Saint Dominic says Our Lady will save the world?

[CutlerB]

I came across this quote from Saint Dominic, when I was looking for quotes on the Rosary:

“One day, through the Rosary and the Scapular, Our Lady will save the world.”

That sounds very disturbing to me. Does anyone know in what context he said that? I don’t think one can say this was due to Mary’s “Yes”. Because after all, Jesus brought about salvation, and I guess one an be saved without the Rosary.

However, I must say: I love the Rosary. I’m working on praying it regularly and improving meditation, but it makes me feel so much closer to Christ and His Mother. I wear it as a reminder to myself.

 

[R_C]

We read almost everywhere that this is part of the private revelation of the Blessed Virgin to St. Dominic in 1208 AD. But a few things do not seem right.

Somewhere else the following was pointed out: the Blessed Virgin did not give us the gift of the Scapular until July 16, 1251, 30 years after the death of St. Dominic…! Then why is this quote attributed to Him?

Here I found the following quote (from the book “The Sign of Her Heart” by John M. Haffert) that seems to describe the real origin of this phrase.

In the pages of an ancient history of the Carmelite Order (written in mediaeval Latin by a forgotten writer named Ventimiglia) the author of this book found the following account:

*Three famous men of God met on a street corner in Rome. They were Friar Dominic, busy gathering recruits to a new Religious Order of Preachers; Brother Francis, the friend of birds and beasts and especially dear to the poor; and Angelus, who had been invited to Rome from Mount Carmel, in Palestine, because of his fame as a preacher.

At their chance meeting, by the light of the Holy Spirit each of the three men recognized each other and, in the course of their conversation (as recorded by various followers who were present), they made prophecies to each other. Saint Angelus foretold the stigmata of Saint Francis, and Saint Dominic said:

“One day, Brother Angelus, to your Order of Carmel the Most Blessed Virgin Mary will give a devotion to be known as the Brown Scapular, and to my Order of Preachers she will give a devotion to be known as the Rosary. And one day, through the Rosary and the Scapular, she will save the world.”*

I am eager to find out if there is an official pronouncement on this, but I doubt it, given the obscure origin. We of course take this very prudently, definitely not “literally”, and not consider this phrase free of doctrinal error, at least until we are told so by someone with authority to draw such a conclusion.

 

[jwinch2]

A good bio of the life of St. Dominic which includes the narrative of his receiving the rosary from Our Lady can be found in the books written by Augusta Drane. amazon.com/Life-St-Dominic-Augusta-Drane/dp/0895553368/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348688680&sr=1-2&keywords=augusta+drane+st+dominic
amazon.com/History-St-Dominic-Founder-Preachers/dp/B0097BEODM/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348688680&sr=1-1&keywords=augusta+drane+st+dominic

Regarding the quote without looking at its historical accuracy, I would suggest that St. Dominic was stating that those who pray the rosary and wear the scapular faithfully will see improvements in their personal holiness which will make the world a better place.

Peace,

 

[Christine85]

To be honest I don’t see what’s wrong with the quote. It’s not stating that’s the only means of saving the world but possible some very powerful means of saving the world. If everyone prayed the Rosary the world would be a much more peaceful place. As for the Scapular things have been said about it how it helps us to show a sign of consecration to Jesus through Mary. A sign and reminder, it is also said by some to offer protection … Without getting too superstitious.

 

[mymamamary]

Why not Our Lady? we all know that whatever She does, its ultimatley for the Greater Glory of Our LORD? and in fact its Our LORD working through Her

The Rosary can save the world. Look up the incident in brazil, where the Senior ladies got into a line and started praying the Rosary or something like that…

 

[Richca]

I came across this quote from Saint Dominic, when I was looking for quotes on the Rosary:

“One day, through the Rosary and the Scapular, Our Lady will save the world.”

That sounds very disturbing to me. Does anyone know in what context he said that? I don’t think one can say this was due to Mary’s “Yes”. Because after all, Jesus brought about salvation, and I guess one an be saved without the Rosary.

However, I must say: I love the Rosary. I’m working on praying it regularly and improving meditation, but it makes me feel so much closer to Christ and His Mother. I wear it as a reminder to myself.

CutlerB: Since the rosary and the scapular are private devotions, strictly speaking, I think one can be saved without them. However, I wouldn’t be the one to preach against those devotions, on the contrary, I encourage them and practice them myself. Since Mary is the Mediatrix of all graces and our spiritual mother, devotion to her is essential for an intimate relationship with Christ. What’s interesting here is that the prophecy from St Dominic ties in very well with the apparitions of our Lady to the children of Fatima. In the apparition on July 13, 1917, our Lady said “Pray the Rosary every day in honor of Our Lady of the Rosary to obtain peace in the world . . . for she alone can save it.” In the apparition of the vision of hell, our Lady said “In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph.” I believe it was the last apparition where siste Lucia says that our Lady was holding the brown scapular in one of her hands. When sister Lucia was asked why she thought our Lady was holding the scapular, she said because our Lady wants us to wear it as a sign of consecration to her Immaculate Heart.

 

[Merlin89]

Looking at this statement of our Blessed mother Mary,how the holy Rosary will one day save the whole world.It is possible and true because seeing what happen in Italy,Fatima in 1917,when she visited those three children and told them to pray the holy Rosary and fast so that the people of Russia will not be destroy by God due to sins of the world.I think that story will give us some explanation to what she mean by that prophecy of st. Dominic.THANKS…Pax Christi.

 

[Lancer]

Not a problem for me for two reasons…

First…Saint Dominic clearly knows and lived his life demonstrating that all salvation is…has…will be accomplished by the Infinite merits of Our Lord Jesus Christ–His Incarnation – The Word made flesh, and His Life, Passion, and Death on the Cross, and His Resurrection and Ascension and seat in glory at the Father’s right hand…all will be accomplished** For the Father – Through Christ – In/By the power of the Holy Spirit**. Saint Dominic had this down cold…there was no confusion or heresy in his heart, mind or soul.

The answer is simply yet profoundly…that The God of All creation…has magnanimously and graciously elected to use the Blessed Virgin Mary not just to be the Mother of Our Savior but to also use her to carry out His Divine Economy of Salvation (DES) (which exists only because of and is based on Christ’s Salvific and Infinite Merits)…just like He uses each and everyone of us (if we cooperate with His grace and be obedient to His Commandments/Scripture/Church teachings and precepts) to do His will in our lives…on a less grand scale but clearly important in our own small ways to accomplish our part of His DES…and the Saints on a much larger and more important witness scale.

Second…here is what the Fatima Seer, Sister Lucia (2005+), said about Fatima’s message and the Rosary:

Sister Lucia:
The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Holy Rosary. She has given this efficacy to such an extent that there is no problem, no matter how difficult it is, whether temporal or above all, spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families, of the families of the world, or of the religious communities, or even of the life of peoples and nations that cannot be solved by the Rosary. There is no problem I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary.
fatima.ageofmary.com/rosary/

If you don’t buy this…respectfully, don’t use it…don’t say the Rosary and press on with your spiritual life…its not required to be a Catholic or for your personal salvation…but I would offer a suggestion…ask the Holy Spirit to guide you in your quest for Truth on this subject…and be forewarned…The Holy Spirit’s spouse…yes, A Virgin named Mary.

and…Welcome to the “Army”!

Pax Christi

 

[Dorothy]

The wearing of the scapular reminds one to pray, observe chastity according to our state of life, and receive the Sacraments frequently.

Meditating on the mysteries of the Rosary increases the life of grace in us, and draws us closer to our Lord Jesus Christ.

So, it sounds reasonable that the more people that use these sacramentals properly, the more others will be attracted to the truth of our Lord. That is what will help the world.

 

[jwinch2]

The wearing of the scapular reminds one to pray, observe chastity according to our state of life, and receive the Sacraments frequently.

Meditating on the mysteries of the Rosary increases the life of grace in us, and draws us closer to our Lord Jesus Christ.

So, it sounds reasonable that the more people that use these sacramentals properly, the more others will be attracted to the truth of our Lord. That is what will help the world.

Bingo, very well said. If we want to make the world holy, we must start with ourselves. Our Holy Father talks about this with the new evangelization and the year of faith.

 

[HansTrappist]

I came across this quote from Saint Dominic, when I was looking for quotes on the Rosary:

“One day, through the Rosary and the Scapular, Our Lady will save the world.”

That sounds very disturbing to me. Does anyone know in what context he said that? I don’t think one can say this was due to Mary’s “Yes”. Because after all, Jesus brought about salvation, and I guess one an be saved without the Rosary.

However, I must say: I love the Rosary. I’m working on praying it regularly and improving meditation, but it makes me feel so much closer to Christ and His Mother. I wear it as a reminder to myself.

In the approved apparitions of Our Lady of All Nations, the Blessed Virgin said as much and said that if the Holy Father would officially proclaim the Fifth Marian Dogman as well as pray the prayer given to Ida Peerdeman, then Our Lady would be permitted to intercede on the world’s behalf and a miraculous, worldwide outpouring of the Holy Spirit would follow.

Our Lady of Fatima promises that an “Era of Peace” will come.

The early Church Fathers and Scripture talk about such an era and period of “sabbath rest” with all creation “rejoicing”. Saint Justin Martyr speaks of such an era in his Dialogue with Trypho where he says,

For Isaiah spake thus concerning this space of a thousand years: ‘For there shall be the new heaven and the new earth, and the former shall not be remembered, or come into their heart; but they shall find joy and gladness in it, which things I create. For, Behold, I make Jerusalem a rejoicing, and My people a joy; and I shall rejoice over Jerusalem, and be glad over My I people. And the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, or the voice of crying. And there shall be no more there a person of immature years, or an old man who shall not fulfil his days. For the young man shall be an hundred years old; but the sinner who dies an hundred years old, he shall be accursed. And they shall build houses, and shall themselves inhabit them; and they shall plant vines, and shall themselves eat the produce of them, and drink the wine. They shall not build, and others inhabit; they shall not plant, and others eat. For according to the days of the tree of life shall be the days of my people; the works of their toil shall abound. Mine elect shall not toil fruitlessly, or beget children to be cursed; for they shall be a seed righteous and blessed by the Lord, and their offspring with them. And it shall come to pass, that before they call I will hear; while they are still speaking, I shall say, What is it? Then shall the wolves and the lambs feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox; but the serpent[shall eat] earth as bread. They shall not hurt or maltreat each other on the holy mountain, i saith the Lord.’ Now we have understood that the expression used among these words, ‘According to the days of the tree[of life] shall be the days of my people; the works of their toil shall abound’ obscurely predicts a thousand years. For as Adam was told that in the nay fie ate of the tree he would die, we know that he did not complete a thousand years. We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, ‘The day of the Lord is as a thousand years,’ is connected with this subject. And further, there was a certain man with us, whose name was John, one of the apostles of Christ, who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, that those who believed in our Christ would dwell a thousand years in Jerusalem; ***and that thereafter ***the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment of all men would likewise take place. Just as our Lord also said, ‘They shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be equal to the angels, the children of the God of the resurrection.’

Lactantius also speaks of this coming Era of Peace when he writes:

Therefore, since all the works of God were completed in six days, the world must continue in its present state through six ages, that is, six thousand years. For the great day of God is limited by a circle of a thousand years, as the prophet shows, who says “In Thy sight, O Lord, a thousand years are as one day.”

And as God laboured during those six days in creating such great works, so His religion and truth must labour during these six thousand years, while wickedness prevails and bears rule. And again, since God, having finished His works, rested the seventh day and blessed it, at the end of the six thousandth year all wickedness must be abolished from the earth, and righteousness reign for a thousand years; and there must be tranquillity and rest from the labours which the world now has long endured.