Saint Francis and the Liturgy

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I’ve been visiting TC Forum for a while now and it is still one of the most somber parts of my day. It saddens me to see how we treat each other, how we speak about our Church, the liturgy, the clergy and religious and how many people miss the point. Am I going mad or do I just live in a bubble?

My transition from Judaism to Catholicism was through the Franciscan tradition. In that tradition, I saw only kindness toward people, acceptance of people as they struggle along their journey to God. Even the great Franciscan, Leonard of Port Maurice, whose sermons were often Fire and Brimstone, was the most kind and patient of men with everyone. His preaching was more like a revivalist Pentecostal, but his interactions with people was that of a gentle soul. Both, his confreres and his audience remembered him for his gentleness in conversation and his politeness in dealing with others. He once said that he had never met any of the sinners of whom he preached in his sermons. In other words, he did not see sin in people, he saw people in sin. He spent his life doing penance for those who do not do penance, instead of bashing them. Reading his sermons one would think that he was hothead. Yet, reading his life, we find that the man was very different from the preacher.

Bonaventure, the great Franciscan General Minister, theologian, philosopher, cardinal, university professor, taught his sons to be kind to all people and to speak only of the good things in the Church, because as he said, “we already know too much about the bad things.” This was the man who said that he did not have time to be a cardinal, because he had to finish washing the dishes, then preparing the community meal, then he had to teach a class. He was the bishop who rarely spent time in his diocese, because his brothers ordered him (while he was the General Superior) to go off to write the definitive biography on St. Francis . . . so he did. He spend five-years writing the biography and 26-sermons on Francis, while he ran a diocese (God only knows on what time) and ran an order.

Finally, there is the Patriarch of the Franciscan family, our Holy Father who refused to see the sin in the Church, because “God is not blind,” he would say. The key to becoming like Christ was to embrace the suffering caused by sin. He had a wonderful sense of humor in the face of adversity. He was known as a charming young man whose whit, eccentricities, and simple call to love the Beloved has inspired millions of Christians and non-Christians for 800 years on every continent.

These men and others like them embody Catholic Tradition without criticism, never embracing or even speaking about conspiracies to ruin the Church, and never questioning the orthodoxy, fidelity or leadership of those in authority. They were not dumb. They did not live with their heads in the sand, nor did they pretend that there were no problems around them. They had a secret that if you paid close attention to their behavior you could learn. They mastered inner silence. They spent their lives working on developing recollection. The most important thing for them was to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit guiding them to the perfection of charity.

I’ve always been impressed by how they managed error. Francis was probably the best example of how to do this without losing one’s sense of peace or sense of humor. He simply shrugged his shoulders and answered the questions put before him. He did not make it a point to go out and find problems to solve. Instead, he always preached, but used words only when necessary, as Brother Illuminato would later write about him.
 
Conclusion:

Novelty was not a dirty word for the Franciscans. They did things that no one else had ever done. They placed the tabernacle behind the main altar of their chapels, because there was no other place to put it since the chapels were too small for a second space. They invented the living Christmas pageant or nativity. They believed in the Immaculate Conception of Mary, even though Aquinas said otherwise. They loved and respected Aquinas, but they never hung on every word that he said or wrote. Bonaventure mandated the First Saturday of the month in honor of Mary. They developed over 100 versions of the Stations of the Cross. They subdivided their order into over 100 branches with the same rule, but different religious habits, customs, ministries according to the needs of time and place. They founded the first order for secular men and women (clergy and married). They were the first religious order of brothers to include ordained brothers, when there were only orders with monks and lay brothers, orders with only priests, orders with priests and coadjutor brothers, but always a two-tier system. They created a religious family of equals, where a man could be a priest and the cook at the same time, while another was a theologian, the superior and not a priest. They asked the Holy Father to simplify the missal for them so that they did not have to own so many books. They banned Gregorian chant from the Divine Office so that everyone could pray the Office, even if they did not have a good singing voice. They eliminated the monastic choir and prayed the Divine Office while walking from one town to another, while other religious prayed in a choir or chapel. They celebrated mass on a board that they placed over a stone or a tree trunk, not always in a church, as early as the 13th century.

They were quite aware of priests living in sin with men or women, priests who abused children, men and women who cheated on their spouses, monarchs who exploited their people, fallen away Catholics and they quietly addressed these issues without letting anyone else know what they were doing. They made use of the media (letters, magazines, radio and later TV) to bring the Gospel to people. Yet, they shy away from public condemnation of anyone, especially the hierarchy. Their goal is to preach the Gospel, not to bring others down.

Their greatest priority is to live as brothers and sisters with each other, and then they worry about the rest of the world. To live the apostolic life is to live with each other as the Apostles did. They see the apostolic not about activity, but about living the way that Christ and the Apostles lived in intimate union with each other. Whatever good flows out of this closely-knit relationship with each other is the fruit of their love for Christ and each other. They go from the inside out, not from the outside in. They saw Catholic tradition as larger than life. To quote St. Clare, “adapt to the circumstance, culture and whatever is practical in living the spiritual life.” If it does not help the spiritual life, put it aside. If it helps, use it.

When Catholic tradition is viewed this way, it is very rich. It leads to inner peace. It draws many men and women to God with few conflicts. It preaches the Gospel to non-Christians without having to say a word to them. Those who see them are awe-struck by the fact that their apparent chaotic way of doing things actually brings great peace and joy and produces great acts of charity and heroic virtue. Maybe Francis and his spiritual family can enlighten how we go about finding and preserving Catholic tradition. Maybe Traditional Catholicism is about personal conversion, then the rest follows without all of the controversy and arguing.

As I said, maybe I live in a bubble. But I don’t know good Franciscans, friars, nuns, sisters or secular who are engaged in debates, arguments or defense of this and condemnation of that. I know millions of them who are struggling to be saints, pure and simple. The secret is an intense life of prayer and obedience to Francis’ way of living the Gospel.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
It’s hard for some of us to balance the approach of Charity (which is NOT laxidasical empowerment of sinful actions by being “nice”) with zeal for orthodoxy.🤷

BUt I do know and agree that the greatest and truest orthodoxy is not everything you learn in theology manuals: It is much more: It is what St. Augustine taught" THeology is to be AFFECTIVE. The insights we discover about GOd should move us to want to know more about him so we can love him. And in loving him, we love the truth. And we are empoered by his grace to love our neighbor.

But it is no love to let error go unchecked. But it is also not MY job to assume any kind of “Grand inquisitor” status.😊

Some of us fear milk toast faith and opt for zeal at the expense of Charity. But admittedly, that is a weak ORthodoxy, if in our zeal we do not seek the good of those whom we try to correct.:o

THAT is true charity.
 
When I look at my religious family, I actually see being nice as part of charity. It’s the external manisfestation of an internal wisdom. It’s interesting, because the Franciscan family has the largest number of saints, blesseds and venerables. They were very nice people.

You have Clare, Bonaventure, Lawrence of Brindisi, Leonard of Port Maurice, Conrad, Fidelis, Thomas More, Joan of Arc, John XXIII, Leo XII, Pius X, Pius XII, Pio, Agnes, Anthony, Maximilian Kolbe, Elizabeth of Hungary, Louis King of France and the list goes on for more than 1,000 of canonized and beatified Franciscans from all of our orders. The stories of their kindness is impressive.

They were all very human. Each had his or her personality. Some were even grumpy, at times. Padre Pio was known to go up and down. One moment he was playing pranks on the novices and the next he was blowing up over something or pouting over another thing.

We have to understand one thing here. They were all trying to mimic Francis. He was a rather interesting person. He and Benedict were the type of founders who continued to govern their family from the tomb. They commanded obedience to their way of seeing things and doing things long after their death. They set up a system of succession that exists in a small number of religious families. In most religious families when the founder died, he ceased to be the superior. But there are a few, where this is not the case. The founder continues to be the Patriarch or Matriarch, such as Mother Teresa.

Why? Because these people were genuinely loveable. Benedict, Francis, Teresa of Avila, and Teresa of Calcutta are examples of founders that were truly loveable people. In other words, they were nice. You could not help but want to please them or want to be like them. They were founders, parents and teachers. They had some controls, but their greatest power was their personalities. There is more written about their personality than about their theology. Yet, we know that they were great theological minds.

I would not ignore being nice. Being nice goes a long way in getting people to pay attention and to remember you.

One of the most influential Franciscans of the 20th century is Maximilian Kolbe. Max, along with being a true Marian theologian was also an avid student of Francis. Last year I met his niece. She’s an older person now. She remembers her uncle Raymond (Max’s birth name) as one of the funiest and nicest uncles. Raymond, as she calls him, had a way of correcting error with humor. He would laugh as the lack of logic behind error. He had a keen abilityt to look at error, spot it’s lack of logic and then point it out in a very humorous way that did not upset others. It made them laugh or at the very least, it made them squirm. But every piece of writing that we have about him says that no one every became angry with him for very long. He was too nice. The same is said about Pio.

Pio had a habit of exploding when he ran into error or nonsense, as he called it. Then he would apologize for his explosion. His humility captivated the person in error. He did not apologize for being right. He apologized for being wrong in the way that he dealt with error. It is said that he looked to Francis and would become upset with himself because he could not be as patient as Francis, so he tried harder.

Francis, tried as hard as he could never to offend even the heretic or the non-believing Sultan. He was so polite and kind that the Sultan grew very fond of him. He did not convert, but he and Francis made an alliance. Francis’ brothers would be allowed safe passage through Egypt and Jordan to the Holy Land. Francis promised that his brothers would never preach to the Muslims. That’s how the Custory of the Holy Land came into existence and still operates to this day. The friars are loved by Jews, Muslims and Christians, because they are very kind to the people there and have done a great deal for them. Their “niceness” has paid off. In a world where converting out of Islam can be punished by death, people have converted to Catholicism. Granted, before the creation of the State of Israel they had to leave Palestine to avoid execution or whatever they did before 1948. The point is that these folks were moved by what we would call niceness.

All of this goes back to Francis vision of the Gospel. The Gospel, to him, was not about conflict. The world had enough conflict. The Gospel was about a way of life that he and his sons and daughters were to live: prayer, fraternity, fidelity to the Church, obedience to authority, patience, silence, mercy, penance for those who do not do penance, and absolute detachment from self. My thoughts, my wishes, my ideas, my things, my family, my friends, my goals, and my whatever are insignificant. Only one thing is important, to embrace sin as Christ embraces it on the cross. Poverty is an end in itself. But poverty is bigger than material poverty. The only thing that I own is my sins.

When you embrace that kind of spirit, Catholic Tradition takes on a whole different meaning. It’s no longer about you or about what you think is right. It’s all about being like Him on the cross, not Christ in the market place, preaching the Beatitudes, in the manger, doing miracles, but Christ on the cross, totally dependent on the Father and totally in love with the world. That’s pretty nice. It’s also quite a challenge to reach that point.

All of these other preocupations that we have become subordinate to the one goal in life, to become exactly like Christ crucified in body, mind and spirit. This is the goal of tradition. Francis and his family understood this. I am not there yet. As I grow in my knowledge of my Franciscan heritage I also grow in my knowledge of Catholic tradition in its broadest sense and consequences.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Can I ask whether Padre Pio or Bonaventure ever made attempts to control their ‘outbursts’? It is difficult to see how being ‘nice’ is compatible with the blow ups. This is something that I also struggle with. Very infrequent public distress, but I am always very contrite and embarassed afterwards.

Thank for your posts. They give me the courage to be human as I continue on this path!
 
Bro. JR,

As I prepare to go to Mass, you have giving me something wonderful to ponder and consider in my own personal walk with Christ.

I thank you.
God Bless.
 
Brother JR: i am very humbled and almost at tears after reading your posts. I too, some day really wish to learn, understand and even live in the franciscan spirit and way of life to understand Traditional Catholicism.

Some would ask me, Tommy (my name): what is your greatest wish in life. It is as stated above. May God have mercy on me and maybe it will be so. What a blessing that would have been.

Having that said: i wish you all a peaceful and nice sunday. Bless you. Peace and all well.
🙂
 
Traditionalist Catholics would like the older versions of our rites, including the disciplines attached to them. They do not like the novelties which are being added, year by year, to the newer ones.

I’ve stopped going to Mass decades ago. Now, when I go to Mass, I see more and more sentimentality and the laity encroaching of the rite. You don’t need to be a prophet to see where this will lead, unchecked. You can already see it in more liberal countries and dioceses.

It’s decadence.

A relative of mine died recently. To comfort me, more than one Catholic said “He’s in Heaven, now”. I finally said to one of them “How do you know?”.

Mass, itself, is catechesis. When you attend an old rite Mass, you are conscious of Who the focus is. It’s not the priest or the laity. Do it by the book, don’t water it down and sugar it up. People’s souls are in play here.

Thanks to the novelties and the change in emphasis, you have Roman Catholics who are pretty sure they’re going to Heaven.

The Franciscans are bound to poverty, mendicancy and missionary work, isn’t that so? They’re not primarily concerned with liturgy and theology. Using the asceticism of St. Francis to excuse minimalism and novelty in the Roman rite, is not right. We’re not all ascetics.

God deserves glorious worship from people who have the means to give it.
 
Ah-hah, another vicious Franciscan slander of the greatest saint in history, Thomas Aquinas! 😛 Br., you really ought to read the Summa, book III, chapter 27 before you start spreading that evil rumour about his opinion on the Immaculate! 😉

Seriously, this thread is very good. Whether E.F. or O.F., ‘tradition’ has always been communicated by Franciscan reverence. Despite their tendency (at least here) to appeal what is simple rather than what is majestic, they tend to make the simple majestic, but in a simple way! 😃 The way you describe the focus on your brotherhood is very interesting, as it gives me the impression that priests are prevented from being focused upon not out of any anti-clerical ideal, but out of a love for humility, and keeping them humble up at the altar. This is very good: didactic as well as worshipful of God!

Conservative people like myself can very easily fall into mere ‘reaction’. We need to know what it means to follow “conservative innovation” or “traditional novelty”. The Lord’s Prayer was not even in its current position in the 1962 Mass before Gregory the Great, who moved it there 500 years after the Mass was invented. Let us never assume that the Mass has been exactly 100% the same forever, and apply this erroneous unchanging notion to it. Reverence need not be simple reaction… 🙂 This seems to be what St. Francis says.
 
A relative of mine died recently. To comfort me, more than one Catholic said “He’s in Heaven, now”. I finally said to one of them “How do you know?”.

God deserves glorious worship from people who have the means to give it.
How do you have the means to give glorious worship if you don’t know you will be united eternally with the One you call Father?

We have not seen Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit, heaven or hell; but by faith we believe and Jesus said “Blessed are those who have not seen yet believe.” Since I have not gone to heaven yet; I must hope but Christian hope does not disappoint because of the promises of Christ.

My worship comes from knowing that I don’t deserve it, I have not earned it, I cannot make it happen; that is my liturgy and whatever liturgy is deemed appropriate by the Church that Jesus left us, I will follow.

My works flow from my inner being because of my faith. That is what I get out of JReducation’s wonderful teaching on the Franciscan way. If I have to work to get my Father’s attention, I will be frustrated, jealous of others, and working for a place. It reminds me of Cain and Able. If I have works because I believe the promises of my Father as taught by my Church’s Oral and Written Tradition then my destination is known as sure as anything can be truly known.
 
The Franciscans are bound to poverty, mendicancy and missionary work, isn’t that so? They’re not primarily concerned with liturgy and theology. Using the asceticism of St. Francis to excuse minimalism and novelty in the Roman rite, is not right. We’re not all ascetics.

God deserves glorious worship from people who have the means to give it.
The Franciscans are bound to poverty, love for all living thing, kindness, the love for St Francis and the liturgy.

God deserves glorious worship, that means to obey the church teachings, show compassion, devotion and respect for all living things, even when you disagree, fear and being in starvation, sick or near death. That is what our way of life is all about.
 
How do you have the means to give glorious worship if you don’t know you will be united eternally with the One you call Father?

We have not seen Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit, heaven or hell; but by faith we believe and Jesus said “Blessed are those who have not seen yet believe.” Since I have not gone to heaven yet; I must hope but Christian hope does not disappoint because of the promises of Christ.

My worship comes from knowing that I don’t deserve it, I have not earned it, I cannot make it happen; that is my liturgy and whatever liturgy is deemed appropriate by the Church that Jesus left us, I will follow.

My works flow from my inner being because of my faith. That is what I get out of JReducation’s wonderful teaching on the Franciscan way. If I have to work to get my Father’s attention, I will be frustrated, jealous of others, and working for a place. It reminds me of Cain and Able. If I have works because I believe the promises of my Father as taught by my Church’s Oral and Written Tradition then my destination is known as sure as anything can be truly known.
I don’t know what you’re saying here. It has nothing to do with my point: the outer, glorious worship, that the Roman Church used to have, is now a rarity. See if you can find a sung, Latin Eastern Triduum locally.

What you feel, the rest of us can’t see. It’s a public rite.

Minimalism in a Mass is odd; ‘let’s take things out, for the greater glory of God’? Especially in a diocesan Church, where the laity have money.
 
The Franciscans are bound to poverty, love for all living thing, kindness, the love for St Francis and the liturgy.

God deserves glorious worship, that means to obey the church teachings, show compassion, devotion and respect for all living things, even when you disagree, fear and being in starvation, sick or near death. That is what our way of life is all about.
Again, this has nothing to do with my point. It’s just undirected sentiment. “God Is Love, let’s strip out our worship?” :confused:
 
The Franciscans are bound to poverty, mendicancy and missionary work, isn’t that so? They’re not primarily concerned with liturgy and theology. Using the asceticism of St. Francis to excuse minimalism and novelty in the Roman rite, is not right. We’re not all ascetics.
Actually, no. Franciscans mysticism focuses on liturgy, contemplative prayer, penance, theological education, fraternity, obedience and detachment from self and things. Don’t forget, it was the Franciscans and Dominicans who founded the great universities of Padua, Parish, Oxford, Lisbon, Salamanca and others. Franciscans have included some of the greatest teachers of theology: Anthony, Bonaventure, Lawrence of Brindisi, Duns Scotus, Loenard of Port Maurice and others.

Franciscans configured the old form of the Latin mass. Check it out. St. Francis saved the old form of the Latin mass. Liturgical renewal has been a part of the Franciscan tradition since our foundation in 1209. We renewed the Divine Office as wel as the older form of the mass.

No one is excusing minimalism. Would you call Francis, Teresa of Avila or Teresa of Calcutta minimalists because they did not involve themselves in contraversies? That’s very offensive to them.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
A relative of mine died recently. To comfort me, more than one Catholic said “He’s in Heaven, now”. I finally said to one of them “How do you know?”.
Whoa! You know when you’re studying a book and you think you understand a section and then you come to realize you missed one VERY important chapter which comes right before that section?

That’s how I feel right now.

So, Catholics have no assurance of heaven?

Catholics live in fear their whole lives?

Should I start a new topic?
 
Ah-hah, another vicious Franciscan slander of the greatest saint in history, Thomas Aquinas! 😛 Br., you really ought to read the Summa, book III, chapter 27 before you start spreading that evil rumour about his opinion on the Immaculate! 😉

Seriously, this thread is very good. Whether E.F. or O.F., ‘tradition’ has always been communicated by Franciscan reverence. Despite their tendency (at least here) to appeal what is simple rather than what is majestic, they tend to make the simple majestic, but in a simple way! 😃 The way you describe the focus on your brotherhood is very interesting, as it gives me the impression that priests are prevented from being focused upon not out of any anti-clerical ideal, but out of a love for humility, and keeping them humble up at the altar. This is very good: didactic as well as worshipful of God!

Conservative people like myself can very easily fall into mere ‘reaction’. We need to know what it means to follow “conservative innovation” or “traditional novelty”. The Lord’s Prayer was not even in its current position in the 1962 Mass before Gregory the Great, who moved it there 500 years after the Mass was invented. Let us never assume that the Mass has been exactly 100% the same forever, and apply this erroneous unchanging notion to it. Reverence need not be simple reaction… 🙂 This seems to be what St. Francis says.
First of all, where is the slander? It is common knowledge that Aquinas believed that Mary was cleansed from original sin in the womb. It was Duns Scotus and Lawrence of Port Maurice who promoted the Immaculate Conception. This is not an attack on St. Thomas. In fact, the Franciscans have had a very good relationship with St. Thomas.

Second, as to the greatest saint in history . . . that’s a matter of personal opinion. Thomas is certainly the greatest theological mind in Catholic history. As far as greatest saint, that’s neither here nor there. Saints are not in competion with each other. However, it is Francis whom the Church has called, “The Mirror of Perfection, The Seraphic Father, The Perfect Christian”. This does not make him the better of the two saints: Francis and Thomas. It simply means that the Church acknowledges that of all the saints so far, Francis more closely resembles Christ. Mother Teresa may be the second in that group. That does not mean that one saint is greater or lesser than another. It means that some are more visibly conformed to Christ than others. What makes Thomas a great man is his great humility.

There is a wonderful story of Thomas visiting his good friend Bonaventure. Bonnie was in rapture while meditating on St. Francis. After trying to get Bonnies attention for a few minutes, the friar told Thomas that he was having trouble getting Bonnies attention. Aquinas simply said, “Let the saint talk to his saint.” He smiled and left.

I don’t think that they in competition.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
There is a wonderful story of Thomas visiting his good friend Bonaventure. Bonnie was in rapture while meditating on St. Francis. After trying to get Bonnies attention for a few minutes, the friar told Thomas that he was having trouble getting Bonnies attention. Aquinas simply said, “Let the saint talk to his saint.” He smiled and left.

I don’t think that they in competition.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
That’s the central lesson and I thank you, Brother JR.

No competition between them - and a great lesson for
all who insist: “liturgy must conform to MY way … .”

We are serving Almighty God — true for all of us.
 
Someone wrote in a previous post (that suddenly disappeared) “we’re not all ascetics”. It left me wondering. Is not the goal of our faith to live the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ? Is the Gospel not the ground upon which Catholic Tradition is rooted? If we answer these questions in the affirmative, then we are all called to be ascetics. Francis understood that to live the Gospel is a response to be conformed to Christ in all things, even the cross. He understood Paul’s simple message to Timothy. God calls us to live each day in darkness, not knowing how He is leading us, but in the full knowledge that He calls us to himself. This requires great courage and sacrifice. It’s asceticism at its finest. No matter how beautiful our external rubrics, if our internal disposition is not that of Christ on the cross, then we will fall short of perfect worship and we are simply observers of the law.

Our quest for tradition has a natural consequence. Francis understood that the mass revisits the Incarnation of the Word and the Sacrifice of Calvary to draw us in as active participants, not passive observers. One walks away from every mass with a renewed spirit, filled with grace and the desire to embrace Christ Crucified so that we may be transformed into him. Such transformation hurts. It’s the natural consequence of love.

Liturgical tradition does not stop at beautiful rituals. This was the mystery of the Transfiguration, which Francis understood so well that he was physically transfigured through the stigmata. Whether he attended mass in a beautiful cathedral or under a tree, he paid attention to one thing and one thing only. He paid attention to the cross and he desired to be united to Christ on the cross. His prayer at every mass was, “That I may love you as much as you love me and that I may experience in my body the love that you poured out on the cross.” This intense yearning to become one with Christ Crucified moved him to reverence at mass and reverence in his dealings with all people, especially the hierarchy.

Francis realized that despite humanity’s weaknesses, Christ never abandoned man. On the contrary, he embraces man’s darkest hour by facing death. Francis inspired and taught his brothers and sisters to embrace human darkness, not run away from it. The Tradition of the Mass is about the Darkest Night of the Soul where man comes face to face with his own sinfulness, fully confident that the Father will transform our existence from death to life. Therefore, Francis was not afraid of the world around him, the sin in the Church, or the coldness of the human heart. The Triumph of the Cross, celebrated at every mass, was his source of hope, peace and joy.

He did not minimize or ignore sin. Instead, he viewed things in perspective. Like Paul, he conformed himself to the cross and like John, he abided in His love. Tradition, be it in liturgy or in daily life, is about achieving a balanced view of the Truth. What is the truth? “Where sin abounds, grace has far surpassed it.” That’s why Christ said to the Apostles, “Do not be afraid.” Francis faced the world without fear. When we see Tradition through eyes such as these, we can live in peace and transform the world beginning with our souls.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
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