Saints Visions

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I need some help understanding this. During Bible study today, our teacher mentioned something about how Saints who’ve had visions of Jesus saw Him with puncture wounds left from His crucifixion. This made me think of various descriptions visionaries have used to describe the physical characteristics of Jesus and Mary.
Why the differences? Some say He’s dark haired, some have said He’s fair haired. Brown eyes, blue eyes?
 
I need some help understanding this. During Bible study today, our teacher mentioned something about how Saints who’ve had visions of Jesus saw Him with puncture wounds left from His crucifixion. This made me think of various descriptions visionaries have used to describe the physical characteristics of Jesus and Mary.
Why the differences? Some say He’s dark haired, some have said He’s fair haired. Brown eyes, blue eyes?
You’ve honestly left me confused on this one. I don’t know what to say.
 
When Our Lady appeared to St.Juan Diego, she appeared as an Aztec. Remember that visions are not the literal physical presence of the person but a more spiritual presence. Being therefore being as St.Paul said all things to all people I imagine they frequently appear as the same race as, or with familiar characteristics to, the person they appear to.
 
I need some help understanding this. During Bible study today, our teacher mentioned something about how Saints who’ve had visions of Jesus saw Him with puncture wounds left from His crucifixion. This made me think of various descriptions visionaries have used to describe the physical characteristics of Jesus and Mary.
Why the differences? Some say He’s dark haired, some have said He’s fair haired. Brown eyes, blue eyes?
I think God condescends to our weaknesses and biases. We all perceive the world and even have an image of God which is modified by our cultural background.

I’ve often mentioned the night my father died, he appeared in my room. I won’t go too much into the details at this point, but when he first materialised, he did so near the bedroom door.

Now there’s no reason for a “spirit” to materialise near a door, since it can do so anywhere. He could have used the ceiling for all the difference it would have made to him. But his appearing in my room the way he did was a fairly stressful incident for me, and totally unexpected.

I didn’t think about it at the time, but later I realsed the fact he materialised near the door in particular was a bit of psychological protection for me. When someone comes into a room, we expect them to do so via the door. So to make the thing just that little bit less nerve wracking, he (or God made him) materialsed near the door.

Even when Christ appeared to Mary at the tomb, the two on the way to Emmaus, the other apostles, they were always either given some form of warning or psychological protection (eg. the angels in the tomb, Christ appearing as a gardener in a garden for Mary, walking and talking with the two disciples on the way to Emmaus, ensuring there were a number of disciples together in the room, catching them in a group at their old trade of fishing. At no time did He suddenly appear and go “Boo! Ha! Gotcha!”. He considered their frame of mind.

So when he appears to the saints in visions - He’s going to take into account their prior perceptions and cultural biases.

That’s how I see it.
 
We are not required to believe in anyone’s private revelations or visions. I recommend reading Fr. Groeschel’s book “A Still, Small Voice” which treats this subject in depth. Saints can have visions which are products of a vivid, pious imagination, yet they still can be very holy people.
 
We are not required to believe in anyone’s private revelations or visions. I recommend reading Fr. Groeschel’s book “A Still, Small Voice” which treats this subject in depth. Saints can have visions which are products of a vivid, pious imagination, yet they still can be very holy people.
Oh, okay. I wasn’t sure if we were required to believe in their visions or not. Thanks.
 
I thought there was another thread about this going at one time, but I can’t find it. Does anyone know the title of the thread or could link me to it?
 
This is a very good question that the OP has. Why did the Blessed Mother appear to Juan Diego differently than at La Salette, France? It has to do with the nature of private revelations and discernment of scriptures. Below is a link to an E-Book by Father Jordan Aumann. It is very good reading. One may download the zip file to a folder and upzip the chapters to read off line. One can also import into MS Word or Word Pefect the files. I uploaded the Chapter on Discenment that helps one to understand the OP’s Question. This is a very good read. And this priest is a Roman Catholic just as Fr. Dominic Szymansk who wrote The Truth About the Devil.

["]Spiritual Theology ]("Jordan Aumann, O.P.: Spiritual Theology[I)by Father Jordan Aumann

JORDAN AUMANN, O.P. is a native of the United States and Director of the Institute of Spirituality at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas in Rome. He is also a Consultor for the Sacred Congregation for the Clergy and Catechetics and likewise a Consultor for the Sacred Congregation for Evangelization. Since 1977 he has been giving special courses in spirituality at the Faculty of Theology of the University of Santo Tomas, Manila, where he is an honorary professor. He has likewise travelled extensively throughout the Philippines to give retreats to the clergy, and retreats and special series of lectures to religious and seminarians. Father Aumann has also written the book History of Spirituality published in the Philippines by St. Paul Publications.

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Hi BluesPicker,
I am unable to find the file at the link you provided, I have tried several times, no success. Could be the page was modified, or I don’t know. It opnes to a Dominican page but no this particular file anywhere. I need to request you to kindly check the webpage again if it is still there, because I really need to read this book. “Spiritual Theology by Father Jordan Aumann”
Thank you all for your very enlightening posts.
 
Hi BluesPicker,
I am unable to find the file at the link you provided, I have tried several times, no success. Could be the page was modified, or I don’t know. It opnes to a Dominican page but no this particular file anywhere. I need to request you to kindly check the webpage again if it is still there, because I really need to read this book. "Spiritual Theology
by Father Jordan Aumann"
Thank you all for your very enlightening posts.

Imma, you can read it here:

archive.org/stream/SpiritualTheologyByFr.JordanAumannO.p/AumannO.p.SpiritualTheologyall_djvu.txt
 
Thank you so much FCEGM, I am now reading it thankfully. I am just getting interested in Spiritual theology, I am not sure what I am going to discover. So I am eager to get into it. God bless.
 
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