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Will_Pick
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Can the Catholic Church make Ruth Gram wife of Billy a saint ?
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andzy
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Well, actually the Church doesn’t make anybody a saint. It’s God who does it.
But no, I am pretty sure that the Catholic Church cannot pronounce a non-Catholic as a saint. A saint must be fully united with the Christ’s instituted Church, which is not so in this case.
(This is not to say at all that Mrs. Gram isn’t going to make it to heaven.)
But no, I am pretty sure that the Catholic Church cannot pronounce a non-Catholic as a saint. A saint must be fully united with the Christ’s instituted Church, which is not so in this case.
(This is not to say at all that Mrs. Gram isn’t going to make it to heaven.)
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Woodstock
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Not only must the person be fully united to the Church, he or she is canonized by the particular ritual Church she or he belonged to. That means that Rome doesn’t even canonize Byzantine Catholics who are fully united with them. The Byzantine Catholic Church would do so in such a situation.
However, there are a few who have been canonized by the Orthodox after the schism who are on the festal calendars of some of the Catholic Churches.
As the previous person said, Rome would not pronounce a non-Catholic as being a saint, no matter how holy. We ask God to have mercy on her and to accept her into His kingdom, just as we do with the overwhelming majority of holy and pious men and women of all faiths who pass away, including our own.
However, there are a few who have been canonized by the Orthodox after the schism who are on the festal calendars of some of the Catholic Churches.
As the previous person said, Rome would not pronounce a non-Catholic as being a saint, no matter how holy. We ask God to have mercy on her and to accept her into His kingdom, just as we do with the overwhelming majority of holy and pious men and women of all faiths who pass away, including our own.
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Hellisreal
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WOW. I never knew that!Not only must the person be fully united to the Church, he or she is canonized by the particular ritual Church she or he belonged to. That means that **Rome doesn’t even canonize Byzantine ****Catholics **who are fully united with them. The Byzantine Catholic Church would do so in such a situation.
However, there are a few who have been canonized by the Orthodox after the schism who are on the festal calendars of some of the Catholic Churches.
As the previous person said, Rome would not pronounce a non-Catholic as being a saint, no matter how holy. We ask God to have mercy on her and to accept her into His kingdom, just as we do with the overwhelming majority of holy and pious men and women of all faiths who pass away, including our own.
I better ask Gregory P about this one! I was seeking out the Byzantine rite…
Not that I dont take your word Woodstock, I really just need some citations to get my head together on this one!
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Joe_Monahan
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Woodstock,Not only must the person be fully united to the Church, he or she is canonized by the particular ritual Church she or he belonged to. That means that Rome doesn’t even canonize Byzantine Catholics who are fully united with them. The Byzantine Catholic Church would do so in such a situation.
That statement is absolutely inaccurate. Note that the beatifications of Blessed Exarch Leonid Feodorov and Blessed Archimandrite & Exarch Kliment Sheptitsky (Russian Greek-Catholics), Blessed Bishops Nicholas Charnetsky and Basil Velychkovsky (Ukrainian Greek-Catholics), Blessed Bishop Theodore Romzha (Ruthenian Greek-Catholic), Blessed Bishop Ignatios Maloyan (Armenian Catholic), and Blessed Sister Alphonsa of the Immaculate Conception (Syro-Malabarese Catholic) - soon to become the first canonized Saint of her Church, Saint Charbel (Maronite Catholic), and the list goes on, all were declared by Rome.
I assure you that all of these and many, many hundreds more martyred in odium fidei would have been declared saints by now were the authority to do so resident in their own Churches - to say nothing of the many not yet even declared Servants of God - Metropolitan Andrei Sheptitsky of the Ukrainians, Exarch Shio Batmalashvili of the Georgians, and Father Walter Ciszek of the Russians to name but a few.
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