Saints' Organs as Relics

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Apologizing in advance, because this is a little silly, but it’s stuck in my head. If a person became an organ donor and was then canonized, would the recipients be walking reliquaries?

Yeah, I know. I’m odd. 😊
 
Apologizing in advance, because this is a little silly, but it’s stuck in my head. If a person became an organ donor and was then canonized, would the recipients be walking reliquaries?

Yeah, I know. I’m odd. 😊
It’s never happened, because canonization normally takes generations.

I don’t know if the Church has a rubric for this instance.

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It may come up sometime in the future. After all, donating an organ is an act of charity.
 
Apologizing in advance, because this is a little silly, but it’s stuck in my head. If a person became an organ donor and was then canonized, would the recipients be walking reliquaries?

Yeah, I know. I’m odd. 😊
Becoming a saint doesn’t automatically mean your body is cut up for relics.
And there other kinds of relics anyway.
 
Apologizing in advance, because this is a little silly, but it’s stuck in my head. If a person became an organ donor and was then canonized, would the recipients be walking reliquaries?

Yeah, I know. I’m odd. 😊
Sounds like the premise of a cool novel or short story.🙂
 
Apologizing in advance, because this is a little silly, but it’s stuck in my head. If a person became an organ donor and was then canonized, would the recipients be walking reliquaries?

Yeah, I know. I’m odd. 😊
nodding head and chuckles I like the way you think! :hmmm::p:D

I would be more to think that the recipients might become more saint like. And as someone pointed out, the recipients might be gone themselves by the time the saint was canonized. Then again, the rate they’ve been going lately, maybe its possible.

Fascinating question!!!
 
nodding head and chuckles I like the way you think! :hmmm::p:D

I would be more to think that the recipients might become more saint like. And as someone pointed out, the recipients might be gone themselves by the time the saint was canonized. Then again, the rate they’ve been going lately, maybe its possible.

Fascinating question!!!
It is possible, but the JP2 pattern of canonization within a decade is extremely rare; centuries is far more likely.

Add to that that organ donation has only existed for about fifty years, and that diseases requiring organ transplantation often lead to early death in any case, and this situation may not occur for a long time.

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It’s never happened, because canonization normally takes generations.

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Exactly canonizations usually take a Long time. Also if you want to add to that the fact that the vast majority of saints - and by far - have either violent deaths, are extremely sick at the time of death, have weaken immune systems and bodies due to poor diets and physical sacrifices they make to sttenght their spirituality, or lived in contact/ took care of people with severe contagious diseases, the odds of a saint to be even “eligible” as an organ donor are close to 0.
 
Exactly canonizations usually take a Long time. Also if you want to add to that the fact that the vast majority of saints - and by far - have either violent deaths, are extremely sick at the time of death, have weaken immune systems and bodies due to poor diets and physical sacrifices they make to sttenght their spirituality, or lived in contact/ took care of people with severe contagious diseases, the odds of a saint to be even “eligible” as an organ donor are close to 0.
On the other hand, **everybody **either dies violently or is “extremely ill at the time of death.” That’s the nature of death: body is too weakened or damaged to breathe, or hold life, anymore.

And violent death is the ideal case for organ donation, where the head stops working but the organs remain alive.

So the scenario is possible, just very unlikely.

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On the other hand, **everybody **either dies violently or is “extremely ill at the time of death.” That’s the nature of death: body is too weakened or damaged to breathe, or hold life, anymore.

And violent death is the ideal case for organ donation, where the head stops working but the organs remain alive.

So the scenario is possible, just very unlikely.

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I don’t think you are getting what I meant. Yes everybody is ill at the time of death and people who die violently are perfect for organ donation but the circumstances in which saints die violently are very different and the kind of life that most saints live are very different to most people, and those different circumstances is what makes it unlikely. For example, taking modern saints, Padre Pio used to eat basically nothing and he barely drank water. If I remember correctly his diet was bread and potatos about three times a week. That was it. How many non saints who are terminally ill spent their lives on a life of bread twice a week? Barely anyone. Because of his extreme diet Padre Pio’s organ at death would have been much more deteriorated than a regular person. So despite the fact that a regular person is also gravely ill at the time of death, the condition of Padre Pio’s entire body - barely any nutrients, not enough hydration, extremely low immune system, heavy anemia, etc. - would make him unsuitable for donation, while a regular person maybe due to an illness has x organs unsuitable, others are suitable. No doctor would use padre pio’s liver for donation because basically it would give you a highly dehidrated liver that for about 30 years has only processed bread and potato’s. Also keep in mind that most saints - again by far - die from severe infectious diseases which would render them unsuitable immediately for donations.

Saints who die violently in the catholic church die as martyrs. While a person who died in a car crash would be perfect for donation because some organs are perfect, a martyr given his death circumstances is not going to be taken to donate. I can assure you that none of the catholics being murdered right now in Syria are being taken to hospitals to donate. Due to the circumstances of their death - martyrdom - a saint martyr won’t be used for organ donation.

Another example of circumstances, take mother Theresa. No doctor in the right mind wouldtake any organ from mother Theresa for donation because she spent her entire life picking up people with severe contagious diseases, kissing them, and near to them. On top of that mother Theresa also had a poor diet. Choosing her as an organ donor would be too risky so she wouldnt be eligible. And the same goes for the vast majority of people. Regular lay people’s life circumstances differ a lot from most saints in the sense that…despite being also I’ll at time of death…they haven’t been exposed to what most saints have been exposed or they haven’t subject their bodies to harsh conditions as most saints do, that is what makes the difference between a normal lay people been able to donate and why it would be unlikely for a saint to qualify as a donor.
 
What if a saint had donated blood at some point in their lives? Would the recipients of that saintly blood be walking reliquaries (without knowing it of course, the way donated blood is processed). Such speculation inevitably leads me to 1 Cor. 6: 19-20: “Do you not know your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God?” We are all reliquaries in that sense.
 
What if a saint had donated blood at some point in their lives? Would the recipients of that saintly blood be walking reliquaries (without knowing it of course, the way donated blood is processed). Such speculation inevitably leads me to 1 Cor. 6: 19-20: “Do you not know your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God?” We are all reliquaries in that sense.
Not an issue.

The person is not a saint when blood is donated, obviously, because alive.

And blood cells will normally die long before the body into which they are injected. None would remain by the time their former owner was canonized.

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I was reading that it only takes about 4 months for all red blood cells in the body to be replaced and just over a year for all white blood cells to be replaced.
 
Such speculation inevitably leads me to 1 Cor. 6: 19-20: “Do you not know your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God?” We are all reliquaries in that sense.
I like the way you think.
 
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