Salary of married priests (protestant converts)

[notredame_999]

I dont know if this is public record, but how much does a diocesan priest make? What about married priests who are converts from protestants? Just wondering, and by the way this question is not about celibacy (I have been warned to make no more posts about celibacy).

 

[laszlo]

I dont know if this is public record, but how much does a diocesan priest make? What about married priests who are converts from protestants? Just wondering, and by the way this question is not about celibacy (I have been warned to make no more posts about celibacy).

About ten years ago a diocesan priest whom I knew, received 25,000 in a year, plus room, board and office expenses. The diocese pays every priests, with some reward for the years served, probably pastors get more than assistant pastors.

Here is the Anglican (not Catholic) stipend list (this comes after housing and office expenses)

Curates: £14,680-£15,820
Parish clergy: £16,420
Cathedral-based canons: £20,200
Junior bishops: £24,790
Diocesan bishops: £30,120
Archbishop of Canterbury: £55,660

 

[jj_nycguy]

I dont know if this is public record, but how much does a diocesan priest make? What about married priests who are converts from protestants? Just wondering, and by the way this question is not about celibacy (I have been warned to make no more posts about celibacy).

I remember reading something that stated that they earn between $30-45k.

 

[beth40n2]

In small rural areas Diocean priests make about $25,000 plus housing, health insurance, phone, tv, utilites, mileage between parishes as most priest have 2-3 parishes.

 

[agent_grey]

God feeds. God gives shelter. God clothes. God teaches.

 

[HAnne]

In small rural areas Diocean priests make about $25,000 plus housing, health insurance, phone, tv, utilites, mileage between parishes as most priest have 2-3 parishes.

I can confirm this to be true for our parish. Our rural priest serves 3 parishes in 25 miles and he very humbly answered this question for me last week because the nosy convert just wanted to know.

 

[ConstantineTG]

Our parish pastor made like 28K CAD the previous year.

Depends really on what they do. A parish pastor would get the benefits mentioned above, which is free board and lodging in the parish which includes utilities. He may be able to reimburse fuel expenses if its parish or diocese business. They get stipends for Mass in another parish. They may also get additional pay if they perform another function in the diocese, like in the diocesan office.

One thing I heard, they’re not going to get paid as much as they did when they were a protestant minister.

 

[notredame_999]

I can confirm this to be true for our parish. Our rural priest serves 3 parishes in 25 miles and he very humbly answered this question for me last week because the nosy convert just wanted to know.

Well I’ll be honest. I asked this question because I am trying to understand mandatory clerical celibacy. It makes sense that the church wishes to maintain this out of financial reasons, in addition to other reasons, so I was curious how much more the church pays to married priests with children compared to celibate ones.

 

[hxcCatholic413]

I dont know if this is public record, but how much does a diocesan priest make? What about married priests who are converts from protestants? Just wondering, and by the way this question is not about celibacy (I have been warned to make no more posts about celibacy).

my pastor made 26k this year and my associate pastor made 24k

 

[ConstantineTG]

Well I’ll be honest. I asked this question because I am trying to understand mandatory clerical celibacy. It makes sense that the church wishes to maintain this out of financial reasons, in addition to other reasons, so I was curious how much more the church pays to married priests with children compared to celibate ones.

The mandatory celibacy has been around even before we’ve had the current economic situations. I’m sure priests would have had an easy time feeding a family in the Middle Ages.

 

[PaulinVA]

To answer the question of how much more it would cost to have married priests, you have to look at total compensation - that is salary plus benefits.

Most Catholic churches have a rectory with “apartments” for the priests, right? They would have to still be maintained, and a couples of houses bought. How many bedrooms, etc, is a whole other topic.

If the mortgage is paid for by the parish, then there is more for benefits (health insurance, etc) and such. Still need to maintain the rectory for the single priests.

If you at least compensated the priests at the median income for your area, that could be a lot. It’s six figures in my county. Not that I would begrudge them the money, it just totally turns the priesthood into something it isn’t right now.

I think it would be a logistical mess, not to mention dealing with wives and PKs (Pastors Kids).

There are so many non-starter issues here, and you haven’t even gotten to the whole celibacy discipline.

 

[laszlo]

To answer the question of how much more it would cost to have married priests, you have to look at total compensation - that is salary plus benefits.

Only 26% of the US is Catholic population, the rest is protestant with married ministers, and as median with much smaller congregations that the Catholic parishes. If they can care about their ministers with families including housing, insurance, education of the children, then the Catholic should be able to do so too.

The celibacy of the priests is not financial issue.

 

[Phemie]

Our parish pastor made like 28K CAD the previous year.

Depends really on what they do. A parish pastor would get the benefits mentioned above, which is free board and lodging in the parish which includes utilities. He may be able to reimburse fuel expenses if its parish or diocese business. They get stipends for Mass in another parish. They may also get additional pay if they perform another function in the diocese, like in the diocesan office.

One thing I heard, they’re not going to get paid as much as they did when they were a protestant minister.

One thing to remember is that priests pay income tax (unless they’ve religious who have taken a vow of poverty) and benefits such as room and board and utilities, car allowance, insurance, etc are considered taxable income.

 

[PaulinVA]

Only 26% of the US is Catholic population, the rest is protestant with married ministers, and as median with much smaller congregations that the Catholic parishes.** If they can care about their ministers with families including housing, insurance, education of the children, then the Catholic should be able to do so too**.

The celibacy of the priests is not financial issue.

It’s not about caring. Of course we care about our priests.

Quite frankly, the monetary issue is big, indeed. But the divorce issue is bigger, as is the dealing with the PKs.

We have a priesthood set apart from the people, whether that’s good or bad. To have the priests be just the same as the rest of us, with a wife and kids, changes the whole dynamic of the Church. It concludes the protestantization of the Catholic Church.

We can afford the salary. We can’t afford the consequences.

 

[laszlo]

Quite frankly, the monetary issue is big, indeed. But the divorce issue is bigger, as is the dealing with the PKs.

We can afford the salary. We can’t afford the consequences.

The formation for the married Eastern Catholics in Hungary follows as this:

• they finish their theological education and formation in the seminary
• they receive one year sabbatical to marry, those who want marry, those who want not
• they are ordained to priests. Only those can be later bishops, who are celibate. No more marriage. Divorce impossible, in case of separation or widowing the priest should remain celibate.

Leaving the service is significantly lower that for the celibate Roman rite priests., the number of vocations higher In Hungary there are about 200 Greek Catholic parish, and about 250 priests. In comparison in the Roman rite many priest servers three parishes

Here is the Greek Catholic website, unfortunately Hungarian only

gorogkatolikus.hu/

As for the Priest Kids, there are priestly dynasties. What is wrong with that?