanation. One more reason why Communion should be ONLY given on the tongue!!!
With all due respect, you seem to be pretty hung up yourself against one thing: ROMAN CATHOLIC TRADITION. I wonder why Saint Thomas Aquinas would say in his Summa: “Nothing but the CONSECRATED hands of the Priest are to touch the consecrated species.” It seems you are overly confident in “eucharistic ministers” oh wait, as the Vatican recomends: they are NOT to be called that, they are to be called: “EXTRAORDINARY ministers of Communion.” I wonder why to in the 40 years there has been a decreasing belief in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, a decline in priestly ordinations, nuns who have kikked the habit, scandals of all sorts, dancing, clown, teen, jazz “masses” etc?? Are we a bit TOO optimistic that ALL is so fine and hay okay? Well, i should hope not, that would be a false perception. I wonder too why so many young adults, and others are going in masses to the Roman Tridentine latin mass on Sundays? I wonder why people are frustrated with so much liturgical abuse, and some are still not convinced that there is ever any profanation of the Eucharist, despite the fact that so many pastors are giving examples of eucharists thrown under the pews, of kids taking communion in the hand, then sharing it, of communions mixed with chewing gum stuck under the pews as is the case in my father’s parish? Well, of course, all is fine right? No problem the BEST way to recieve communion is on the hand. WRONG, the NORM IS ON THE TONGUE, the option (not in most parts of the Catholic world) is on the hand.
TOTALLY INVALID MASS! REPORT ALL THIS IN LETTER AND SIGNED TO THE BISHOP!!! Then make copies of his response, and this continues, send a copy of the bishops’s letter and the complaints to: The Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments in ROME!! And to cardinal Ratzinger’s office.
I am glad you admit this is “your taste” and i would add your PERSONAL opinion. Sorry to inform you that the Church has CLERICAL members, and is hiearchical, but wait, there’s more: The Church is NOT a democracy.
Leave out the more reverent and I’ll agree. Reverence is in the heart–I just don’t like the feeling of sticking out my tongue–and as an EMHC I much prefer to distribute on the hand–especially in the hospital. I don’t like my fingers licked, for obvious reasons plus many times a host will stick to my fingers when they are wet.
It seems to me that the two things would cause the highlighted comment above. One is that, perhaps, those of us who receive on the tongue are not clear on how wide to open the mouth and/or how to extend the tongue so that the EMHC can easily place the Host on it. The other has been made very clear to me since I returned to receiving on the tongue, instead of in the hand - most EMHCs have no idea how to place the Host on the tongue! They pick up the Host with index finger and thumb, which is fine, but then they do not quite know what to do! I have had the experience of EMHCs kind of tossing It into my mouth - a bit like someone gingerly feeding a dangerous dog!
This is not a matter of what YOU prefer. If a Communicant wants to receive on the TONGUE and you refuse, you will be violating Church law. You seem to FEEL(notice i don’t say THINK here in your case but rather FEEL) that it is YOUR right to be a EME, NOT. Know that EME are to be used in masses ONLY in severe cases where this is only one priest in the whole parish, he is elderly, etc. I am further perplexed of how easily you brush aside hundreds of years of Church teaching regarding the eucharist, just to fulfil some very personal dislike, or opinion which the Church herself does not agree with: cardinal ratzinger himself has said, as too Pope Paul VI that REVERENCE towards the eucharist must be guarded. You further seem to beleive that there is never any such thing as IRREVERENCE towards the eucharist, that that is just imposible. Have you read the LATEST!!! Document out of the Vatican (of course if you even care what the Pope or his representatives have to say on this) regardind The mass, liturgical abuses etc? It is By cardinal Arinze’ called: “Redemptionis Sacramentum.”
Wow, misericordie, calm down. Use some charity here. You might want to ask the person what they meant before jumping on them. When they said, leave out the “more reverant” they were referring to this quote.
In their opinion receving on the tonque isn’t any more reverent then receiving in the hand. It’s a valid opinion. Both are allowed by the church. Which is more reverent depends more on the person then the action. I have seen almost as many abuses from those that receive on the tonque as on the hand.
You’d better watch your blood pressure Misery
You brought up refusing—I certainly didn’t. I do what I am told—no matter what I feel.
Misery, You really need a quick course in reading comprehension.
sounds like something that could be documented in a letter to the Bishop. He would just think you are some nutcase and toss it.
You must come from a very awkward and disobedient to the VATICAN diocese. In any event, you continue to formulate your very subjective feelings regarding the eucharist and the Church, and continue to believe you a RIGHT to distribute Communion. The same priests whom you claim to be thankful to the "EXTRAordinary ministers of communion, are the same ones who continue to disregard all which comes from Rome. I do not cliam to be en expert, though i did study dogmatic theology at a very well known American JESUIT University. I encourage you to stop reading documents from the 1970’s, and get with the papacy of pope John paul II, and especially the LATEST document on the liturgy by Cardinal Arinze. Though I do not intend to get "rid of Extraordinary ministers of Communion, the Vatican DOES and has made very clear that they are to be used in the rarest of cases, of which above i previously gave examples of.
Speak for yourself, and maybe your own diocese.
I think that’s what I said when i exhort any all catholics to write to their local Bishop not only when they see any form of liturgical novelty and abuse, but especially if any priest: young, old, religious order, or diocesan refuses to give them Communion on the tongue, or on the tongue and while they KNEEL(rome says On these basis, it is NOT sufficient reason to deny Holy Communion.
You might want to read what you write. You might also want to stop deciding who is a real bishop and who is not, who is a real pastor and who is not, who is a real catholic and who is not, etc., etc., etc. There are people who decide this and I’m afraid it ain’t you.
No, that is NOT what you said.
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This is at best a slanderous, and quite possibly a sinful remark Get the log out of your own eye…