Salvation is from the Jews

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I know that God was first introduced to the Jewish people and they are still the chosen people.But Christians are saved by believe in Christ.what is meant by salvation is from the Jews?Is it because Jesus was Jewish and therefore saved by Jews?
 
Good questions. This phrase is almost trite. I will give a guess.

This phrase represents the history between God and the jewish people till the time of Christ. This developing story was the story of the Jewish people. In this light, salvation, or Jesus Christ, came from the Jewish story. Hence, salvation is from the jews.

Today is a different story. I am not sure how God will decide in particular judgment with a devout jew. However, most I know are not practicing their faith in any way more than superficial. Given that Jesus came and paid the ultimate price for our salvation, I have to say a secular jew today may not get a pass to heaven.

In the same vein, a catholic that does not follow the faith completely will be in the same boat. An example is going to church on sunday and contracepting all 7 days. Another case is voting for a pro-abortion political candidate when a viable alternative is on the ballot. This is grave matter.
 
Because the Jews are Gods chosen people!

…as an aside Ann Coulter once referred to Christians as ‘perfected Jews’. I always liked the sound of that.
 
So, in…
[bibledrb]Romans 11:26-29[/bibledrb]
Who does Israel refer to? Spiritual Israel? (Christians) Israel before Christ’s time? Israel in the present day? Jews?

This passage has always kinda confused me…:confused:
 
I know that God was first introduced to the Jewish people **and they are still the chosen people.**But Christians are saved by believe in Christ.what is meant by salvation is from the Jews?Is it because Jesus was Jewish and therefore saved by Jews?
I have three comments on that. One, the Roman Catholic Church pre vatican ii taught that through Jesus Christ there was salvation for both Jew and Gentile as neither existed any longer. Two, the Roman Catholic Church post vatican ii teaches that the Jews are still under the divine plan by their Jehovah. Three, I too believe that the Jews have a special place in God’s plans and I wish them the best of luck.:o
 
Salvation is from the Jews… Yes, Christ was a jew. And whenever I think of Christ, his mother is always nearby. 🙂

The Blessed Virgin is also a Jew and She gave birth to Christ’s body which is the Church.

When I think if Mary, I think of the Mother of Christ’s body, the Church. The Holy Catholic Church, as the ordinary means of obtaining grace through the sacraments, is God’s instrument of salvation in the world. Mary is mother of the Church because she is mother of Christ, whose body is the Church, through which we obtain salvation.

There are many other levels I’m sure… the history of covenants with the Jews is one. God called Israel “My son”… singular, indicating that Israel was one son to God, and this has very deep implicatoins for today’s Church, the new Israel, the new Jerusalem. Mt. Zion, a city on a hill, etc.

But when I read that salvation is from the Jews, I think of Mary. 👍

-Tim-
 
Nice replies - I think its a bit of all of this. Jesus (Yeshua) was foretold through the Hebrew scriptures which were preserved by Israel (Jews today are 2 of the 12 tribes of “Israel”). Jesus was Jewish as were all the apostles and every author of every book of scripture (old and New Testaments) except for Luke (thus Luke and Acts). And so, Israel played a critical role as God’s chosen people in bringing the world to the point of being able to recognize Christ.

While Israel, in large part, has not recognized Christ (as part of God’s plan as Isaiah said God would cause Israel to have eyes but not see and ears but not hear), the calling to Israel remains irrevocable and God is still using Israel (mostly unbelieving today) for His greater purpose.

Romans tells us that “after the full allotment of Gentiles comes in, all Israel will be saved” and scripture tells us that in the end time, the “leadership of Israel” will mourn for the one whom they have pierced and call on the name of the Lord. In that marvelous day, the Chuch fathers recognized that Jewish believers would encourage Gentile believers who have grown cold back to God.

So - those who were first (Jews - to get God’s law), will be “last” (but not never) (as Jesus said), and in God’s perfect plan of salvation, Israel will have prepared the world for the gospel and in the end times, play a role in bringing lost sheep back into the fold.

Its a great and marvelous mystery - one we can’t fully understand.

Let us revel in God’s glory and thank God that we are all, Jew and Gentile, ultimately one (echad) in Christ.

Blessings,

Brian
 
I know that God was first introduced to the Jewish people and they are still the chosen people.But Christians are saved by believe in Christ.what is meant by salvation is from the Jews?Is it because Jesus was Jewish and therefore saved by Jews?
No, it is because Jesus said it is so. Jesus said “Salvation is from the Jews”.
 
Gods’ revelation of Himself and His will for man began and was completed, for the purpose of salvation, through the Jewish people.
 
Throughout Scripture, the promised Jewish Messiah (Mashiakh) was prophesied to be an anointed triune: Prophet, Priest & King in one perfect man (we see this perfected in the Trinity: Father, Son, Holy Spirit). Jesus fulfilled this as a Jew – and indeed as the perfect, spotless, divine Almighty God Himself in human form, so there could be no mistake as to who this Messiah is!

Jesus’ proclamation that Salvation comes from the Jews is kind of a self-referencing play on words, actually. Jesus is a Greek form of the word Yehoshua or Yeshua, which means “God’s Salvation” and was meant to show (for all time) from whence God’s Salvation would come…not from the nations (pagans, Greeks, Romans, Persians, etc.) but from the Jewish people – and (inferred from the word play) ultimately from Jesus himself!

In reference to another post: Indeed, those who call themselves “Jews” but do not adhere to God’s Law to perfection (highly improbable: “Lest you have the righteousness of the Pharisees, you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven…”) or have not accepted Jesus (Yeshua) as savior are doomed. It is for salvation “of the Jews first” (see St. Paul’s epistle to the Romans) that Jesus Christ came and offered himself as the perfect atonement for sins according to God’s Perfect Law. In a similar vein, those who call themselves by Christ’s name – “Christians” – but do not follow Christ’s commandments are in the same boat as these unbelieving Jews. We see this played out in Jesus’ discussion of the final judgment (Matt. 7:21-24). To be Catholic or “Christian” (in its ultimate form) is to model Christ, obeying Him in thought, word, and deed.
 
This phrase is almost trite.
Ouch. Can scripture ever be trite?

Let’s look at the verse…

John 4:22 You adore that which you know not: we adore that which we know; for salvation is of the Jews.

Jesus (in John 4) is talking to a Samaritan woman. The Samaritans, Jesus said, were worshipping someone (God) who they did not know. Paul echoes this later in Acts 17 when he tells the Athenians they worship a God they do not know. The fullness of knowledge of God comes through the Jews, and the Messiah comes from the Jews, through the line of Judah and David.
 
I know that God was first introduced to the Jewish people and they are still the chosen people.But Christians are saved by believe in Christ.what is meant by salvation is from the Jews?Is it because Jesus was Jewish and therefore saved by Jews?
Oh Yes you are very right! when, at the mount of the tranfiguraion there where elijah moses james peter and john. Jesus was tranfigured in their midists. A clould of the presecence came over them to unite them in both the old and the new. moses is the law from which Jesus was born via the establishment of the jewish nation via the exodus. Elijah was a representative of john the baptist who united the fathers with the sons and the children with the fathers . just as elijah , on mount cormel united the people back to the living God.So, both the new and the old are brought toether in Christ. Jesus was born of the jews therfore him being salvation was born of the jews. THE KING OF THE JEWS
 
hi all: this a beautful thread dear my hear and i,m glad to participate. Ray
 
Ouch. Can scripture ever be trite?

Let’s look at the verse…

John 4:22 You adore that which you know not: we adore that which we know; for salvation is of the Jews.

Jesus (in John 4) is talking to a Samaritan woman. The Samaritans, Jesus said, were worshipping someone (God) who they did not know. Paul echoes this later in Acts 17 when he tells the Athenians they worship a God they do not know. The fullness of knowledge of God comes through the Jews, and the Messiah comes from the Jews, through the line of Judah and David.
and then HE says if you knew the Gift and He who was speaking to you you would perhaps ask him for liviing water . Oh, she was so hard at heart. And what was said nexr?
 
Throughout Scripture, the promised Jewish Messiah (Mashiakh) was prophesied to be an anointed triune: Prophet, Priest & King in one perfect man (we see this perfected in the Trinity: Father, Son, Holy Spirit). Jesus fulfilled this as a Jew – and indeed as the perfect, spotless, divine Almighty God Himself in human form, so there could be no mistake as to who this Messiah is!

Jesus’ proclamation that Salvation comes from the Jews is kind of a self-referencing play on words, actually. Jesus is a Greek form of the word Yehoshua or Yeshua, which means “God’s Salvation” and was meant to show (for all time) from whence God’s Salvation would come…not from the nations (pagans, Greeks, Romans, Persians, etc.) but from the Jewish people – and (inferred from the word play) ultimately from Jesus himself!

In reference to another post: Indeed, those who call themselves “Jews” but do not adhere to God’s Law to perfection (highly improbable: “Lest you have the righteousness of the Pharisees, you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven…”) or have not accepted Jesus (Yeshua) as savior are doomed. It is for salvation “of the Jews first” (see St. Paul’s epistle to the Romans) that Jesus Christ came and offered himself as the perfect atonement for sins according to God’s Perfect Law. In a similar vein, those who call themselves by Christ’s name – “Christians” – but do not follow Christ’s commandments are in the same boat as these unbelieving Jews. We see this played out in Jesus’ discussion of the final judgment (Matt. 7:21-24). To be Catholic or “Christian” (in its ultimate form) is to model Christ, obeying Him in thought, word, and deed.
This is Goodness: Unless you are born from above you cannot “see” the kingdom of God. Unless you are born of the Spirit you cannot enter this Kingdom. See and Enter. We are born of the Spirit we can see and enter
 
Hi all: Salvation. Mary was without sin yet She calls God Her Savior. She was Highly favoured. Salvation then means that He see us from our very beginning, what we wher meant ‘to be’. God grant us the love to become what we where meant ‘to be’. grant me my prayer’.psalm 66
 
salvation being christ indeed it is from the jews
everything that i have said here i did not learn from theology but from the litury of the mass and the prayer of the church. they come to me rather happazzard but i know that the holy spirit of the unity gives me the correct interpretation, I know that what i say to you is the truth. HE taught me. SHe taught me. ray:)
 
I love the Lord (My Soul) All my Being Bless His Holy Name.
Glory in His unity of His Self-Knowlege in which we are invited. ray:)
 
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