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curtishouse30
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Got to be better than Mormons proxy-baptizing Adolf Hitler but not much. Interesting thread and I hope you get some responses.
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Nine_Two
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I’m not sure what there is to explain.
Anyone is free to petition for anyone to be made a saint, it doesn’t mean a whole lot.
You’ll notice it is the Communist Party (not a particularly popular group with the Church, you know, the bulk of the century of persecuting us and all that) who is asking that he be made a saint.
It would be like if Jack Chick petitioned the Pope to make Hitler a saint. It just isn’t going to happen.
Anyone is free to petition for anyone to be made a saint, it doesn’t mean a whole lot.
You’ll notice it is the Communist Party (not a particularly popular group with the Church, you know, the bulk of the century of persecuting us and all that) who is asking that he be made a saint.
It would be like if Jack Chick petitioned the Pope to make Hitler a saint. It just isn’t going to happen.
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Looking at the Youtube video I have a hard time believing it to be true.
The mention of a “St. Olga”'s church is unqualified, the"icons" for the most part don’t look like icons, and the ones that do don’t zoom out far enough to show an actual icon, meaning there is no evidence they aren’t just computer images (I’d say photoshopped, but even more likely complete originals).
The first picture makes absolutely no sense since the writting on it is Greek, not Russian, and as big a leap it is that a Russian Church would display an icon with Stalin, it makes even less sense that it would display a Greek icon (in an untraditional style) containing Stalin.
In other words, based on the video alone I doubt such “icons” exist, and would want to see something a bit more substantial than a nostalgic video.
The mention of a “St. Olga”'s church is unqualified, the"icons" for the most part don’t look like icons, and the ones that do don’t zoom out far enough to show an actual icon, meaning there is no evidence they aren’t just computer images (I’d say photoshopped, but even more likely complete originals).
The first picture makes absolutely no sense since the writting on it is Greek, not Russian, and as big a leap it is that a Russian Church would display an icon with Stalin, it makes even less sense that it would display a Greek icon (in an untraditional style) containing Stalin.
In other words, based on the video alone I doubt such “icons” exist, and would want to see something a bit more substantial than a nostalgic video.
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Nine_Two
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Basically what my third post says, and already dealt with in my first.
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Church_Militant
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N_T’s right. Anyone could ask for someone to be made a saint but I wouldn’t hold my breath on Stalin, nor pay any attention to some of the crazies on YouTube.
If you want a worthwhile video, try this one.Marytown Eucharistic Adoration Chapel
If you want a worthwhile video, try this one.Marytown Eucharistic Adoration Chapel
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Eloi
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The Orthodox Church would never canonize Stalin. That would be similar to the Libyans deciding to honor Gaddafi in a few years.
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jam070406
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Trust me, it happens. Except the actions are usually projected onto the Pope.
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bigquests
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Fuggetaboutit.
Stalin tore down the Cathedral of Christ the Redeemer in MOscow (since rebuilt)–and many many other churches throughout the USSR.
The video does show some things of interest tho’–posters of Stalin in the socialist ‘realism’ style and a famous actual photo near the end of WWII depicting the Soviet army planting the flag overlooking devastated Berlin at the end of the war, a famous photo.
Stalin is probably responsible for as many deaths as Hitler (as is Mao)–not only thru his massive purges, including his engineering the starvation deaths of millions in the Ukraine, but also in that he signed a pact with HItler, purged his own army, killing thousands of its officers, so that the army was weak and disorganized when HItler attacked, thereby killing millions of Russian soldiers.
Stalin is still thought well of by elderly people in his native Georgia, however. There may still be a few statues of him there.
Stalin tore down the Cathedral of Christ the Redeemer in MOscow (since rebuilt)–and many many other churches throughout the USSR.
The video does show some things of interest tho’–posters of Stalin in the socialist ‘realism’ style and a famous actual photo near the end of WWII depicting the Soviet army planting the flag overlooking devastated Berlin at the end of the war, a famous photo.
Stalin is probably responsible for as many deaths as Hitler (as is Mao)–not only thru his massive purges, including his engineering the starvation deaths of millions in the Ukraine, but also in that he signed a pact with HItler, purged his own army, killing thousands of its officers, so that the army was weak and disorganized when HItler attacked, thereby killing millions of Russian soldiers.
Stalin is still thought well of by elderly people in his native Georgia, however. There may still be a few statues of him there.
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Nine_Two
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It happens, but it shouldn’t.
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Church_Militant
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It happens, but it shouldn’t.
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FSSPOblate
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Hey, this is the Church I grew up going to! Beautiful house of God. It also gave me a childhood(and still persistent) devotion to St. Kolbe.
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