2 Peter Chapter 1
I accept that it means there would be divisions. Though let’s not be misleading to imply it was only the mean Jews and Muslims hurting poor Christians, the Church and Christians in general have carried around some big swords of their own too, in rebellion of what Jesus said to put away your sword.
It won’t be the last judgment when Jesus returns, that happens a thousand years later when people are judged for their sins.
What part of what I say do you disagree with?Did you take your interpretation from a book by a Muslim, FoA? (since Planten, Hamba2han and you said exactly the same thing about those verses…) We may wonder if you really read the whole New Testament and the whole Bible (at least, most of it)?
That says nothing, give an alternate point by point or something. Otherwise it’s just yapping.
Dear Lapell, I cannot read all the bible NT. I read the four gospels which are really one gospel only. I do not read paul. He is not in our books and also not any where in the four gospels. The four gospels are the real ones by the real and active disciples of JESUS.Did you take your interpretation from a book by a Muslim, FoA? (since Planten, Hamba2han and you said exactly the same thing about those verses…) We may wonder if you really read the whole New Testament and the whole Bible (at least, most of it)?
Your interpretation depends on how you want the story to be told but the story about the sword was not told on how it is going to be used. It was a matter of mentioning but nothing was done wrong and the intention for the sword was obviously not for violence. You have to read about how Jesus would tell later how the sword could cause harm when Peter used it to cut the Roman soldier’s ear. “If you live by the sword you will die by the sword”. Rebuking them to let them know how dangerous the sword is. So, your perception that the sword is for violence is wrong because no indication that Jesus will use it for that purpose. The rest of the story is only to show how He would condemn the sword.
Malachi3.24:’Lo, I will send you a prophet,
If God authored the Bible and the Qur’an, then why do they contradict each other? In fact why does the Qur’an contradict itself?
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What do you know about the Bible? Nothing! You can 't even tell the difference between Jesus and Muhammad. You see everything as violence and killing. That is what Islam is all about! Killing and subjugating others to its tyrannical creed because that’s what Muhammad did.
My understanding is that, yes when Jesus returns it will be for the Last Judgment! At the end of times. The details about how it will happen I leave that to God. In the Revelation what you have is a foretaste of the things to come.
“He who knows still doesn’t know enough.” So, you don’t even know the Acts of the Apostles, which is the Part II of the Gospel according to Luke? There Paul is very present. That’s what it is not to know the whole of the New Testament. Saint Jerome didn’t say: “To ignore the Gospels is to ignore Christ”, but “To ignore the Scriptures is to ignore Christ”! Not having the Acts of the Apostles you miss a very important part of God’s revelation. The Gospel itself is about Jesus the Messiah, his message, salvation, how to become true disciples in words and in deeds out of faith and the love of God in action. The Acts of the Apostles show in short how the Church began and how the Apostles and the disciples spread the Gospel. Among the things it tells us about is the conversion of Saul of Tarse from a fervent persecutor of the Church to one of the risen Jesus’ disciples and apostles. You don’t know what you are missing. A whole meal is offered to you, but you say “I’ll be content with the crumbs” even though the invitation is from God Himself. That is sad, very sad!
600 years or 1400 years. Jesus came 1400 years after Moses. Why did JESUS come? What was the need?? There had been many other prophets before and after Moses a.s. Why they came? What was the purpose? Jesus was just one of them, being the last prophet under the command of Moses a.s. and under the law of Moses a.s. He was subservient prophet under the law of Moses.
Well, the putting together of THOSE quotes from the Gospels, separate from their context (what came before and after, and the whole of the Gospel). You put the same verses together, Planten, Hamba2han and you. All about swords, so there must be some earthly war involved, some jihad!.. If you knew the whole of the New Testament and read it in the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God the Father and the Son, believe me, you would be more careful about how to interpret it, for false interpretations can happen and do happen!
You don’t have them just because you haven’t bought one or because it’s forbidden?
Muhammad did proclaim himself a god when he invented his alter ego “Allah”. Muhammad is Allah. Think of all the self serving “revelations” that “Allah” granted him.
Muhammad was one of the false prophets that Jesus warned us about.Wrong! Christians have not made Jesus into a god! Jesus is God and so he has revealed to us. Why another prophet when the Son of God himself has come to us??
Moot point, because we do not believe in Muhammad, Islam or Muhammad’s book the Quran!